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cui bono

(19,926 posts)
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 02:26 PM Oct 2014

35,000 Walruses Are All Crowded Together In One Spot — And It Signals Something Ominous

It's fucking real dammit. What the hell are they denying???




35,000 Walruses Are All Crowded Together In One Spot — And It Signals Something Ominous

Erin Brodwin
Oct. 1, 2014, 11:14 AM



Thousands of walruses are gathered together on one of the last places they have to rest in Alaska — the shore. As the ice they typically rely on for respite between hunts has all but disappeared, the giant animals are clambering to the coast in record numbers.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) photographed a gathering of 35,000 of the mammals five miles north of Point Lay, an Inupiat Eskimo village 700 miles northwest of Anchorage.

The retreat of the Alaskan sea ice north into Arctic Ocean water has accelerated in recent years. It's bad news for the Pacific walruses, which rely on it for everything from giving birth to diving down to reach the food below.

...

“It’s another remarkable sign of the dramatic environmental conditions changing as the result of sea ice loss,” Margaret Williams, managing director of the World Wildlife Fund's Arctic program, told The Guardian.

more...
http://www.businessinsider.com/35000-walruses-gathered-in-alaska-2014-10


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35,000 Walruses Are All Crowded Together In One Spot — And It Signals Something Ominous (Original Post) cui bono Oct 2014 OP
K&R! TeamPooka Oct 2014 #1
My question is "What will it look like when it's OUR turn for a mass species panic?"... NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #2
Yeah. Seems other species work as a team for the most part. cui bono Oct 2014 #5
"As go the walruses, so go we." I am the Walrus. Yavin4 Oct 2014 #32
I am the Walrus, and We Are All Together, Sitting on a Cornflake... nt bananas Oct 2014 #47
I'm buying property in Orlando. obxhead Oct 2014 #3
Right now I'm two miles from the beach...I'll retire on the water. Sancho Oct 2014 #15
I'm waiting for the snorkel tours of downtown Miami. obxhead Oct 2014 #17
Drowntown Miami. randome Oct 2014 #36
Really? They have ESP or something? How could they tell something.... Logical Oct 2014 #4
Read the article. cui bono Oct 2014 #6
It isn't 'about to happen'. Something bad is **happening** to them. Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #7
Ahh, I mad you mad? Sorry! Nap time? nt Logical Oct 2014 #9
What an excellent reply... Wait Wut Oct 2014 #10
Try reading the article next time leftynyc Oct 2014 #11
Tragic yet important story. lovemydog Oct 2014 #8
Looks like the line for the porta-potties at Coachella. bluesbassman Oct 2014 #12
Sadly, I don't think deniers are ashamed of anything. progressoid Oct 2014 #44
Burning Walrus is huge this time of year. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #13
LOL! That's funny! BKH70041 Oct 2014 #14
You should see Pier 39! yuiyoshida Oct 2014 #16
K&R for over-exposure! ReRe Oct 2014 #18
The time for crying is over. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2014 #19
Exactly. eom littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #22
It's not that I don't understand, but they don't care. One has to change their tactics, or die. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2014 #40
Looking for the Egg Man. lpbk2713 Oct 2014 #20
thats the best photo 1dogleft Oct 2014 #21
That's your takeaway? cui bono Oct 2014 #26
Gives a good sense of scale Scootaloo Oct 2014 #27
They're trying to tell us.. Veganhealedme Oct 2014 #23
If you don't find that shocking and alarming- KrazyinKS Oct 2014 #24
The shape they made is interesting LittleGirl Oct 2014 #25
Ha! I can see it now! randome Oct 2014 #39
Yeah LittleGirl Oct 2014 #41
It's called a mass "haulout" Sopkoviak Oct 2014 #28
"several thousand" isn't the same at 35 thousand Beaverhausen Oct 2014 #29
Thank you for that well researched and documented responce Sopkoviak Oct 2014 #33
do you call 35 of anything 'several'? Beaverhausen Oct 2014 #35
35 of something is officially.... A HERETIC I AM Oct 2014 #37
It's clear you never made it past the first sentence of the abstract. DesMoinesDem Oct 2014 #46
Jesus is melting the North Pole. God's Will. You'll never convince the dumbshit deniers valerief Oct 2014 #30
Gawd works in mysterious ways... blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #31
There was an earthquake not too far from Anchorage in the last week or two...? kentuck Oct 2014 #34
As a side note.... A HERETIC I AM Oct 2014 #38
I'm woried about disease. The ice stopped the growth of micro organisms. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #50
This should be the top story today flamingdem Oct 2014 #42
Every species will have its adjustments to make fit the parameters of Wall St. raouldukelives Oct 2014 #43
so depressing G_j Oct 2014 #45
Yes. The high percentage of responses that are jokes is unbelievable to me. cui bono Oct 2014 #51
This is one of the saddest things I have ever seen. Paper Roses Oct 2014 #48
Imagine if they evolve legs and take to the land... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #49
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. My question is "What will it look like when it's OUR turn for a mass species panic?"...
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 02:28 PM
Oct 2014

As go the walruses, so go we.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
15. Right now I'm two miles from the beach...I'll retire on the water.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:33 PM
Oct 2014

Flooding here in Florida happens more often, and those million dollar beach fronts will soon be fisheries.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
17. I'm waiting for the snorkel tours of downtown Miami.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:40 PM
Oct 2014

I use that here in Sarasota and people think I'm joking. Then I tell them I expect it in 30 years.

The just don't get it.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
36. Drowntown Miami.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:06 PM
Oct 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
7. It isn't 'about to happen'. Something bad is **happening** to them.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 02:42 PM
Oct 2014

"The retreat of the Alaskan sea ice north into Arctic Ocean water has accelerated in recent years. It's bad news for the Pacific walruses, which rely on it for everything from giving birth to diving down to reach the food below."

Being Logical is probably easier when you read past the headline

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
10. What an excellent reply...
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:12 PM
Oct 2014

...for someone that hadn't read the article and based their Logical comment on a stab in the dark.

bluesbassman

(19,370 posts)
12. Looks like the line for the porta-potties at Coachella.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:26 PM
Oct 2014


Seriously though, that is both an amazing and disturbing photo. Global warming deniers should feel ashamed when they view it.
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
27. Gives a good sense of scale
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:00 PM
Oct 2014

That many walruses in one place should be treated as a geographic feature. They're big animals, you know

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
24. If you don't find that shocking and alarming-
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:49 PM
Oct 2014

then your heart has frozen over. The artic ice may have melted, but the climate change deniers have hearts that are frozen.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
39. Ha! I can see it now!
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:34 PM
Oct 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
29. "several thousand" isn't the same at 35 thousand
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:07 PM
Oct 2014

and yes, at times of the year there is less ice, but if you read the article there is NO ICE for them to rest on.

 

Sopkoviak

(357 posts)
33. Thank you for that well researched and documented responce
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:29 PM
Oct 2014

To an obviously flawed and published scientific paper Beav.

They had me fooled for a sec.

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
46. It's clear you never made it past the first sentence of the abstract.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:13 PM
Oct 2014

In fact, the authors use of the phrase 'several thousand' in the abstract included 35,000 in one instance, as well as haulouts of an estimated 37,000 and 32,000 and 3 smaller (11,000-19,000) haulouts. That was in just one year. There are also mentions of other 30,000+ haulouts in that study. You could have easily found that out for yourself if you read past the first sentence.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
30. Jesus is melting the North Pole. God's Will. You'll never convince the dumbshit deniers
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:08 PM
Oct 2014

any differently.

kentuck

(111,078 posts)
34. There was an earthquake not too far from Anchorage in the last week or two...?
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:54 PM
Oct 2014

I'm thinking that earthquakes and volcanoes can let a lot of heat escape from beneath the earth, and beneath the ocean, and could cause the water temperature to change, and in doing so, confuses the fish and mammals that live in the ocean. They search for cooler waters and get lost.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
43. Every species will have its adjustments to make fit the parameters of Wall St.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:44 AM
Oct 2014

Just the cost of doing business. Some people are willing to help them and some are already far beyond disgusted.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
51. Yes. The high percentage of responses that are jokes is unbelievable to me.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 04:23 AM
Oct 2014

DU is no better than the Yahoo! comments section too much of the time lately.

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
48. This is one of the saddest things I have ever seen.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:01 PM
Oct 2014

We have ruined the planet and there is nothing the poor animals can do about it. We don't seem to be able to do anything about the state of the global environment that will be quick enough to save millions of animals.

Maybe I'm just too old to see things any other way. We are responsible for the annihilation of millions of animals and insects on this beautiful earth. I think I'm glad to be so old that I will not see the near future. My regret is that my children and grandchildren will suffer as do the other creatures that share our planet.

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