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Scuba

(53,475 posts)
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 08:17 AM Sep 2014

Rick Perry's College Transcript: A Lot Of Cs And Ds

Another boy genius from Texas. Not news, but worth reposting ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/05/rick-perry-college-transcript_n_919357.html

One reason that might explain his hostility toward the system: He didn't do very well in it. A source in Texas passed The Huffington Post Perry's transcripts from his years at Texas A&M University. The future politician did not distinguish himself much in the classroom. While he later became a student leader, he had to get out of academic probation to do so. He rarely earned anything above a C in his courses -- earning a C in U.S. History, a D in Shakespeare, and a D in the principles of economics. Perry got a C in gym.

Perry also did poorly on classes within his animal science major. In fall semester 1970, he received a D in veterinary anatomy, a F in a second course on organic chemistry and a C in animal breeding. He did get an A in world military systems and “Improv. of Learning” -- his only two As while at A&M.

"A&M wasn't exactly Harvard on the Brazos River," recalled a Perry classmate in an interview with The Huffington Post. "This was not the brightest guy around. We always kind of laughed. He was always kind of a joke."

A spokesperson for the governor recently told the Texas Tribune that the university "helped shape who he is today." The governor’s office did not return a request for comment from The Huffington Post.



[link:http://www.scribd.com/doc/61684192/Rick-Perry-s-Texas-A-M-Transcript|Rick Perry's Texas A&M Transcript
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Rick Perry's College Transcript: A Lot Of Cs And Ds (Original Post) Scuba Sep 2014 OP
Nobody ever said "Governor Goodhair" was a genius. Laelth Sep 2014 #1
Rick Perry got a "D" in Economics. JEFF9K Sep 2014 #2
Hey! Cut him some slack! Organic chem is tough stuff!! Bwahaha. n/t elias49 Sep 2014 #3
How do you get a D in OC 1 and be allowed to take OC2? Lochloosa Sep 2014 #6
How do you get a D in trig central scrutinizer Sep 2014 #45
A C in Civics and a D in Economics. JaneyVee Sep 2014 #4
D in principles of Economics? Therefore he's a BRILLIANT economist Thav Sep 2014 #21
Required Phy. Ed.? What is this High School? Lochloosa Sep 2014 #5
I was an undergrad at around the same time - we had a 4-course PE requirement DrDan Sep 2014 #7
those requirements were still going strong in the 80's when I went to college dsc Sep 2014 #12
I needed 4 PE credits @ my state university in the 80s. CottonBear Sep 2014 #17
A one semester half-credit PE course is required of undergraduates in most schools I know of. eom TransitJohn Sep 2014 #25
an A in world military systems IDemo Sep 2014 #8
Looks like it's a 2 hour credit course. Ilsa Sep 2014 #15
A ROTC course? n/t sarge43 Sep 2014 #41
Then he got a C in it the very next semester. TeamPooka Sep 2014 #48
"He was always kind of a joke." Chemisse Sep 2014 #9
His best grades were in phys ed and World Military Systems. Should we be surprised? Triana Sep 2014 #10
Well he still hasn't mastered US history. Historic NY Sep 2014 #11
"Oops." spooky3 Sep 2014 #13
I'd like a gander at his military records sarge43 Sep 2014 #14
I wonder what the rest of it looks like. This appears Ilsa Sep 2014 #16
It would take the knowledge of Chem I to be able to pass Chem II. Chem II passing grade would DhhD Sep 2014 #20
Got a "B" in Soil Science. So he started off good at manure... JHB Sep 2014 #18
and dirt digging and mud slinging! Blue Owl Sep 2014 #55
There's a shocker. TBF Sep 2014 #19
I listened to him speak the other day on CSPAN....... marmar Sep 2014 #22
Compare the leaking of this transcript and the celebrity nude leak. AngryAmish Sep 2014 #23
Good point. Dr. Strange Sep 2014 #50
Leaked to writer of the article. AngryAmish Sep 2014 #51
I greatly object to this post! vlyons Sep 2014 #24
Noted. But since he's running for President, everything is fair game. Scuba Sep 2014 #27
And as a Presidential candidate ... aggiesal Sep 2014 #37
If he has dyslexia, he wouldn't have been an Air Force pilot. sarge43 Sep 2014 #32
Aren't we allowed to have academic standards for the president of the United States? MoonchildCA Sep 2014 #36
Grow up? SHAME ON YOU! TeamPooka Sep 2014 #49
His mediocre scholastic record will benefit him ladjf Sep 2014 #26
I'm not surprised calldonna2 Sep 2014 #28
Almost all (if not all) of the people in my HS who went to college did so just out of HS karynnj Sep 2014 #33
He got a D in Econ and a B in Rhetoric Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #29
Texas is whored out to corporations, CEOs don't enjoy Perry for his intellect. whereisjustice Sep 2014 #30
I would've thought he would EXCEL at animal breeding....... lastlib Sep 2014 #31
World military systems......his only "A"? Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #34
Knows nothing about American History, yet he was elected to govern Texas SummerSnow Sep 2014 #35
The son of bitch stole my college transcript Botany Sep 2014 #38
How many classes do they have there on World Military Systems? treestar Sep 2014 #39
Big deal. bigwillq Sep 2014 #40
We already do Botany Sep 2014 #43
Great! bigwillq Sep 2014 #44
I'm sure Pasadena Clown College is very proud of you. Dr. Strange Sep 2014 #56
Military = A Economics = D Ruby the Liberal Sep 2014 #42
Most Texas Democrats would love to see Perry be the 2016 nominee Gothmog Sep 2014 #46
... napkinz Sep 2014 #47
Sadly for some, ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #52
His college days was probably to avoid the draft. Guess it worked for him Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #53
That's only a partial transcript. Maybe he had an epiphany at the end of sophomore year? Shrike47 Sep 2014 #54
People who say this is not fair NJCher Sep 2014 #57
To be fair, Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #58

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
1. Nobody ever said "Governor Goodhair" was a genius.
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 08:22 AM
Sep 2014

And if they did, they were being sarcastic.



-Laelth

JEFF9K

(1,935 posts)
2. Rick Perry got a "D" in Economics.
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 08:25 AM
Sep 2014

That puts him among THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST in the Republican Party.

Thav

(946 posts)
21. D in principles of Economics? Therefore he's a BRILLIANT economist
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 10:21 AM
Sep 2014

according to republicans at least. That's, like, way more better than a Nobel Prize and stuff.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
7. I was an undergrad at around the same time - we had a 4-course PE requirement
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 09:00 AM
Sep 2014

tennis, golf, I don't remember the other 2 I took.

That is not a bad requirement for a BS. Should be a requirement in elementary/middle schools today - but sadly is not.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
12. those requirements were still going strong in the 80's when I went to college
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 09:42 AM
Sep 2014

One reason I chose the place I went Knox, over John Carroll was that Knox had no PE requirement while John Carroll required two courses.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
17. I needed 4 PE credits @ my state university in the 80s.
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 10:10 AM
Sep 2014

I took fencing (really fun & intellectual) and swimming. Then, needing 2 more credits, I signed up for a 2 credit class called "weight training for fitness

Holy moley! I had NO idea what I was in for! The class kicked my butt! It was taught by the strength coach for our SEC championship Division 1 football team. There were about 30 guys & 5 women.

Coach: "Now get over here and lift those weights! What are you? A bunch of grandmothers? GO!"

It was free weights, running laps and diamond push ups. On the last day of class I did 750 diamond push ups! I could dead lift 125 lbs and bench press 95 lbs.

It was an awesome experience. The gym was an unairconditioned 1940s era model. Nowadays, the students have a world class athletic center.

I was in great shape at the end of the 8 week summer quarter!

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
15. Looks like it's a 2 hour credit course.
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 10:03 AM
Sep 2014

I'm guessing he had to take it while in the Corps of Cadets.

The other A was in a 1 hour credit course. Not impressive. I'm glad he passed his Maths, though.

Chemisse

(30,817 posts)
9. "He was always kind of a joke."
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 09:04 AM
Sep 2014

He still is.

I welcome him to the 2016 primary race. I hope it is as wildly entertaining as the last one.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
10. His best grades were in phys ed and World Military Systems. Should we be surprised?
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 09:23 AM
Sep 2014

Pfft. Otherwise, he sucked - mostly Cs and Ds. What a lazy dufus.

sarge43

(28,945 posts)
14. I'd like a gander at his military records
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 10:03 AM
Sep 2014

His 214 and his report cards, especially the write ups. There's a sub text to those that can be illuminating.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
16. I wonder what the rest of it looks like. This appears
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 10:05 AM
Sep 2014

To be his first two years and second semester of Summer classes.

Edited to correct error.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
20. It would take the knowledge of Chem I to be able to pass Chem II. Chem II passing grade would
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 10:18 AM
Sep 2014

establish credit for Chem I at grade of what a committee would determine by recommendation. He may have, 'skipped,' through college like this in other courses too.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
18. Got a "B" in Soil Science. So he started off good at manure...
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 10:10 AM
Sep 2014

...and has only marginally improved.

Oops!

marmar

(77,090 posts)
22. I listened to him speak the other day on CSPAN.......
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 10:23 AM
Sep 2014

....... He is dumber than a bag of hollow marbles. He can't even read off a script properly.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
23. Compare the leaking of this transcript and the celebrity nude leak.
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 10:23 AM
Sep 2014

In terms of federal and state law as well as normal expectations of privacy.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
24. I greatly object to this post!
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 10:25 AM
Sep 2014

Let me state outright that I'm not a fan of Perry. Never voted for the guy, and I live in TX.

Did it ever occur to you that Perry may have dislexia and/or other learning disabilities? That he stuck with getting a college degree and didn't quit speaks to his credit. Anyone who criticized him for his college record AND didn't earn their own college degree, well just shame on you!

We should be criticizing his political policies, not his long-ago college transcript. A) Who cares? and B) What business is it of yours and mine? Grow up!


aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
37. And as a Presidential candidate ...
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 11:22 AM
Sep 2014

we need to know that he has a 2.1 grade point average from A&M.

Didn't the republicans go after Obama's transcript at Harvard and
complained that he got preferential trestment?

sarge43

(28,945 posts)
32. If he has dyslexia, he wouldn't have been an Air Force pilot.
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 11:00 AM
Sep 2014

When anyone does something like this, they've forfeited any claim to fair play. Further, please don't run the "we should be better than that". We are better than that and we don't fold like origami to prove it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=439&topic_id=1823714

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
36. Aren't we allowed to have academic standards for the president of the United States?
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 11:14 AM
Sep 2014

Even people without college degrees are allowed to expect their leaders to be intelligent and well educated.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
26. His mediocre scholastic record will benefit him
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 10:29 AM
Sep 2014

politically with the Republicans. They admire such under achievement.

calldonna2

(4 posts)
28. I'm not surprised
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 10:33 AM
Sep 2014

If he started college in 1968, why didn't he go to Viet Nam first? He likes to get his picture taken with big guns. Why didn't he go to Viet Nam and use one? Another right wing chicken hawk and a dumb one at that!!

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
33. Almost all (if not all) of the people in my HS who went to college did so just out of HS
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 11:00 AM
Sep 2014

I started college in 1968. I was from a lower middle class town and slightly less than half of us went to college. There are so many things to criticize Perry on - starting with the fact that he is under indictment, this is not fair.

Not to mention, there are any number of Democrats, as well as Republicans, who did whatever it took to avoid serving in Vietnam. I started college the same year and by the time I graduated far fewer people were being drafted. In addition, many intentionally took jobs where deferments existed. ( Bell Labs, the research arm of AT&T, was able to get them for all hires)

As to the grades, they are horrible - even considering that there has been a HUGE amount of grade inflation in the times since then. Obviously learning and studying was not a priority. What is odd is that his are so low he had to be on the verge of failing out - something that male students than worried about because it could lead them to be drafted.

It was pretty clear in the 2012 debates that he really was not all that smart - even though he likely had memorized answers to generic questions that he could have applied to any question that was at all similar.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
34. World military systems......his only "A"?
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 11:05 AM
Sep 2014

"C" on American history. He repeated the course and got the same grade, I think.....maybe semester marks.

He repeated world military systems after getting a C the first time also I think....are these final grades?

Principles of economics - D.........

The man is an A+ dunce.

Botany

(70,581 posts)
38. The son of bitch stole my college transcript
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 11:25 AM
Sep 2014
Ohio University aka Harvard on the Hocking



BTW How do you get a D in Shakespeare?
 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
40. Big deal.
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 11:33 AM
Sep 2014

I got Cs (and an occasional D, too). I also failed a class in college.

Go ahead. Judge me.

Gothmog

(145,554 posts)
46. Most Texas Democrats would love to see Perry be the 2016 nominee
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 12:33 PM
Sep 2014

The indictment of Perry was not a partisan event. The Democrats had nothing to do with that indictment and most Texas Democrats want Perry to do well and be the GOP nominee. Oops would be fun to watch against any Democrat.

NJCher

(35,730 posts)
57. People who say this is not fair
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 10:08 PM
Sep 2014

Are we not entitled to the very best, in every aspect of human achievement? I want someone who is intelligent, can do well in the academic system (even though I personally had problems with it--not good at jumping through hoops here), is articulate, is presentable, has a sense of humor, is diplomatic, and way more than you'd even be interested in reading on this post.

We're talking about the leadership of this country--the top job in the U.S.!

We're entitled to excellence. We should not settle for less in any quarter.


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