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[PeaceNikki]

1. Sing it, sister.

[kcr]

2. I wish I had pictures of my younger self

Well said! Agree with all of it.

[jillan]

41. Agreed! Me too.

[kcr]

74. Do I even want to know what message deleted said

DU is a scary place especially right now.

[LeftyMom]

100. He's been posting and then deleting creepy shit all day. nt

[Demonaut]

3. I remember a few you posted here years ago...very beautiful

actually don't want to forget **************on edit you weren't nekkid, just tasteful

[La Lioness Priyanka]

9. yeah, i was wondering that.

[LeftyMom]

4. Me too.

I don't really give a shit who disapproves either. It's my body and I can share it or conceal it from anybody I damn well please.

[Veilex]

40. This^^^^

[TreasonousBastard]

5. I suspect most people agree with you, although...

there's always that loud, moralizing contingent taking up a lot of space.

The only moralizing I'm going into is that they are your pictures and stealing them is as wrong as it gets. If someone got to those pictures and posted them, they stole your property and invaded your privacy.

[1StrongBlackMan]

53. Actually, I think the OP goes well beyond ...

the stealing of her pictures, as an invasion of her privacy. The invasion comes in where the "moralizing contingent" (I like that descriptor) questions her taking/having pictures of herself.

And I completely agree with her ... she requires neither our blessing nor, owes an explanation for her having pictures of herself, taken for her purposes.

[MannyGoldstein]

6. That's great!

But hopefully people realize that there's a pretty good chance that unintended audiences will end up viewing anything stored electronically - the NSA, of course, but also random scoundrels.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

7. no, that's not exactly understandable

just like if you have a home and you use a moderate amount of security, you don't understand when someone deliberately breaks in and steals your stuff.

[PeaceNikki]

11. this ^

[MannyGoldstein]

15. It's not *right* that unintended audiences can get hold of it

But the reality, I think, is that they do. Certainly Operation Spy On Everyone is vacuuming up ginormous amounts of data with Silicon Valley's help. It's pretty certain that the NSAers are ogling their catch. Other people grab stuff, too.

I think it would be wise to keep things off computers that we want to be sure unintended others don't see.

[kcr]

42. I'm sure you're saying the same thing about phone numbers, tax documents, emails, DU posts

Right?

[MannyGoldstein]

43. Absolutely.

It's a sad reality.

I certainly don't store anything in the cloud that would be embarassing to me or others if read by an unintended audience. The rare file that I really want to keep private I'll encrypt using open-source software and store locally.

[kcr]

45. And how does one go about doing all that?

Kind of hard to post on DU without the internet, for example.

[MannyGoldstein]

47. If I badly cared about who read my stuff on DU

I wouldn't post on DU.

[kcr]

49. But you do need the internet to do it

I doubt you only use the internet for DU. And I doubt you'd be fine with anyone breaking in and stealing all the info on it. If you claim otherwise I'll be skeptical. I can't speak to certainty over what you have and haven't done, but I don't recall you or anyone else blaming the victims of NSA data breaches in the past and saying they shouldn't have had that info available to steal in the first place.

[MannyGoldstein]

55. Gray.

It's not black or white.

I certainly wouldn't be fine with someone breaking into my stuff, I apologize if I somehow suggested that. But I wouldn't be shocked, either.

If I owned anything that would really #%^* me up if someone unintended got hold of it, I wouldn't keep that on a computer at all. But I don't think I have anything like that.

I assume that anything I store in the cloud will probably be read by others. That anything stored on my computer unencrypted has some small chance of being read by others. And anything stored encrypted on my own computer is pretty unlikely to be read by others unless they have some sophistication and have a strong motive for reading what I own.

Then I make decisions based on convenience vs. risk.

I think most people make these types of decisions every day. Convenience vs. risk.

[kcr]

57. I wouldn't argue with any of that

The issue is with the differing responses that are occurring with the data breach. We're talking about people saying things like, "Why would you take a naked picture of yourself?" all the way to "That's what you get for taking a naked picture of yourself!" The problem isn't people taking naked pics of themselves anymore than it's a problem with people using credit cards, or banking online, having an internet account.

[timdog44]

121. "Then I make decisions based on convenience vs. risk."

I have been thinking about this whole situation for some time. I think the above statement says it dead on. What is the value of the material that is being left anywhere. If I had $50,000 and that much and more in jewels, I would not store them in my house. If I had an upscale Ferrari, I would have alarms on the car and security about my garage and house. If the value of my naked pictures is such that I really don't want anyone to see them, I sure would not store them in a "cloud" of any kind. If i did not care if anyone saw them, then put them some where not very secure. I would suspect that anyone savy enough to use ICloud should know that it is hackable.

[JI7]

8. good point, i hope you don't delete it

[La Lioness Priyanka]

10. dont want my students to accidentally stumble on this. nt

[littlemissmartypants]

12. So would the guy that I posed nude for before cell phones

And the art club I modeled for please, contact me, so I can see and get copies of those mementos?

Thanks.

[yodermon]

13. Well said; please don't delete the OP!!

[Quayblue]

14. don't delete!

[AtheistCrusader]

16. 'Never without my permission'.

Your pics, your data, your privacy. The content doesn't matter, it is YOURS and should not be stolen from you.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

17. yup. i wonder if these were business plans that were stolen

would be all be saying, "well they should know that business plans can be stolen" etc. all these excuses are just variations of slut shaming and victim blaming.

[AtheistCrusader]

30. I didn't hear anyone say 'it's your fault for shopping at Target' when they lost millions of

customer records.

Double standards abound, undoubtable because of the nature of the data, in this case, which people are actually slut-shaming and probably don't even know why.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

35. yup.

[malthaussen]

18. Why delete it?

It's a perfectly reasonable position.

-- Mal

[La Lioness Priyanka]

19. dont want my students to accidentally stumble on this. nt

[BlueJazz]

20. I've got one of myself naked and I hesitate to post it but what the heck..

[La Lioness Priyanka]

22. awww. so adorable. nt

[riqster]

23. Perfect response.

[A HERETIC I AM]

48. My, what big pink ears you had!

Who's the little dude you're sleeping with?

[LanternWaste]

21. I'm guessing the same half-wit who trivializes these types of actions would be pretty pissed

I'm guessing the same half-wit who trivializes these types of actions would be pretty pissed should his online banking get hacked. Another guess-- that same half-wit would get even more pissed when idiots tell him "you shouldn't do your banking on the internet... just asking for trouble"

[La Lioness Priyanka]

24. yup. or their business plans.

[nomorenomore08]

103. +2

[liberalmuse]

25. Right on! Everyone has the right to take naked pictures of themselves...

but this does not give anyone the right to steal them or use them without that person's consent. Naked pic taking is a very human thing to do, and we should not be ashamed of our bodies, nor shame anyone who wants to take such pics of themselves or another consenting adult, although many people who take these pictures only intend to share them with certain people. I will not be viewing the ones that were stolen from accounts and distributed online. That is a violation of privacy, and obviously the people hacked did not intend them for wide distribution. I think our society needs to grow the f*ck up and stop blaming people for doing absolutely nothing wrong, based on some false sense of misguided "morality". The people who violated privacy and stole personal effects are the ones who should be ashamed. And that is my two cents.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

27. agreed.

[riqster]

26. Please don't delete the OP. It sends a powerful message.

[SoapBox]

28. Ditto to the don't delete.

Good post.

[Left coast liberal]

29. Nice post. Wish I had that thought when i was young...

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

31. The only reason I wouldn't take nekkid pics

is that I'm not aesthetically pleasing Anyone who feels confident enough to do so should be free to do so without worry of how they could potentially be used against them.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

32. yeah, and if i looked like anyone of these actresses i would have 10,000 instead of the 100 or so

[AverageJoe90]

67. Me neither. I'm very much a Plain Peter myself.

Anyone who feels confident enough to do so should be free to do so without worry of how they could potentially be used against them.

Agreed with this.

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

111. When I was in my early 20s and had a slender, atheletic figure, I posed nude

For a some female art students. At one point, I started to get an erection, but I managed to keep it under control. Now, in my sixties and 40 pounds overweight, I wouldn't dream of it.

[Iggo]

33. Sinner!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

34. absolutely. proud sinner, in fact!

[Eleanors38]

104. I had a lot of chances in youth. And I took 'em!

[FLPanhandle]

36. Taking them and keeping them on non mobile devices for yourself is fairly safe.

The minute you send them electronically to someone else, then odds they one day end up online increase dramatically.

I tell my daughters, don't send anything you don't want shared publicly because the technology isn't secure and people are untrustworthy.

[Veilex]

37. "why would anyone take naked pics"

But but but... we're all supposed to be embarrassed to be naked... and umm its, uhh, taboo or somethin...
/sarcasm off

So much awesome in your post!!! Thank you for sharing

[arcane1]

38. It's really not rocket science, is it?

And I agree 100%.

My guess is that anyone who has ever shared or received such things will NOT be on the side of victim-blaming. I also wouldn't be surprised if envy doesn't play a role, for at least some critics.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

39. agreed. lack of empathy + envy lead to a lot of shitty behavior.

[kdmorris]

44. I don't have any naked pictures (of me when I was younger)

But I do have a bunch of me in a VERY skimpy bikini... my stomach and breasts were not all saggy and stretch-marked like they are now. I was 16 years old and I smile every time I look at those pictures. I would not like to have these pictures stolen and passed around because they were taken for me, for my own personal memories)

I am now in my 40s. 5 children (two of which are twins) have taken their toll on my body. I decided to take pictures of what I look like now because I won't look like this in my 70s. They are not naked pictures (though I do have naked pictures of me when I was 8.5 months pregnant with my two 8+ lbs sons). I would not like these pictures to be stolen and passed around either. These pictures exist so that I will always remember just how huge I was and how beautiful I was at the same time.

It IS slut-shaming, pure and simple.

I hope you don't delete it, but I can understand why you would say you will.

[PatrynXX]

46. I just don't think it wise to take them with a cell phone/smart phone

take them with a normal camera. (hopefully it doesn't have wireless capabilities ) and never store them online. That said don't try to pull this in Australia unwise... I knew a former webmaster who'd sold it to a friend (won't say the site) and then someone hacked that site stuck revenge porn on it and the courts there didn't take shit and shut everything down. Done in the USA that way and Apple would be shut down by now..

[dilby]

50. I kind of look at it, yeah I have taken pics and sent them to people and I wont be shocked to see

myself online someday, not really a problem I have nothing to be embarrassed about and it's only me naked. I realize the second I sent the photos to someone else that photo is no longer mine and I have no control over it. With the instance of the hacking though, they did not send them to someone else and never expected them to go public so they have every right to be outraged.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

51. i disagree that when you consent to send to one person, its somehow morally implied that they

can send to others as well but I do agree on the latter part of your statement (with the instance of the hacking though, they did not send them to someone else and never expected them to go public so they have every right to be outraged.)

[dilby]

54. I think it's an ethical thing over criminal if someone was to post pictures I sent them of myself.

When sharing photos it's generally assumed that these photos are just for you and no one else but it's not like there was a legal agreement and if I made a mistake and sent my photos to someone who later tried to use them to shame me that is on them. I don't condone people who share pics, I think it's pretty juvenile but there is risk in putting those photos out there and it's a risk I am willing to take. In the instance with the hacking it's criminal and I think any site that shows or shares those photos should be treated like criminals.

[a2liberal]

86. There actually are laws now in some places

fyi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenge_porn#Legislation

[LiberalArkie]

52. I wish I still had the one of me streaking Spiro Agnew in Houston (when I was a pup)

[samsingh]

56. i totally agree with you. I have naked pictures of being a younger man

and I am glad I had them taken.

[rpannier]

101. Now a days you'd be in Gitmo

or at the very least facing some sex charge and looking at being a registered sex offender

I was only 4-about 8 when Agnew was Veep.
My father would probably remember that... I'm assuming it made the news
Both my parents would have been shocked and amused at it

[yardwork]

58. You're right.

I wish I had more photos of myself when I was younger.

[bigwillq]

59. I agree, but if yours were leaked

would you be mad at me if I looked?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

61. LOL. no. not really.

[bigwillq]

63. Ok. Cool.

While I disagree with leaking personal photos, I don't think there is any harm in looking, or even searching for them.

[eridani]

60. The reason I don't regret mine is that they were all taken--

--before the internet was invented. Before DARPAnet even--yes, I'm that old.

[antiquie]

114. Yes, we were really *smart* not to use digital cameras

in the sixties and seventies (and I recall having been nakid frequently in those times).

[Warpy]

62. It's a valid POV and one I'd share but state of the art when I was a kid

was Polaroid and those things would be faded away to nothing had anyone taken them.

What I find horrible is the slut shaming that goes with them that is up to and including being fired from jobs because one used to be a silly and uninhibited 18 year old who let the boyfriend take trophy pictures. Or girlfriend. Or sleaze who promised a modeling job.

It's the stupid double standard that says females should be punished and shunned for anything pertaining to sex.

That's the real world, unfortunately, and the man who fires a woman for having been a happy and uninhibited teenager is the only one who bears any guilt in my mind, but she's the one on the unemployment line.

[hunter]

125. Old Polaroids can be surprisingly durable...

... speaking from personal experience.

When naked pics of me as a young adult show up on the internet, they are scans of Polaroids.

[cwydro]

64. I have pics of my naked (well, topless) young self

on old-school type kodak photos.

I think if you want to take pics like that - pf course it is fine.

Sadly, just know they can be stolen.

Hey, it would not embarrass me if mine were online. Sigh, I only wish I still looked like that.

[Sky Masterson]

65. Well said!

[AverageJoe90]

66. Good points here. nt

[Quantess]

68. Why the Polaroid Camera was invented.

Actually... you never have to hand over your 35mm rolls of film to a developer who sees every photo being developed.

[cwydro]

71. Omg yes.

I remember being embarrassed at taking my film in to be developed

I've never been one to take a completely naked pic, but many were topless.

I spent my years in the Keys topless (except at work lol).

[Codeine]

70. So do I.

My body is still in great shape, so I mostly keep them to remember a time when I wasn't bald.

[99th_Monkey]

72. K&R ... Nice one! ~nt

[marym625]

73. k&r

Good for you. I feel the same. I do regret who I shared some pictures with but not that they were taken.

[bettyellen]

75. THIS>why is it so hard to understand that someone would want to have something, that maybe you don't

10000 yes.

[progressoid]

76. As long as it isn't something kinky,

like posing with a Republican.

My wife took a lot of art nudes in the 80s and until a few months ago we had a couple hanging in our house (put up other stuff for a change).

[Jasana]

77. I can appreciate the sentiment but...

if you were a teacher in the US in the middle of your career and those photos leaked out on-line, I doubt you'd be appreciating them the same way.

Keep them with you. If they're on a computer, encrypt them. Don't upload them to the cloud and don't give anyone copies. Have you ever heard of revenge porn? A woman breaks up with a guy. He uploads naked photos of her to a revenge porn site and schools of snapping sharks circle around saying the most vile things about the woman's body. Some will download the pictures. If one of them happens to be a hacker and the jilted X leaves anymore information, they'll try to hack into all her accounts and wreck her life as much as possible.

I wish I was kidding. I am not. Look it up; revenge porn.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

78. i know about revenge porn but people are not responsible for the moral failings of others. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

79. I dont ask why anyone would take naked pics.

Nor do I judge people who do.

[TransitJohn]

80. Good post.

Having the pictures is great. Uploading them onto someone else's computer ("the cloud&quot and expecting privacy or security is stupid. If that makes me a victim blamer, so be it. I think it's called not trusting others who you don't know.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

81. no its not. no one thinks of the cloud as someone else's computer. i love how you guys

are usually so anti corporations, but when it comes to slut shaming, then clearly the woman is to blame and not was the corporation that created a product that was meant to be safe but was not.

you guys =most of du

[TransitJohn]

82. But it is someone else's computer, by definition.

Where do you think those files reside? And I'm not slut shaming. I'm foolishly naive and trusting-shaming. I'm no prude.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

88. no, you are placing blame on people for not understanding technology

that is inherently not presented accurately. this is like saying people should not trust their house locks or their security alarm system and therefore deserve to be robbed.

unless apple in plain english says "this is very hackable and you should not put naked pics on this device", it's not up to or even possible for every consumer to know exactly how unsafe something is.

[TransitJohn]

97. Bingo! I am.

Read the fucking instructions. It's not that hard. If you're illiterate, have someone read it to you. And your analogies to house locks and stuff are totally not apropos to this situation. You simply cannot trust your data security to other computers controlled by others. I learned this on TRS-80's running DOS in the 1980s as a child. It's stupid to think otherwise. And no, I'm not victim blaming. It sucks these celebrities, and millions of others, not celebrities, don't take their data security seriously. It's a very serious problem, for all of us.

And Apple pretty much says that very same thing in their EULAs and ToS. I guess you just trust profit-driven corporations more than me. I'm pretty cynical about it. With those companies, you're not their customer, you're their product, and I don't know why more people don't get this.

I take my digital security seriously, do simple things like turn of location tracking on my phone, administer my own network at home with a custom firmware on my router, have my modem not administering NAT, etc. I used to run a hardware firewall as well.

/rant off

I hope you have a nice evening. We're not going to agree about this.

[justiceischeap]

107. The problem with your opinion TJ, is this

Not everyone is as knowledgeable or as serious about online security as you are and you shouldn't expect them to be (it would be nice if they were but that's beside the point). Lioness is right in the regard that when people have a cloud account of some kind, they assume they're data is going to be safe because it's password protected--that's how most people in the real world see they're online security--if it's protected by a password, it's secure.

I'm a web developer, so I deal with online security issues often and I expect the service I'm hosting with (whether it be a data storage facility or the cloud) that they'll do their part in keeping things secure and I'll do my part. So it's not out of bounds for people to "expect" Apple to have a secure environment within the iCloud and it wasn't a problem with the "cloud" in the first place, it was a problem with one of their apps -- Find My Phone. And yes, I trust that when I pay for a service at any profit-driven corporation that when they say my data is secure, it will be secure.

That said, it's the Internet and hackers are ever-present and I know doing what I do for a living that things WILL get hacked. That's why my opinion is this: once everyone goes on the Internet, you expectation of privacy should go away because there is NOTHING private on the Internet--kinda like you have no expectation of privacy in public places.

When there is a will, there is a way for people to get that information, so don't post anything online that you don't want people to see. I am in no way saying that the victims of this crime are guilty of anything other than naivety but I also know the realities of the Internet and I try to be cautious about what I put out there but that doesn't mean we shouldn't expect our hosting services or the cloud to be as secure as possible.

[kcr]

108. If something is marketed as a safe place to deposit items or information

then it is on that provider when something go wrong. People are often advised to put important items in safe deposit boxes. If something happens to them then, they usually aren't blamed because banks generally follow through on the level of security that makes them a safe choice. No one would say "You shouldn't have put that in a safe deposit box, what were you thinking?" when something happens. Because it's the internet, somehow it's different?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

112. Agreed. Meanwhile I wonder how many people

Shop online and enter their cc info online and would get upset if someone stole all their money. I wonder if the naïveté card was pulled then, how upset they would be.

[kcr]

113. It's next to impossible not to entrust personal info to others to function in society now

The judgment is nothing to do with security and everything to do with scrutinizing and judging the actions of the victims themselves. All they see is the nude pics. There's always a way to scrutinize women and find ways they're at fault when something happens to them.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

117. Do you say this to people who bank online?

Or shop online?

[Texasgal]

83. Why would you be concerened

that your students stumbled on this if you are okay with your nudes?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

84. LOL and you call yourself a feminist. nt

[Texasgal]

85. You are rude.

I'm asking a question.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

87. yes, i am rude but i don't go around shaming women for making different choices with their bodies

than i do. that makes me worthy of being called a feminist. so there is that.

i also don't ask questions as though i don't know the answer to them.

I don't want them to know because people are notoriously slutshaming and sexist. i expect most of them are too.

[Texasgal]

91. I never shamed anyone.

I simply asked a question.

I have never identified as someone who was well educated on feminist ideas, I am learning. Check my posts and you will see. I just know what I believe and agree with and at times have LEARNED from. I've never claimed to be some sort of feminist genius.

I find that someone who claims themselves as an "educator" should do more "educating" Really, what was the point of your thread then? I'd be very unhappy of you were educating me. Actually, I'd drop your class.

Very rude and not deserved.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

92. LOL. given how rude and obnoxious you have been to me in the past, i totally take no

responsibility for educating you.

[Texasgal]

93. wow... you are not even on my radar

and I've been rude an obnoxious to you?

Seriously? When has that happened? Are you confused?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

94. no, not confused. happened around the great feminist wars. i also

take exception to your question, why do you think i wouldn't want my students to find this thread? i find this sort of question disingenuous.

[Texasgal]

96. I would be more concerned about your students

finding this thread because you are rude and are not educating anyone here at all. You just seem angry and accusatory

Anyway, there is no point here obviously. I asked an earnest question and you decided to not answer.

Fem wars from THREE years ago kinda don't register with me. Sorry. I'm moving on.

Good night.

[polly7]

89. I have some too (just a few), and I'm not ashamed of them at all.

Though I wouldn't show them to anyone now ..... maybe years from now to the poor aide who's going to be feeding me at the half table some day, just for shock value lol. My friends and I all did it one day ... I really don't remember why. I think your reasons are great and am glad that you're proud of them. We should all cherish our own bodies and remember them just as we do with pictures of our faces, imo.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

90. ha ha!!

that's funny and cute

[Spitfire of ATJ]

95. "merely slut-shaming by a different name."

I'm glad people are at least STARTING to grow beyond that crap.

[blackspade]

98. Completely agree.

Both my wife and I have nude pics stashed, but not on in an internet friendly format.
In fact I used to have racy pics of friends and exes as well. (I destroyed them though, for obvious reasons)
There is no problem with having or taking them.

The problem lies in some assholes stealing them.

[lovemydog]

99. Let's do a trade right here at DU.

We can share all our pics at this place called The Lounge. It's safe and secure, just like The Cloud.

[IronLionZion]

102. I guarantee no one wants to see me naked

You go girl!

[Eleanors38]

105. I don't want to see me naked.

[Eleanors38]

106. Good post. And you are right. nt

[heaven05]

109. I'm glad you did

the faux prudish american mentality, with religious backing, has made the human body something we should be ashamed of. Don't delete, the truth is always refreshing in a hypocritical world. And yes those unauthorized postings on the net ARE A CRIME. The thieves should be prosecuted under any sex crime statute that exists.

[Feral Child]

110. Valid, Lioness.

The Puritans need to get a grip.

[msanthrope]

115. I have a stack of Polaroids.....very glad I have them. nt

[WinkyDink]

116. Photos used to be physical objects; they could be kept private then. The folly now is thinking such

privacy is available on a computer.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

118. So should we give up online banking and shopping too?

[WinkyDink]

122. Perhaps so; it's not like those sites are hack-free. In any event, one can be sad, mad, or appalled

at the current invasions of privacy, but what one cannot be is shocked.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

123. its not about being shocked but about calmly accepting that transactions we make in the modern world

should not be better protected by the people we pay millions to. like target and apple.

[freebrew]

119. Good point...

at my age, I can't even see myself because of the beer-belly.
Something a friend warned me of long ago.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

120. hadn't read this before. Glad I didn't miss it!

You're right. The suspicious questions asking "WHY would anyone do something like that?" really is Slut Shaming.

You sum up the reasons why very well...they certainly ring true for me.

[hifiguy]

124. Moral of the story -

do whatever the hell you want to do but dump things you don't want seeing the light of day into a thumb drive or a computer that is NOT EVER connected to the intertoobz. Don't leave it on your phone or in the cloud, or even on your computer. Thumb drives are cheap as hell. Simple, no?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

126. right until someone breaks into your house and steals your thumb drive. nt

[Beartracks]

127. Several people have mentioned RISK.

Increasing one's RISK of something bad happening is still not the same as ASKING for something bad to happen.

Parking my car in a bad neighborhood all night will certainly increase the RISK of it being stolen. And that risk is even greater if my car is a Ferrari. And yet... it is still the THIEF who actually did something wrong, and I am still the victim because I did not ASK for the car to be stolen.

Likewise, I may put my nudies on the cloud, which means they are at greater risk of being hacked than if I kept them at home on my hard drive. And the hacking risk is much greater if I'm a hot celebrity. And yet... the hacker is still the wrongdoer, and I am still the victim.

Did I ASK for bad things to happen to my car, pics, or reputation? Certainly not. Did I take proper precautions, knowing that my Ferrari and hot bod shots are likelier targets for theft than would be a Gremlin or muffin top selfies? Maybe I just didn't consider the likelihood that the bad street and the hackable cloud are not the most secure places for these items. But I still didn't ASK for them to be stolen. As Manny Goldstein noted up-thread, I chose the convenience.

You can blame someone for not properly protecting their stuff from highly likely theft situations.... but the criminal is still the criminal. Does the victim in such cases do something inherently WRONG? No. Dumb, maybe; but not immoral.

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