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Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 04:21 AM Sep 2014

Oh, my gosh, this is epic. Local reporter drops F-bomb, quits on live TV. Seriously - Epic.

http://www.alaskacommons.com/2014/09/22/ktva-reporter-drops-f-bomb-quits-live-tv/



Local news is rarely jaw-dropping by design. But when it’s off the script, it’s generally equal parts awesome for the viewers and mortifying for the network. Such was the case for KTVA last night, when 10pm Nightcast viewers unwittingly tuned into an impromptu on air “F-Bomb”-laden “I quit” from reporter Charlo Greene.

With an image of the strain of marijuana called “White Widow” serving as the backdrop, Greene said (totally live):

&feature=youtu.be

“I’ll be dedicating all of my energy toward fighting for freedom and fairness which begins with legalizing marijuana here in Alaska. And as for this job, well, not that I have a choice, but… fuck it, I quit.”

Absent a full mic drop, Greene simply shrugged and walked off camera without another word. The camera shot back to stunned anchorwoman, Alexis Fernandez, who was quick to offer an apology before shooting to commercial.
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Oh, my gosh, this is epic. Local reporter drops F-bomb, quits on live TV. Seriously - Epic. (Original Post) Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 OP
wow steve2470 Sep 2014 #1
Like a boss... Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #2
for sure ! lol nt steve2470 Sep 2014 #3
By "boss" you mean self absorbed ninny, right? n/t Joe Magarac Sep 2014 #4
She probably didn't need to drop the F-bomb Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #5
Bad "little" reporter?? starroute Sep 2014 #100
Sorry, I'm old, she's young. Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #106
I just react to things you wouldn't say if it was a guy starroute Sep 2014 #113
Well, you're wrong there. Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #115
No, but good luck with that.... daleanime Sep 2014 #68
Jon Stewart has prolly already reached for the phone. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #98
Kicked and recommended for her new goals. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #6
Here is more from Alaska Dispatch News Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #7
So it was really just a self serving stunt. Worked; we're talking about her. 7962 Sep 2014 #16
I know every time I quit a job it was self serving. n/t tazkcmo Sep 2014 #71
I live in Alaska, I watch that news station and I want to tell you, I am offended roguevalley Sep 2014 #74
That's a terrible reason to not vote for the legalization initiative. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #80
Do you know that she experienced that here? I don't give a damn about roguevalley Sep 2014 #83
Goin' rogue, like the Sarah. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #84
I agree. :D:D:D I really hate this stuff. But I bow to the inevitable roguevalley Sep 2014 #85
The anti people haven't been playing us for decades? How many billions? How many lives destroyed? TheKentuckian Sep 2014 #145
And just like Palin she quits half way through. nt arthritisR_US Sep 2014 #123
Actually, sounds like you are being manipulated, just in the opposite direction. moriah Sep 2014 #136
How are you being played JonLP24 Sep 2014 #144
Waaaaah! tabasco Sep 2014 #95
to you but not to me and a lot of people up here. If this had been a right winger roguevalley Sep 2014 #114
You have put it quite well. And you're not falling for her BS stunt. 7962 Sep 2014 #99
Whether this passes or not really doesn't matter that much to me Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #130
agreed, Blue. It is rancouous but it will end how it does roguevalley Sep 2014 #135
I am confused by Alaska marijuana laws. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #8
Yes, it was the war on drugs pipoman Sep 2014 #22
We can possess up to an ounce for personal use Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #33
Thank you, Blue. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #120
Yeah, it's not easy to live in the Bush. Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #129
That's a nice thought. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #131
no. you can have medical marijuana. decriminalization has been underway since forever roguevalley Sep 2014 #116
Thank you, roguevalley. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #119
your welecome. go to ADN dot com and read why alaska will not be a test roguevalley Sep 2014 #134
You're a teacher? ..nt TeeYiYi Sep 2014 #138
half of my life. roguevalley Sep 2014 #142
You're welcome. TeeYiYi Sep 2014 #143
Here is a very good explanation of our laws from a Washington Post blog Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #137
Thank you, Blue. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #141
The Ernie Anastos Award goes to... Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #9
Now that is freaking delish malaise Sep 2014 #10
who tapes the news? lobodons Sep 2014 #11
Rewind what you're watching. Inkfreak Sep 2014 #17
pretty immature & unprofessional if you ask me santroy79 Sep 2014 #12
I totally agree. Happyhippychick Sep 2014 #13
Epic and awesome if you ask me LOL snooper2 Sep 2014 #20
I guess if you dont have kids sitting beside you santroy79 Sep 2014 #122
Depends on the back story... pipoman Sep 2014 #23
Totally agree.... daleanime Sep 2014 #69
God, I love her. Shake the system until the stoic right-wingers fall on their ass. BlueJazz Sep 2014 #14
actually, lots of right wingers are for it. She was wrong and probably lost roguevalley Sep 2014 #76
"She has a commercial stake and should lose for it." BlueJazz Sep 2014 #86
edited for brevity roguevalley Sep 2014 #117
Aw..I understand what you mean. I've (since) read the whole story and researched some facts... BlueJazz Sep 2014 #124
hugs, blue jazz. :F I for one will be glad 11-3. Everytime I turn on Netflix, our conservative roguevalley Sep 2014 #133
Reminds me --- it was in the mid '70's when a reporter for a UHF station in Florida said, Hoppy Sep 2014 #15
Christine Chubbuck Cooley Hurd Sep 2014 #19
Would have been a lot more dignified without the f bomb. cwydro Sep 2014 #18
The person giggling is the person filming the TV set with his iPhone. former9thward Sep 2014 #30
Fuck dignified. That was badass. Iggo Sep 2014 #50
Fuck it I quit madokie Sep 2014 #21
Low class YarnAddict Sep 2014 #24
I prefer the 'F bomb' to lies. Too bad there isn't a way to pin a growing nose on sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #29
I even disagree that she has ruined her broadcasting career. Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #32
Really? YarnAddict Sep 2014 #36
I don't know the backstory, nor her motives. Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #40
She was obviously not happy with YarnAddict Sep 2014 #45
"Well-behaved women seldom make history." Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #49
Hm. you're probably right. YarnAddict Sep 2014 #65
What are your sentiments on Snowden, Greenwald, Manning & Ellsberg? Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #72
The MSM not 'touching' her is to HER credit. Now I really like her. The MSM is the least trusted, sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #89
Yes, she wasn't one of those once-effective reporters Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #91
I question her journalistic integrity and that should be a red flag to anyone looking to hire her sweetloukillbot Sep 2014 #109
Maybe she could get a job on The Daily Show? cstanleytech Sep 2014 #111
Me too. "I prefer the 'F bomb' to lies." Enthusiast Sep 2014 #35
Amen. woo me with science Sep 2014 #55
What do you call using your position to promote your business w/o disclosing it? joeglow3 Sep 2014 #140
Jon Stewart could give her a job. Islandurp Sep 2014 #53
Yeah. If she is on TV again, I would watch her. immoderate Sep 2014 #58
I bet even Jon Stewart YarnAddict Sep 2014 #64
The mass media lies to us every day; filthy, filthy lies... hunter Sep 2014 #25
I quite agree. Thanks for putting this into words so eloquently. djean111 Sep 2014 #28
I agree...lies, propaganda for the 1% hijacking the life right out from under us.... BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2014 #75
Well, that rant would kinda make sense.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #88
Thank you, well said. n/t sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #90
My kind of person. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #26
As someone who has had up to 50 direct reports at one time Iamthetruth Sep 2014 #38
And sometimes you have to be able to look at yourself in the mirror. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #41
Maybe once Iamthetruth Sep 2014 #42
Most of them didn't start out that way, then you get a new bozo in charge. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #43
Been there Iamthetruth Sep 2014 #60
When I walk I don't look back. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #63
actually, looking onself in the mirror .... I might agree if she didn't have a roguevalley Sep 2014 #77
"I don't need this shit." lpbk2713 Sep 2014 #27
I cannot for the life of me understand why weed makes people act like such assholes. nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #31
I see assholery but not on her part. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #44
Ah yes. Her oppressive employer had it coming. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #46
you're looking in the wrong place. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #52
Nothing. n/t eShirl Sep 2014 #54
What is it about a red herring that makes it smell so bad? immoderate Sep 2014 #61
! BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2014 #78
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #81
I find this question about weed strange locks Sep 2014 #57
What's a more acceptable excuse? immoderate Sep 2014 #62
If she's been reporting on the MM movement, she and her station should have disclosed Heidi Sep 2014 #34
Hear hear. That's journalism 101. n/t sweetloukillbot Sep 2014 #110
Bingo TorchTheWitch Sep 2014 #112
agreed ! nt steve2470 Sep 2014 #121
What a moron Iamthetruth Sep 2014 #37
You wish. tabasco Sep 2014 #96
I agree with you. RagAss Sep 2014 #102
So you agree Iamthetruth Sep 2014 #126
We're free to quit jobs anyway we want to. It's our last bastion of free will.... RagAss Sep 2014 #128
You're free to do a lot of things Iamthetruth Sep 2014 #132
Nobody is going to be poor selling legalized weed. RagAss Sep 2014 #139
Is that your job? Iamthetruth Sep 2014 #125
Yes. 840high Sep 2014 #105
you are the moron if you think a cannabis club will fail noiretextatique Sep 2014 #127
Badass! PasadenaTrudy Sep 2014 #39
Since the medical practice I work for... 3catwoman3 Sep 2014 #47
Epic? Nah. Amusing? Sort of. Orrex Sep 2014 #48
A brief moment of honesty for once. Throd Sep 2014 #51
Did she just make herself a high-profile drug dealer? R B Garr Sep 2014 #56
"If *those* people weren't so angry, maybe I'd listen to them." hunter Sep 2014 #59
Best clip of the week! marble falls Sep 2014 #66
Guerrilla marketing lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #67
I see the Washington Post has picked up her story Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #70
Hilarious. Great promotional tactic. valerief Sep 2014 #73
how ohheckyeah Sep 2014 #79
Immature and hurts her cause, IMO. Separation Sep 2014 #82
Nope. She is now a CELEBRITY! -- Priceless. immoderate Sep 2014 #92
Not another brick in the wall. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #87
Do it on purpose, and play it out loud... WheelWalker Sep 2014 #93
Get it girl!! bravenak Sep 2014 #94
tv news has been giving us a big fuck you for years, refreshing to see someone give one back whereisjustice Sep 2014 #97
I hope her next entirely dfifferent career field works out for her. WinkyDink Sep 2014 #101
You Go Girl! ablamj Sep 2014 #103
Totally classless. 840high Sep 2014 #104
But did she tell the truth? If not, then yes, that would be classless. I would give anything sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #108
If it's good enough for Morning Joe... tomm2thumbs Sep 2014 #107
This is an immature an action. Jenoch Sep 2014 #118

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
5. She probably didn't need to drop the F-bomb
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 04:33 AM
Sep 2014

but she's got the courage of her convictions. LOL.

She's not a bad little reporter, really, but I think she has different career aspirations.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
106. Sorry, I'm old, she's young.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 10:41 PM
Sep 2014

It slipped. Will it make you feel better if I say "young"?

Okay. She wasn't a bad young reporter. I enjoyed her take on things. There, how's that?


Are you going to chastise those calling her classless, unprofessional, immature, etc.? Not to mention "moron." Oh, don't forget "self-absorbed ninny."

starroute

(12,977 posts)
113. I just react to things you wouldn't say if it was a guy
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 01:27 AM
Sep 2014

Most of the other things you cite are gender-neutral, except for ninny. But you would never call a man a "good little reporter," and that's what annoyed me. Maybe "a decent small-town reporter" would have been more to the point.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
115. Well, you're wrong there.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 02:49 AM
Sep 2014

I would indeed call a young male reporter a good little reporter. I'm a woman. I'm almost 68 and everyone under 35 is a kid to me. I say my 42-year-old daughter is a "good girl."

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
7. Here is more from Alaska Dispatch News
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 04:57 AM
Sep 2014
http://www.adn.com/article/20140921/ktva-reporter-quits-air-reveals-herself-owner-alaska-cannabis-club




Reporter Charlo Greene quit on-air during KTVA-TV's 10 p.m. newscast Sunday, revealing herself as the owner of the medical marijuana business Alaska Cannabis Club and telling viewers that she would be using all of her energy to fight for legalizing marijuana in Alaska.

Greene had reported on the Alaska Cannabis Club during Sunday night’s broadcast, without revealing her connection to it. At the end of the report, during a live shot, she announced that she was the club's owner and would be quitting.

“Now everything you heard is why I, the actual owner of the Alaska Cannabis Club, will be dedicating all of my energy for fighting for freedom and fairness which begins with legalizing marijuana here in Alaska," she said. "And as for this job, well, not that I have a choice but, fuck it, I quit.”

And with that, she walked off camera.

<snip>





roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
74. I live in Alaska, I watch that news station and I want to tell you, I am offended
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 05:25 PM
Sep 2014

by this. I've watched that station for 40 years. I expect that news will be reported as news and not as a stunt to promote the reporter's businesses.

I don't like marijuana but I voted in the petitions to put it on the ballot for legalization because even if I don't like it, others do. Right now, the medical stuff and personal use laws appy but the moment this is legalized she stands to make a butt load of cash selling it to everyone.

I don't want the reporters selling their businesses on the news. I don't want someone so unprofessional that she says, "Fuck it. I quit." She could have just said for these reasons I quit to work full time for my cause.

To her boss.

To. Her. Boss.

But she didn't. There's nothing newsworthy in that.

She may have all the conviction in the world but this was for business and her own financial gain. Period. She stands to make a lot of money if this goes through. She did this for money.

I signed all the petitions and was going to vote for the ballot measure Oct. 7th to pass but not now. It would surprise you how many people I have talked to about this who are offended as well and most of them are under 30. I guess us oldsters are used to stupid self serving shit. If she wanted to forward her cause, she didn't. It has nothing to do with prudery. Everyone I talked to want it to pass but they are PISSED.

I don't care who has an opinion about my change of mind. I won't vote for this measure because she abused the public trust to promote her business ventures in the guise of pushing an issue. I don't know how it will go here. It might go fine. But not with me on board. I can stand a lot but a shill saying fuck on tv in the guise of principle when its all about the benjamins, then walking away pisses me off. Pot stores make tons of money elsewhere ... who knows that better than a reporter who has a stake in the issue passing? She should have done this with the boss and not subjected us to her crass commercial gyrations. We get enough shit up here from the Palins. This is straight from the same cheesy cloth.

Shoot me.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
80. That's a terrible reason to not vote for the legalization initiative.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 05:39 PM
Sep 2014

Alcohol, tobacco, prescription opiates are all legal. Pot should be too, but the former industries are keeping it illegal as always.

No doubt the anchorwoman was sick and tired of the sexism and racism all too common in the
backstages of the MSM.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
83. Do you know that she experienced that here? I don't give a damn about
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 05:48 PM
Sep 2014

illegal or not. I signed the petitions for it to go on the ballot but I won''t be manipulated by a shill that used her public platform to advance her own business interests and did so in the most immature and crass manner. That is a damned good reason to not vote for this. Don't shill your shit in the guise of crusading. I have had it up to here with that crap. Truly.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
85. I agree. :D:D:D I really hate this stuff. But I bow to the inevitable
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 05:54 PM
Sep 2014

of it passing. I doubt that my vote alone will mean nothing but I stand up for my feeling that being played is not a help here. I wonder how many others are out there feeling the same way? We are a weird kind of strange here. We get every other states oddballs and we're pretty interesting. It will probably pass.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
145. The anti people haven't been playing us for decades? How many billions? How many lives destroyed?
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 07:46 PM
Sep 2014

How often an excuse for chipping and gouging away at our rights?

Hell, this logic allows you to play one's self for the benefit of some of the biggest scammers in history.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
136. Actually, sounds like you are being manipulated, just in the opposite direction.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:37 PM
Sep 2014

Allowing one person's bad behavior to harm the people of your state, when you supported the measure before?

Even the non-smokers will be harmed by the measure failing, given that legalization generates bigger tax revenue for the state than it does profit for business owners.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
144. How are you being played
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 04:49 PM
Sep 2014

if you vote yes for your own reasons?

If she didn't do what she did would you have voted yes? I don't understand how you're being manipulated if you're already aware of her actions and a yes vote would mean you were manipulated. It sounds more like you're playing yourself.

I have no idea if there is a campaign against it in Alaska but there is a hell of a lot of manipulation & propaganda going on

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
114. to you but not to me and a lot of people up here. If this had been a right winger
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 02:46 AM
Sep 2014

doing this to financially benefit them, would you still be that way to me? I doubt it

jeez. where are the adults in this world. She didn't help her cause and notice ... she didn't mention she had a fucking huge financial interest in passing the referendum. Hell no. She just acted like it is some passion she has that doesn't personally benefit here.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
99. You have put it quite well. And you're not falling for her BS stunt.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 08:26 PM
Sep 2014

This is why I dont like things like protests shutting down highways, or shouting down speakers or other such crap. All it does is make people who may actually sympathize with the protestors cause, to shake their heads and think "assholes" and move on.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
130. Whether this passes or not really doesn't matter that much to me
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 02:01 PM
Sep 2014

as I am a horticulturist by hobby, but for the medical patients, I think it would be great to have legal dispensaries. Charlo may stand to make money, but if it were legal, she would have competition, and might not make as much as you think.

I understand your concerns, and I believe she could have been much more professional about it, but she wanted to make a statement, and she did. The shrillness of the antis (Deborah Williams) does nothing to help their side either. I suspect that by the time of the election, all of this will have died down, and most people will vote however they were planning to vote in the first place, with exceptions, of course.

<<hug>> RV

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
135. agreed, Blue. It is rancouous but it will end how it does
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:32 PM
Sep 2014

I don't like it and I hate the smell but a friend uses it for glaucoma. I think it has probably been used for stuff for centuries. Its time to figure this out. Hugs, Blue

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
8. I am confused by Alaska marijuana laws.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 05:15 AM
Sep 2014

If I remember correctly, Alaskans were allowed to grow a limited number of marijuana plants for their personal use. That was a long time ago. Am I mistaken?

Is there strong interest in full legalization of marijuana in Alaska?

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
22. Yes, it was the war on drugs
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 09:21 AM
Sep 2014

That caused Alaska and Oregon to recriminalize pot. It was contentious at the time...I suspect there is support for legalization there...

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
33. We can possess up to an ounce for personal use
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 01:18 PM
Sep 2014

and grow a certain number of plants, and medicinal use was completely legalized several years ago, but it's still illegal to sell, so there's a gray area. Charlo's organization is supporting having legal outlets where medical marijuana patients (for now) can legally buy their pot, and everyone if the legalization initiative passes in November. I have read that Alaska has the highest number of marijuana users per capita of any state in the union, something like 16% of adults. It should pass.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
120. Thank you, Blue.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 05:28 AM
Sep 2014

Many of us living in the lower 48 have contemplated living in Alaska. Me and my buds used to sit around the camp fire and talk about it.

My grizzled old buddy has since passed away. He looked like someone out of the Klondike gold rush. He always wanted to "homestead" in Alaska. This was completely unrealistic. He couldn't even get his own beer out of the cooler.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
129. Yeah, it's not easy to live in the Bush.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 01:28 PM
Sep 2014

Here in Anchorage is just like any other city, really, except we're surrounded by all this beautiful wilderness. I was just reading an article about climate change this morning that said Alaska and the Pacific NW will be the place to be next century when everywhere else is suffering. Maybe you should move up while you have the chance.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
116. no. you can have medical marijuana. decriminalization has been underway since forever
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 02:51 AM
Sep 2014

I don't know how its going to go. I think its closer than you would think and I don't think she helped anyone pulling this stunt. especially when she has a personal financial stake in it passing. Really low class move in my opinion. I have to tell you, being a teacher forever and never once saying a swear word no matter how terrible things got because professionalism demanded higher standards of conduct, I find what she did abysmally childish. stupid even.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
134. your welecome. go to ADN dot com and read why alaska will not be a test
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:30 PM
Sep 2014

case because our progress here is 'too weird'

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
137. Here is a very good explanation of our laws from a Washington Post blog
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:48 PM
Sep 2014
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/09/24/alaska-legalized-weed-39-years-ago-wait-what/?tid=sm_fb




Alaska legalized weed 39 years ago

Yes, you read that headline right. In 1975, the Alaska Supreme Court ruled in Ravin v. State that the right to possess, cultivate and consume small amounts of marijuana in the home was protected under the state Constitution's right to privacy.

As you might imagine, that ruling has faced some opposition over the years, and has been placed into legal limbo from time to time due to various ballot and legislative challenges. But Alaska courts have repeatedly and consistently upheld the notion that Constitutional privacy protections cover the personal possession, cultivation and use of marijuana in Alaska.

"Alaskans can currently lawfully possess up to four ounces of marijuana in their homes for personal use [and cultivate up to 25 plants], but still risk prosecution under existing state and federal statutes," concludes University of Alaska law professor Jason Brandeis in an exhaustive history of Alaska marijuana law (which makes for a pretty interesting read if you're into such things). You could still technically be charged with marijuana possession if caught with less than four ounces in your home, but a court would essentially have to throw the charge out.

This puts Alaska in a unique position: in some respects its marijuana laws are more liberal than those in the Netherlands, which outlaw personal cultivation completely. While all eyes are on Colorado and Washington to see how those experiments with legal marijuana turn out, Alaska, with 39 years of (admittedly complicated) legalization history is largely overlooked: you'd think that forces on both sides of the national marijuana debate would be looking to Alaska for answers and arguments. Why aren't they?

<snip>



So in reality this initiative would have little effect other than providing legal outlets for people to purchase their weed and providing some additional revenue for the state. Interesting to note, "In short, Alaskans use marijuana twice as much as Americans elsewhere, but so far the sky hasn't fallen." (Palins, notwithstanding.)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
9. The Ernie Anastos Award goes to...
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 05:47 AM
Sep 2014

Actually, good for her. She's standing up for something she believes in, and something I believe in too.



And the corp-owned tv media sure as shit hasn't historically put forth anything resembling a sane, rational postion towards pot. ("Run! Hide your chillens from the devil's weed! Now, for a word from our sponsor, Lowenbrau&quot

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
11. who tapes the news?
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 06:26 AM
Sep 2014

I can see maybe DVR'ing the news, but to hand hold tape the news..?? Who does that..??

Perhaps Ms. Green's friends who were in the know..??

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
17. Rewind what you're watching.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 07:18 AM
Sep 2014

Record it. Post it. I've done it to grab a picture or share something funny. It's a quick way to load it up to Facebook or another platform. Not that strange.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
14. God, I love her. Shake the system until the stoic right-wingers fall on their ass.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 06:57 AM
Sep 2014

Media is so phony and plastic anyway, it's nice to see someone escape with their integrity still intact.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
76. actually, lots of right wingers are for it. She was wrong and probably lost
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 05:26 PM
Sep 2014

votes. She has a commercial stake and should lose for it.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
86. "She has a commercial stake and should lose for it."
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 06:00 PM
Sep 2014

I don't understand what you mean.
Is she running for office ?

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
117. edited for brevity
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 03:02 AM
Sep 2014

I am offended that she used a public role as reporter to shill for her business. She already has a business selling pot and if this passes she will be rich as midas. She was shilling her stake. Also, I dislike being manipulated by someone in her position regarding her actions. She could push her cause outside of work, she could have left after talking to the boss and she could have gone without saying what she said.

It offended more than just me. I signed the petition to get it on the ballot because it needs to happen. The war on drugs is a mess. But she didn't win friends by what she did. I have a thick skin and feel the offense, real offense. She had a financial stake and took steps to make it happen. If this was a pug doing the same thing, we would be howling. I see no difference. She was shilling for financial gain.

And I am tired of Alaska looking bad. Palin and this. I'm sick of it.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
124. Aw..I understand what you mean. I've (since) read the whole story and researched some facts...
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 08:06 AM
Sep 2014

..on the subject. You're entirely correct. She possibly offended the very people who were "on the fence" and perhaps will change their mind for the worse. The people, like you, who signed the position are not going to change their vote but I can very well see how her actions would irritate the rest of the populace. Also, she may have very well, cut her own proverbial financial throat.

So...I jumped the gun by expressing my thoughts without knowing all the facts. My bad.
Thanks for enlightening this poster.

Cheers.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
133. hugs, blue jazz. :F I for one will be glad 11-3. Everytime I turn on Netflix, our conservative
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:29 PM
Sep 2014

candidates rant in commercials. Cheers back at ya.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
15. Reminds me --- it was in the mid '70's when a reporter for a UHF station in Florida said,
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 07:01 AM
Sep 2014

(as best as I can recall) and in keeping with this station's policy of promoting violence on air.....

With that, she pulled a pistol out of her desk drawer and killed herself, live.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
19. Christine Chubbuck
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 07:52 AM
Sep 2014
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Chubbuck

Lead-up
Three weeks before her death, she had asked the station's news director if she could do a news piece on suicide. After her suggestion was approved, she visited the local sheriff's department to discuss with an officer methods of suicide. In the interview, an officer told her one of the most efficient ways was to use a .38 caliber revolver with wadcutter target bullets, and to shoot oneself in the back of the head rather than in the temple.
A week before her suicide she told Rob Smith, the night news editor, that she had bought a gun and joked about killing herself on air. Smith later told the Washington Post he had chided her for the comment.

Suicide
On the morning of July 15, 1974, Chubbuck confused co-workers by claiming she had to read a newscast to open her program, Suncoast Digest, something she had never done before. That morning's talk show guest waited across the studio while she sat at the news anchor's desk. During the first eight minutes of her program, Chubbuck covered three national news stories and then a shooting from the previous day at local restaurant Beef & Bottle, at the Sarasota-Bradenton Airport. The film reel of the restaurant shooting had jammed and would not run, so Chubbuck shrugged it off and said on-camera, "In keeping with Channel 40's policy of bringing you the latest in 'blood and guts', and in living color, you are going to see another first—attempted suicide." She drew the revolver and shot herself behind her right ear. Chubbuck fell forward violently and the technical director faded rapidly to black. Camera operator Jean Reed later recalled she thought it had been an elaborate prank and did not realize Chubbuck had actually shot herself until she saw Chubbuck's twitching body.

The station quickly ran a standard public service announcement and then a movie. Some television viewers called the police, while others called the station to inquire if the shooting was staged.

“She had written something like 'TV 40 news personality Christine Chubbuck shot herself in a live broadcast this morning on a Channel 40 talk program. She was rushed to Sarasota Memorial Hospital, where she remains in critical condition.'”
—Mike Simmons, TV-40 news director, quoted in The Dallas Morning News

After the shooting, news director Mike Simmons found the papers from which Chubbuck had been reading her newscast contained a complete script of her program, including not only the shooting, but also a third-person account to be read by whatever staff member took over the broadcast after the incident. He said her script called for her condition to be listed as "critical".

Chubbuck was taken to Sarasota Memorial Hospital, as her script had predicted; there, she was pronounced dead fourteen hours later. Upon receiving the news, a WXLT staffer released the information to other stations using Chubbuck's script.

For a time, WXLT aired reruns of the TV series Gentle Ben in place of Chubbuck's program.
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
18. Would have been a lot more dignified without the f bomb.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 07:25 AM
Sep 2014

Imo

Who was giggling in the background? The crew?

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
50. Fuck dignified. That was badass.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 02:32 PM
Sep 2014

Imo

I didn't notice the giggling until they were laughing at the anchor, because seriously, that's when it got funny.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
21. Fuck it I quit
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 09:11 AM
Sep 2014

Those words resonate with me as I said them many times way back years ago when I was young and had no problem finding a new job, fuck it I quit In one week span I had 7 jobs, probably a record. One of them I actually worked a whole day and part of the next one too. when I went to pick up my pay check and took them to cash them the lady at the bank couldn't believe I had 7 paychecks for that week, thought I had forged some or something. Took over an hour to get them all cashed cause the bank called them all to find out if this was all on the up and up. Never forget the look on the bank tellers face when she handed me my few dollars. This was back when a buck an hour was pretty good pay so it wasn't a ton of money. LOL

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
24. Low class
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 11:10 AM
Sep 2014

I'm glad she has her MJ business as back-up because I doubt she'll ever be able to get another job in any field.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
29. I prefer the 'F bomb' to lies. Too bad there isn't a way to pin a growing nose on
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 12:18 PM
Sep 2014

all the lying propagandists we have on the air. Honesty is refreshing with or without some colorful language.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
32. I even disagree that she has ruined her broadcasting career.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 12:57 PM
Sep 2014

Certainly M$M wouldn't touch her--as much for her outspoken nature and "unpredictability" as for any specific offense--but I could envision a great career for her in various kinds of alternative media, etc. I don't think Amy Goodman is ill-fed, for example.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
36. Really?
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 01:29 PM
Sep 2014

Who is going to want to hire someone who will walk off the job IN THE MIDDLE OF A SHIFT?? It's really only reasonable to give at least minimal notice, in order to make arrangements for rearranging schedules, or whatever.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
40. I don't know the backstory, nor her motives.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 01:40 PM
Sep 2014

There are certainly conceivable reasons why she might have wanted to use her platform for her own purposes, even at the cost of her career, to go out in a blaze of glory while making a statement that she would otherwise never have been permitted to make.


What was her relationship with her employers? Maybe they had earned what they got from her.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
45. She was obviously not happy with
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 01:53 PM
Sep 2014

her employment situation. That said, she should still have had enough class to quietly submit her resignation, and leave without "making a statement."

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
49. "Well-behaved women seldom make history."
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 02:19 PM
Sep 2014

-Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

I'm really interested to note that everyone seems to have picked a side on this story. It seems to reflect a division between people with rebellious dispositions and those with more willingness to not rock the boat.

I'm not suggesting that either is a better way to be, but that this may tap some interesting dimension of individual differences in attitudes toward social engagement.

Does any of this make sense to you as you read it?

Just to explore this a little, what are your thoughts about Occupy? About popular uprisings like the Wisconsin recall movement? I have no presuppositions about your answers.


 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
65. Hm. you're probably right.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 03:31 PM
Sep 2014

I'm basically a "go with the flow" person.

About OWS: Civil disobedience is a good thing. I'm too old to participate in something like Occupy, but I agree with their goals.

Wisconsin: Ohhhhhh. I have a problem with teachers walking out on their students. I think their first obligation should have been to them.

JMHO.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
72. What are your sentiments on Snowden, Greenwald, Manning & Ellsberg?
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 05:02 PM
Sep 2014

Do you see significant differences between them in what they did, or their levels of blameworthiness for damaging US security, or alternatively their levels of praiseworthiness for having revealed certain things that should not have been kept secret from the public?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
89. The MSM not 'touching' her is to HER credit. Now I really like her. The MSM is the least trusted,
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 06:14 PM
Sep 2014

least watched media in the world. If THEY were willing to take her on, I would not be interested in anything she had to say.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
91. Yes, she wasn't one of those once-effective reporters
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 06:52 PM
Sep 2014

Who allowed their talents to be nullified as a condition of accepting cushy, lucrative network employment as a talking-Barbie doll (of whatever ethnicity).

sweetloukillbot

(11,029 posts)
109. I question her journalistic integrity and that should be a red flag to anyone looking to hire her
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 11:23 PM
Sep 2014

She had no business doing a news report on a business she owned. Big conflict of interest. I'm curious about the entire story - was she quoting the owner "Who wished to remain anonymous" at some point in it? Did her editor find out about the ethical lapse in it and plan to fire her for it?
If she wanted to do a crusading story on MMJ clubs in Alaska, that's well and good, but she should have disclosed her connections at the onset and not focused the story on her own business - that makes it little more than an advertisement.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
25. The mass media lies to us every day; filthy, filthy lies...
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 11:44 AM
Sep 2014

... spewing shit into our homes, into our brains...

... yet people are offended by this, calling it out for being an impolite publicity stunt, unprofessional, and telling us the standard "she'll never find work in that town again!

I wish this woman great success in her endeavor. May her business thrive as the ridiculous drug wars end.



 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
28. I quite agree. Thanks for putting this into words so eloquently.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 12:09 PM
Sep 2014

I have only spontaneously quit a job once (in my early sixties!), but was surrounded by so much hypocrisy that I felt I had no choice - and it was supremely satisfying, saying I QUIT - and saying exactly why. Office situation, not a job where turnover was expected.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
75. I agree...lies, propaganda for the 1% hijacking the life right out from under us....
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 05:25 PM
Sep 2014

I think that's worse than a woman who knows she's a news-prop (and probably treated like it at the station) saying, "Fuck this".

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
88. Well, that rant would kinda make sense....
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 06:09 PM
Sep 2014

....if she hadn't just done a report on the legalization of marijuana on one of the outlets that you say spews filthy, filthy lies.

Iamthetruth

(487 posts)
38. As someone who has had up to 50 direct reports at one time
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 01:40 PM
Sep 2014

I find it foolish to just walk off jobs. Jobs are hard enough to come by, any decent job out there will call for references and don't think for a minutes old employers can't get their specific view across without crossing legal lines.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
41. And sometimes you have to be able to look at yourself in the mirror.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 01:43 PM
Sep 2014

As I told my CO back in my days of government servitude "Yeah, i could stay out of trouble and keep my mouth shut no matter how much I get screwed. Therte's only one little problem."
"What's that?"
"I don't like the taste of shit."

Iamthetruth

(487 posts)
42. Maybe once
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 01:45 PM
Sep 2014

But you said several times. At some point you have to ask why are you taking these jobs in the first place?

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
77. actually, looking onself in the mirror .... I might agree if she didn't have a
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 05:27 PM
Sep 2014

commercial interest in the outcome. But that's just me.

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
27. "I don't need this shit."
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 11:56 AM
Sep 2014




"And Management, please direct any further questions
or comments to the mistletoe on my shirt tail. "



Been there. Done that. No T-shirt.


Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
46. Ah yes. Her oppressive employer had it coming.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 01:59 PM
Sep 2014

Seriously...what is it about weed that creates a sense of entitlement and emboldens indecorous behavior?

Response to immoderate (Reply #61)

locks

(2,012 posts)
57. I find this question about weed strange
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 03:00 PM
Sep 2014

I am old now and have known many people who use pot but can't remember one who acted like what I'd call a___ish. Silly, maybe, talking too much or too little, but none that did anything dangerous or risky to themselves or others, or what I'd call a___ish.

But I have known many, many more people who use alcohol, some of whom have acted in the most foolish, dangerous, violent, insane, ways we usually call a__ish and didn't even remember what they had done.

Heidi

(58,237 posts)
34. If she's been reporting on the MM movement, she and her station should have disclosed
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 01:21 PM
Sep 2014

her involvement from the start. I'm 9 jillion percent in favor of legalization--medical use or recreational use, doesn't matter to me--but her little temper tantrum at being _forced to disclose_ ("not that I have a choice&quot isn't helpful for journalism or for the movement. Ethics and credibility are important.

Iamthetruth

(487 posts)
37. What a moron
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 01:37 PM
Sep 2014

She has every right to do what she believes in but in a coupe of years when she is looking for another job because this business fails she will regret the way she left her job. Nothing like burning bridges.

RagAss

(13,832 posts)
128. We're free to quit jobs anyway we want to. It's our last bastion of free will....
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 01:11 PM
Sep 2014

in this corporate fascist country we've become.

Iamthetruth

(487 posts)
132. You're free to do a lot of things
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:20 PM
Sep 2014

Just don't complain about being poor and not being able to find a decent paying job if you quit like that.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
127. you are the moron if you think a cannabis club will fail
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:54 AM
Sep 2014

unless she's a complete moron about business, she should be very successful.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
47. Since the medical practice I work for...
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 02:04 PM
Sep 2014

...started using electronic medical records, I have felt this way many a day. Not my style, but fun to fantasize about.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
56. Did she just make herself a high-profile drug dealer?
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 02:50 PM
Sep 2014

I thought the goal for that profession was not to bring unwanted attention to yourself.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
59. "If *those* people weren't so angry, maybe I'd listen to them."
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 03:09 PM
Sep 2014

Oh no, you decorous and easily offended ones, you would not.

Anyone who is not angry about the catastrophic damage done by the "war on drugs" isn't paying attention.

And what passes for commercial television news these days is rarely "journalism."

Greene poked a few hypocrisies of the modern U.S.A. in the eye and walked away.

Good for her. The U.S.A. is a nation of hypocrisy.





 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
92. Nope. She is now a CELEBRITY! -- Priceless.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 06:54 PM
Sep 2014

And how far she goes depends on how she plays it. She is invested in pot, and legalization is on the ballot. She went "all in." Her cause is promoted. And I think the cause can stand it. She could wind up a talking head somewhere, or a candidate for office.

What will the FCC do?

--imm

ablamj

(333 posts)
103. You Go Girl!
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 10:17 PM
Sep 2014

I'm not a smoker, but I support the right of all weed smokers to light up! She's a "Rock Star" of the movement now!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
108. But did she tell the truth? If not, then yes, that would be classless. I would give anything
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 11:02 PM
Sep 2014

to hear one of the Corporate Media puppets go on the air one day, say 'Fuck it, I can't tell these lies anymore, I won't participate in sending our military into another endless, brutal war. I QUIT!

Oh well, we can dream. Lying is Class in an upside down, Orwellian culture, but telling the truth with a little color, is classless? Do you really believe that?

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