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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 07:34 PM Apr 2012

The best way to counter Ann Romney's attack

Have a bunch of poor, MARRIED and SINGLE mothers talk on You tube and other spots, with lines like?

"Did you ever have to decide between getting medicine and food?"
"Did you ever have to worry about paying a mortgage?"
"Did you ever have to worry about paying the heating bill?"

Have celebs do this as well, formerly poor single moms. Roseanne alone could do a lot of damage.

Do not let Ann play the role of poor old GOP woman vesust those mean ol single moms

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The best way to counter Ann Romney's attack (Original Post) DonCoquixote Apr 2012 OP
I think it's better to let it die rather than stir things up. The President, First Lady, SlimJimmy Apr 2012 #1
Been there done that Lindakimy Apr 2012 #2
Great post. laundry_queen Apr 2012 #3
Counter attack on her or her response? Zax2me Apr 2012 #4
Let it die. It is manufactured outrage. Rosen does not work for Obama, they are lying when they emulatorloo Apr 2012 #5
They should also point EC Apr 2012 #6

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
1. I think it's better to let it die rather than stir things up. The President, First Lady,
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 08:09 PM
Apr 2012

President's campaign manager, and David Axlerod have already weighed in and are all saying that it was an ill advised comment. They have all made it clear that the family of candidates are off limits. Hillary has already apologized. So let's just leave it at that.

Lindakimy

(19 posts)
2. Been there done that
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 08:21 PM
Apr 2012

I understand why a lot of women knee jerked on this one. I have been (at various times) a stay at home (against my will, but that's another story) mom and a working single mom. Yes. Being a mother is work. No doubt about it. But...when you are a stay at home mom you don't have the same stresses (you have other ones) you do when you work outside the home. I've done both and I know what I'm talking about.

When you are supporting yourself working at an outside job you have things to think about that you don't when you have a husband (good, bad or indifferent) supporting you. You have to be on time whether the baby sitter shows up or not. You have to be out of touch with your children to one extent or another. You simply cannot pay attention to your children the same way you would if you were there. That doesn't mean you can't be a good mother. On the contrary. You are modeling an amazing role of breadwinner and supporter. You are showing your children that they can take care of themselves and their families even when it isn't easy. You are showing that mothers are capable of more. There are remarkable advantages either way. Good moms are important but they are not all alike. Please understand me - whether stay at home or go to work, a good mother is vital to the growth and development of children. And whether stay at home or go to work, not all mothers make the grade. It is about dedication to one's child and there are stay at home moms who don't cut it and go to work moms who are not doing it either. THAT isn't the deciding factor. It's about the mother's effort and success in mothering.

When you are a stay at home mom you do work hard but usually you don't have to worry about work stuff - is your job going to be downsized? Are you going to be eliminated? Are you going to have to work extra hours on the weekend? Are they going to ask you to go out of town for a meeting? Is there a group at work who are trying to get rid of you? Can you line something up for the school break?

I, personally, think that raising children is more valuable - more fundamentally important - than just about any outside job you can do. That is my opinion. The trouble is that it usually isn't a choice - one or the other. Most of us have to do both one way or the other. We have to juggle a job and raising our kids.

But if you have children and don't have a job or a supporter (like a rich husband) you have a HUGE problem. WAY more stress. You are going to be on welfare or something and that isn't ideal. Many, many women find themselves having to do both. THAT is what was at issue in that statement that started this whole discussion. Ann Romney has NEVER faced that. She has always been married to someone with money. And as valuable as her work to raise her sons is, she can not know what it is like to decide which bill to pay or how to afford basic health care and buy food at the same time. She didn't buy her children's clothes at yard sales like I did. She didn't have to wonder whether they would be able to go to college. That was the point. How can she be the adviser to a potential president about economic issues for women when she has never faced most of them?

I understand why that original statement was made - that she never worked a day in her life. I wish it had been phrased differently. Ann Romney has worked. But she has worked within the sweet security of financial plenty. That isn't how I did it and it isn't how a lot of women do. Romney isn't going to help women like us. WE are the ones he is out of touch with. And I hope he isn't able to talk this up and pit one woman against another to gain advantage by playing on our conflicts.

This is an old discussion - I got into it with a letter to the editor of the local paper way back in the 70's when society was leaning toward "working women". What has always struck me about this argument is that women need to hang together. We have to support each other's right to choose. Some women can choose to stay home and raise their children without the outside job. That's great. Some women must or choose to work outside the home and that is great too. There are pros and cons on both sides and the important thing is that women should be able to choose. And they should be respected for what they do - whether inside or outside - so long as they make the all out effort to raise their children wisely and well.

I think Romney is trying to drive a wedge between stay at home moms and moms who work outside the home. And he is doing it to further his political goals. It isn't for women. It isn't going to help US. Please think about why he is making this argument before you vote. He can yell about the insult to his wife but what is he proposing to do to help women - all women?

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
3. Great post.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 08:31 PM
Apr 2012

I've been a stay at home mom too (some of that time I felt financially secure), and I'm now a single mom in school full time. There is a huge difference. I agree with everything you say.

 

Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
4. Counter attack on her or her response?
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 09:02 PM
Apr 2012

Because she is not perceived as the attacker on this issue, and if you do not recognize that you lose the argument from the outset.
Just leave it alone, and don't revisit.
That is the correct response to her.

emulatorloo

(44,133 posts)
5. Let it die. It is manufactured outrage. Rosen does not work for Obama, they are lying when they
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 09:18 PM
Apr 2012

say he does.

Just more stupid Republican bullshit.

They are trying to deflect from the Republican War on Women, and it is stupid.

EC

(12,287 posts)
6. They should also point
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 09:29 PM
Apr 2012

to policies that made their life harder and ones that help. Otherwise repubs and 1%ers will just boo-hoo saying it's their fault for making bad choices...

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