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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 06:32 AM Oct 2014

An Actor On The Way To A Family Funeral Was Surprised By The Words The Policeman Screamed At Him

http://www.upworthy.com/an-actor-on-the-way-to-a-family-funeral-was-surprised-by-the-words-the-policeman-screamed-at-him?c=upw1




Wendell Pierce: And the fact is... The fact is while we have this very comfortable, colloquial debate about it, when the lights go out and I go out in the street and I get behind the wheel of my car, the most dangerous moment I ever have in my life is when a police officer pulls me over. Every black man in America knows that when that happens, there's actually a possibility his life may come to an end and that shouldn't happen. It actually happened to me in Louisiana, dressed as I am, going to my uncle's funeral, two toddlers in the back. I had just picked up my cousin from Chicago. A 100 degrees on the road in Louisiana, I'm pulled over and I sat there waiting for the cop to come. I have a habit of always taking my wallet out and putting it on the dash to make sure he doesn't think this is going for a gun. I sat there and sat there and sat there and I realized he hadn't come. Air conditioner on, 100 degrees and I look in the mirror and I see... That's all I heard.

As I turned down the window you hear, "Mother fucker get out that car, I'm gonna blow your fucking head off." Now he didn't have the training to say, "I'm going to come up to the car." I have to tell these toddlers, "Be cool. Everything's fine. Uncle Wendell's going to get out of the car. Everyone don't move." I put my hands up, get out the car, opened the door from outside. But I told the officer, "Why didn't you use your P. A.? Simple, get in your car..." "Well why didn't you get out of your car?" I said "I had the window's up, it's 100 degrees, and I had the air conditioner on. I can't hear you." That's poor training, that he didn't know that I wasn't going to be able to hear him in the car. He's going to fire. So it's that sort of incident that happens too often all the time, that white America has to understand that Wendell Allen in New Orleans, Mr. Garner in Staten Island, Michael Brown in Ohio, is a constant all over this country. And if we're going to sit here and pretend that we are post-racial, you have to realize that I can't afford for your belief or denial that my life isn't in danger
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An Actor On The Way To A Family Funeral Was Surprised By The Words The Policeman Screamed At Him (Original Post) eridani Oct 2014 OP
Powerful. K&R nt myrna minx Oct 2014 #1
That was very chilling. AngryOldDem Oct 2014 #2
Everyday tooeyeten Oct 2014 #3
Yep. Unfortunately. n/t AngryOldDem Oct 2014 #60
"As a white woman..." Rozlee Oct 2014 #74
Good point. n/t AngryOldDem Oct 2014 #83
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #4
Post-racial, wouldn't doubt that's a Luntz term. It surely looks as if the right-wing is fomenting Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #16
You are right. 'Post racial' xxqqqzme Oct 2014 #82
Yeah, no kidding. calimary Oct 2014 #40
Some of them think electing President Obama Enthusiast Oct 2014 #48
Sounds like a good thing to me! calimary Oct 2014 #65
Well, me too. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #72
+1 Liberalynn Oct 2014 #5
Extremely powerful betsuni Oct 2014 #6
rec & kick MerryBlooms Oct 2014 #7
Yes, that is just the bottom line that is sadly proven again and again. nt LisaLynne Oct 2014 #9
Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #32
Unfortunately the people who need to understand this, will just take offense Scootaloo Oct 2014 #76
Chilling statement, many people need to hear this. LisaLynne Oct 2014 #8
That's the problem pscot Oct 2014 #18
That's the difference between not understanding...... daleanime Oct 2014 #22
Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #33
Its stupid and sad and its the truth. We are not post racial. Not by a long shot. marble falls Oct 2014 #10
a lot of privileged people, Mr. Pierce heaven05 Oct 2014 #11
K&R n/t Feral Child Oct 2014 #12
DU rec...nt SidDithers Oct 2014 #13
Wait a second... knightmaar Oct 2014 #14
It happens every fugging day of the week malaise Oct 2014 #15
well I'm an old white lady vlyons Oct 2014 #17
Do you smile and call them Sir JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #29
never happened yet vlyons Oct 2014 #64
It probably never will JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #67
What is it like, knowing there is something you can do? It's hard to just not be black. jtuck004 Oct 2014 #37
I am also an old white lady. RebelOne Oct 2014 #44
It's difficult to smile when they are standing g behind you yardwork Oct 2014 #50
I am an older white lady too Tumbulu Oct 2014 #53
Happy for you. AngryOldDem Oct 2014 #59
I have no illusions about cops vlyons Oct 2014 #66
But for some it doesn't matter how they act. AngryOldDem Oct 2014 #73
Police paranoia for sure, but also a paranoia fuelled by a nation of citizens armed to the teeth. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #19
An interesting way to frame racist, ineffective and finally shitty policing.... Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #20
It is more complex than folks want to believe. Surely a nation of citizens without gun control laws, Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #23
So statistically speaking ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #34
You would think so Marrah_G Oct 2014 #71
It has never been safer to be a policeman hack89 Oct 2014 #41
I truly wish folks would stop being outraged, digitally speaking, at every suggestion that there is Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #43
When those "suggestions" are tossed out there with no evidence hack89 Oct 2014 #45
"instant noodle outrage"? ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #61
"Yours is a bullshit excuse for police abuse of minorities." - hack89 Scootaloo Oct 2014 #77
Have you ever seen me voice much support for cops? hack89 Oct 2014 #80
I think that it contributes to a culture of fear and PTSD Tumbulu Oct 2014 #54
As long as we keep referring to others by the color of their Skin, PeoViejo Oct 2014 #21
No, so long as we stereotype and subjugate others based on the color of their skin we remain racist. Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #25
unnn devaluing people based off skin color keeps our society racist ... no a recognition of ... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #47
I actually wrote about this man's story in a reply on another tblue37 Oct 2014 #24
When a policeperson points his weapon at you the clear implication is that rhett o rick Oct 2014 #26
K&R Solly Mack Oct 2014 #27
K & R. Chilling. BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #28
Hidden body cams my or may not be protection against police brutality. ladjf Oct 2014 #30
Such a profound reminder... TeeYiYi Oct 2014 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #52
Wendell Pierce is an interesting actor rock Oct 2014 #35
Wendell Pierce is being too kind. progressoid Oct 2014 #36
The only solution is to take their guns away, tazers too. Kalidurga Oct 2014 #38
Warning: I'm going to use the word chickenshit, shit, or shitty alot in this post. locdlib Oct 2014 #39
all of these stories make me demigoddess Oct 2014 #42
The actions of other white people shouldn't make you ashamed to be white. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #62
A tactic of the Right has been to claim racism doesn't exist anymore.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #46
In front of the kids too.. I'm a father of 3... I pray I'll never have to handle this situation but uponit7771 Oct 2014 #49
Anabolic steroid abuse sulphurdunn Oct 2014 #51
The hatred spewed at President Obama Tumbulu Oct 2014 #55
Exactly! n/t marew Oct 2014 #58
kick for truth Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #56
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2014 #57
Body Cams and Dash Cams...both. I'm sure the lawsuits they are paying out would likely libdem4life Oct 2014 #63
Kick,kick,kicked&Recommended! butterfly77 Oct 2014 #68
I watched this.. I've told a bunch of people mountain grammy Oct 2014 #69
Wendell Pierce is an outstanding actor. BlueMTexpat Oct 2014 #70
I Saw That Show When He Said It ProfessorGAC Oct 2014 #75
He should have taken down the policeman's badge number, and at a later time reported him. There is still_one Oct 2014 #78
He was excellent. Earlier that night, Maher lumped Wendell in with ecstatic Oct 2014 #79
Excellent that he is invited to tell this account. We need a groundswell on this issue. Chemisse Oct 2014 #81
Holy Fuck. blackspade Oct 2014 #84

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
2. That was very chilling.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 06:48 AM
Oct 2014

What did it for me was when he pantomimed the cop coming at him -- yelling and waving his gun.

"I look in my mirror and I see..."

As a white woman, I can't imagine what I would feel if I saw the same thing in my rear view, and given who I am, I probably never will.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
74. "As a white woman..."
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 01:17 PM
Oct 2014

Maybe as any woman, especially if you're poor. Cops also prey a great deal on females, especially poor females and minority females. As a poor Hispanic single mother, waiting at bus stops, there would be times when cops would cruise by and would stop and leer at me, asking me if I was alright, if 'that guy was bothering me,' etc., etc. My daughter was stalked for TEN YEARS by a cop. She dated him briefly for a month or so, then realized he was a jerk and dumped him. We reported his harassment to Internal Affairs, who declared it was a he said/she said situation and didn't do a damn thing. He had his buddies following the cars of guys she dated, reporting on her whereabouts and letting him know where she was at. She'd move and in no time, he'd learn where she was and be cruising by her place. Many of these guys are domestic terrorists. And far from stopping them, their PDs enable them. My daughter didn't get any peace until she moved away from the state when she got married.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
16. Post-racial, wouldn't doubt that's a Luntz term. It surely looks as if the right-wing is fomenting
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:01 AM
Oct 2014

a race war on American soil.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
82. You are right. 'Post racial'
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 10:00 PM
Oct 2014

what the hell does that mean anyway? After racial? It is meaningless. It probably was assembled by luntz, faxed over to faux snooze for their continual use.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
40. Yeah, no kidding.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:48 PM
Oct 2014

So frustrating. "Post-racial." I will admit, though, that when Barack Obama was elected the first time, I allowed myself to entertain the thought that maybe, Just MAYBE, America had grown up a little, and gotten over it, and moved forward. I allowed myself to celebrate what appeared to be a first-class outward sign that we'd all finally, at long last, gotten beyond the race issue. MAN was that wrong! MAN was I wrong!!! No impersonal "mistakes were made" crap outta me. I made that mistake. Got it shocked out of me within the first weeks when I saw the kind of shit that this President was forced to deal with and deep-down, the opposition (at least it seemed to me) was deeply and systemically rooted in old, shitty, evil, awful racism. Racism that's not just some leftover. Racism that is alive and well and inflamed and cancerous and seems to be spreading like the fucking Ebola virus.

It's disgusting and depressing as hell. I wanted to believe that we had FINALLY gotten beyond our systemic racism. We'd just proved it, hadn't we? A SOLID and unrefutable majority voted this man into the Presidency. Knew he was black and still voted for him. Saw and knew he was black and it didn't matter.

And we haven't.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
48. Some of them think electing President Obama
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:54 PM
Oct 2014

was an insult to the dear memory of the Confederate States of America. Seriously.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
65. Sounds like a good thing to me!
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:48 PM
Oct 2014

Especially if the "dear memory of the Confederate States of America" is insulted. Good! The mere idea of the "Confederate States of America" is offensive to me.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
72. Well, me too.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 04:27 AM
Oct 2014

Some of these idiots celebrate it by flying the flag. I live in Ohio and see the stars and bars in the back window of many pickup trucks. The only thing it signifies is racism.

betsuni

(25,440 posts)
6. Extremely powerful
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:43 AM
Oct 2014

When I saw that episode and heard that story it was a hot day but I got the chills and shuddered, because it's so common.

MerryBlooms

(11,761 posts)
7. rec & kick
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:51 AM
Oct 2014

"And if we're going to sit here and pretend that we are post-racial, you have to realize that I can't afford for your belief or denial that my life isn't in danger."

amen

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
76. Unfortunately the people who need to understand this, will just take offense
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:24 PM
Oct 2014

And I mean the "liberals" who smugly pat themselves on the back for "not seeing race."

pscot

(21,024 posts)
18. That's the problem
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:11 AM
Oct 2014

The people who should hear it either can't hear it, refuse to hear it or are pre-disposed to see Pierce as the offending party. And there really seems to be no way to get through to them.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
33. Yep ...
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:38 AM
Oct 2014

It won't surprise me when "that DU" shows up to say, "well ... if Pierce had just obeyed the officer, the officer would not have pulled his gun. Problem solved."

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
11. a lot of privileged people, Mr. Pierce
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:16 AM
Oct 2014

will never understand this terror because they won't face it, EVER, by virtue of their skin color. You're right sir, post racial is an illusion created by those whose privilege is everything and their conscious and unconscious oppression is denied, still, because of that privilege. America is irredeemably racist and I fear that it will never not be a major factor in the life of any minority in this country, especially black and brown minorities.

knightmaar

(748 posts)
14. Wait a second...
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:41 AM
Oct 2014

... I thought only "a really stupid black man who wants to get shot" gets out of the car.

So now, if you get out of the car, you get shot for being aggressive and if you stay in the car, you get shot for not getting out?

It must so awesome being black in the U.S. that police have to compensate for the awesomeness this way just to even things up for white people.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
17. well I'm an old white lady
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:10 AM
Oct 2014

and I always smile and tell the cop (I call him "Officer, Sir&quot that my Daddy was also a cop, which is true. The highway patrol is generally better trained and more polite than cops is small rural towns. The ones in small towns wear flak jackets and sometimes seem very annoyed and arrogant.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
64. never happened yet
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:45 PM
Oct 2014

but if it did that would be the perfect time. I'd rather be humble and eat crow than eat bullets.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
37. What is it like, knowing there is something you can do? It's hard to just not be black.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:14 PM
Oct 2014

For some folks, anyway.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
44. I am also an old white lady.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:10 PM
Oct 2014

Yes, I don't smile but say innocently, "What did I do?" I have been stopped for speeding in my small town just outside of Atlanta three times, but never got a ticket, just a warning to watch my speed.

yardwork

(61,585 posts)
50. It's difficult to smile when they are standing g behind you
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 03:07 PM
Oct 2014

... screaming that they're going to blow your head off.

It's important for those of us who have more options to recognize that not everybody is given those options.

This man didn't have the chance to look at the officer and smile.

Tumbulu

(6,272 posts)
53. I am an older white lady too
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 05:03 PM
Oct 2014

and have been stopped 2 x's in the past 8 years. Both times I was SCREAMED at by really angry white policemen. The first stop I was given a ticket for turning left at 9:59 am at a place that said no left turns from 7-10 am......plus I was screamed at- "what are you doing here?! " As though they thought that I was someone else....I had no idea why I wasn't supposed to be driving down a public road- and I do drive a bit slow, but not slow enough to be screamed at!. And my watch is 5 minutes fast so that I get to places on time......

The second time I was out on a country road between the town and my farm. Had just been helping with the shearing of sheep and my back was all seized up. I did an incomplete stop at a 4 way stop with no one on any of the other roads. But the highway patrolman just went off at me- how come he did not see my head turn to the left or right (hmm, you move 225 sheep through shoots for 2 days and let's see who easily you can turn your head!) how dare I not come to a complete stop! I had my daughter with me and she got really scared.

After these too incidents, which I believe were triggered by my very white hair, I said to myself "if they are this violent in speech to me- what are they doing to the poor people from Mexico and the African Americans?"

I am just aghast at the amping up of the violence of the police. And I am from a liberal county in N CA, no less.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
59. Happy for you.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 06:08 PM
Oct 2014

But for a lot of people, smiling and talking up the cop don't work. Some (I won't generalize -- yet -- and say "all&quot cops nowadays work from the presumption that everyone (especially minorities) are out to get them. Therefore, no presumption of innocence.

If you haven't already, watch the Maher clip, and then ask yourself honestly if a smile and a hail-fellow-well-met attitude would have worked with this actor and his nephews.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
66. I have no illusions about cops
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:58 PM
Oct 2014

remember, my Daddy was a cop, and he was definitely a racist. How well I remember his cop buddies commentary about how they beat up on "wire heads." Disgusting. I was a teen-ager then (mid-60s) and quite embarrassed by such remarks. But I was way too afraid of my Dad to say anything. My point is that it's always a good idea to be extremely courteous to everyone, especially cops. Most of them are good people, but some of them have power issues. And if I get stopped, I don't want to discover which is which after it's too late.

A cop can arrest you for any damn reason, or no reason at all.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
73. But for some it doesn't matter how they act.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 06:48 AM
Oct 2014

Take the example of the guy who was shot at the gas station for no good reason -- he was polite as the day is long and all it got him were bullets in the gut.

There is a violent, aggressive attitude by cops toward some in the community. That's the problem.

Parents shouldn't have to have "the talk" with their kids about how to deal with people who are supposedly public servants, in society to protect and assist.

And I would amend your last sentence to read, "A cop can SHOOT you for any damn reason, or no reason at all." That was what was going through Wendell Pierce's mind that day he was stopped.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
19. Police paranoia for sure, but also a paranoia fuelled by a nation of citizens armed to the teeth.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:18 AM
Oct 2014

The fact there are more guns than people is not forgotten by those that have to face those 300,000,000 plus and counting guns every day, even as it is forgotten by everyone else.

Concealed, open carry, legal, illegal, responsible,irresponsible, sane, insane, pistol, rifle, shotgun, imitation, sniper, assault, military, semi auto, full auto, armor piercing, body shredding, the folks all have guns.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. An interesting way to frame racist, ineffective and finally shitty policing....
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:26 AM
Oct 2014

'The folks all have guns'. The folks. All of them have guns. They. Them. The other. The folks. They all have guns. Like the gun Michael Brown had?
The gentleman telling his story in the OP was unarmed as well. For fuck sake.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
23. It is more complex than folks want to believe. Surely a nation of citizens without gun control laws,
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:54 AM
Oct 2014

armed to the teeth and armed at any moment unknown to police, has to be part of the equation when discussing police conduct?

I am 99% with the OP on the stated facts, but there are always two sides to a story, I need to hear the other side, even if the other side is a ludicrous side, it informs the debate, but that is just me.

The general atmosphere of gun loving and violence loving America is one I would not care much to serve and protect without a healthy dose of paranoia.

Let me patrol Canada or the UK any day over NRA controlled America.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
34. So statistically speaking ...
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:43 AM
Oct 2014

shouldn't "those that have to face those 300,000,000 plus and counting guns every day" be more "on alert" when stopping white males?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
41. It has never been safer to be a policeman
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:52 PM
Oct 2014

if all those guns represented a real threat, shouldn't we have seen a huge spike in police shootings?

Yours is a bullshit excuse for police abuse of minorities.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
43. I truly wish folks would stop being outraged, digitally speaking, at every suggestion that there is
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:58 PM
Oct 2014

more to think about beyond the instant noodle outrage.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
45. When those "suggestions" are tossed out there with no evidence
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:33 PM
Oct 2014

or in this case, in the face of evidence that says the opposite, then don't be surprised if folks wonder if you are simply pushing a personal agenda.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
61. "instant noodle outrage"? ...
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:15 PM
Oct 2014

Wow.

I think the point Pierce and most of the outraged posters are saying is this conduct isn't "instant", no "noodlish" ... it is persist and real for people of color.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
77. "Yours is a bullshit excuse for police abuse of minorities." - hack89
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:26 PM
Oct 2014

Well, that's... unexpected.

Tumbulu

(6,272 posts)
54. I think that it contributes to a culture of fear and PTSD
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 05:07 PM
Oct 2014

I think a very big way to reduce police violence would be to disarm the population at large. Then the police would not all need to be arms either.

It would be a win win.

I do think that police hatred/fear or minorities is irrefutable and absolutely needs to be changed.

I would love to see unregulated guns removed from society at large. I think it would be significant.

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
21. As long as we keep referring to others by the color of their Skin,
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:35 AM
Oct 2014

we will remain a racist society.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
25. No, so long as we stereotype and subjugate others based on the color of their skin we remain racist.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 10:41 AM
Oct 2014

Skin color is a feature that should mean no more than eye or hair color, but our society seems to be eons from embracing that simple fact. In the meantime, it does no good to pretend that the mere labeling is the problem. It's much more ingrained than that.

uponit7771

(90,323 posts)
47. unnn devaluing people based off skin color keeps our society racist ... no a recognition of ...
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:52 PM
Oct 2014

...differences IMHO

tblue37

(65,269 posts)
24. I actually wrote about this man's story in a reply on another
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 10:12 AM
Oct 2014

thread a few days ago, to illustrate how cops often approach even obviously upstanding black men as though they are dangerous criminals in situations where they would be polite to a white person.

The screaming, cursing, and manhandling of black citizens by cops is their default behavior, not something they do only when the person they are interacting with is a dangerous lowlife criminal, whereas if the person is white, the cop's demeanor is usually not that aggressive and disrespectful unless the person *looks* like a dangerous person--or at least like someone so poor that they could not possibly get after the cop legally for abusing them.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
26. When a policeperson points his weapon at you the clear implication is that
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 10:42 AM
Oct 2014

if you don't obey you will die. That's extreme for other than know dangerous criminals. This case is a good example. "Mother fucker get out that car, I'm gonna blow your fucking head off." Clearly the policeman believes that he has the right to blow the head off this "mother fucker" for simply not complying to his order. This officer should be fired and if not, made to continue his job without a weapon for 6 months.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
28. K & R. Chilling.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:02 AM
Oct 2014

Although I have never been mistreated by the police to the extent Wendell Davis and all Black Americans have been, I'm Asian American, and to the police in Los Angeles, I'm money.

Asian Americans have gotten the stigma that we're bad drivers with deep pockets. My son, who is the product of a White and Asian but who looks White, did a stint in parking enforcement in some small Mall a few years back (he has the right height and bulk). Anyway, he regularly came in contact with police officers who had no clue he was half Asian, so they let their guard down.

They told him that if he wanted to meet his quota (although they deny there is such a thing - yeah, right) he should shadow Asian drivers. He was told that Asians are horrible drivers but they have deep pockets and they always pay up.

My personal experience with racial profiling goes like this: when I was leaving the parking lot of a local Stater Bros in our neighborhood, I saw a B&W squad car parked along the street near where I exited. I leave the parking lot and begin to drive, but as I do, I see the squad pull away from the curb. Thinking nothing of it (never had a ticket in my life and have never been pulled over), I continue to drive while I listen to some music. Then I glance in my rearview and see the squad car right behind me. Curious - and unwilling to claim paranoia - I take a longer route to get home and ... they follow - all the way to my house where they finally parked across the street in front of our neighbors' house.

I pull up on my driveway, park, and get out. I look curiously at them with an expression (which they might nor might not have seen) of confusion. Instead of driving off, the cop behind the wheel lowered his window and gives me this big fat smirk. He seemed to want to let me know, "Yes, we've been following you." Till this day, that has bothered me - and that's been about ten years ago.

For some years now, Latinos are regularly pulled over for no reason whatsoever. There is definitely racial profiling going on, but there's a different reason for pulling over Blacks, Latinos, and Asians.

Blacks are pulled over to harass and purely out of racism.

Latinos are pulled over to intimidate - so they know who's the boss in town.

Asians are pulled over for quick payouts.

When President Clinton came out to lobby for more funds for more police officers, long before my personal experience, I instinctively asked myself, WHY? Why would any non-White American want more bullies to harass them on the streets?

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
30. Hidden body cams my or may not be protection against police brutality.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:10 AM
Oct 2014

Citizens need the protection of a ProCam device on their person at all times. However, if the cops were to discover the camera, odds are more likely that they would become violent.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
31. Such a profound reminder...
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:17 AM
Oct 2014

...that racism is a relentless, every day scourge for blacks in America.

There is nothing that triggers debilitating fear in me more quickly than the sight of cop lights in my rear view mirror; so disturbing in fact, that I have no doubt that one day it might cause a heart attack in me.

Here's the thing... I'm white. I have blonde hair, blue eyes AND I'm female. So, if cops scare me this bad, I can only try to imagine the fear my black brothers and sisters must feel.

This video is a good reminder that something so frightening to me, would be more than 1000 times worse if I were black.

TYY

Response to TeeYiYi (Reply #31)

progressoid

(49,961 posts)
36. Wendell Pierce is being too kind.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:57 AM
Oct 2014

This isn't just about training officers to pull people over correctly. This is about training officers (and the rest of America for that matter) not to see every Black man as a criminal packing a TEC-9.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
38. The only solution is to take their guns away, tazers too.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:25 PM
Oct 2014

If there is a known situation of gunfire they need to send in a special unit and only that one unit gets guns. Sorry, but they brought it on themselves.

locdlib

(176 posts)
39. Warning: I'm going to use the word chickenshit, shit, or shitty alot in this post.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:41 PM
Oct 2014

When racist chickenshit officers are trained by racist chickenshit trainers, shit like this happens. These racist shitty, little fraidy-cat officers pull people over for no reason, and when officer chickenshit racist who is also a fraidy-cat realizes he has no reason for stopping a person for driving other than the fact that the driver is black, well, officer chickenshit then resorts to brute force and violence. It's a formula that never, ever fails: chickenshit/racist officer trainers + chickenshit racist/officer wannabe = chickenshit law enforcement. Until some major changes are made in this shitty country, shit like this will keep happening.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
42. all of these stories make me
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:55 PM
Oct 2014

ashamed to be white. And now that I am too old to run out there and protest I am sorry not to be able to. This stuff should not go on in our country.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
46. A tactic of the Right has been to claim racism doesn't exist anymore....
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:36 PM
Oct 2014

They say it with the idea that it's silly to keep things like Affirmative Action and Voting Rights on the books.

Now with Obama in the White House we see racism is alive and well.

It's just a smaller portion of the population.

A minority.

And because they see their ideas are unpopular they are in a panic. The Right has come to associate racism as a part of Southern culture and heritage and they feel it's something they need to preserve along with tea parties in dresses composed of concentric rings to make women look like their mode of transport is the same as a Dalek.



uponit7771

(90,323 posts)
49. In front of the kids too.. I'm a father of 3... I pray I'll never have to handle this situation but
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:55 PM
Oct 2014

... if I do remain as calm or even calmer so I don't get killed

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
51. Anabolic steroid abuse
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 04:44 PM
Oct 2014

and all the poor judgment, aggression and violence that goes with it is becoming a serious health problem in many police departments. Part of the solution is to not give them military weapons, is to require routine drug testing and psychological evaluations.

Tumbulu

(6,272 posts)
55. The hatred spewed at President Obama
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 05:15 PM
Oct 2014

has made it very clear that we are anything BUT post racist! We seem to be having some sort of resurgence of it, in such a terrible way.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
63. Body Cams and Dash Cams...both. I'm sure the lawsuits they are paying out would likely
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:25 PM
Oct 2014

pay for them. Every citizen needs to know that someone is watching those who "serve and protect" because we all pay their salaries.

mountain grammy

(26,605 posts)
69. I watched this.. I've told a bunch of people
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 12:50 AM
Oct 2014

We all have to talk about this all the time, all the time, whether people are listening or not. We have to keep it out in the open, or, I swear, people will start to "disappear."

And google the show.. he responded in another discussion regarding violence. His response will send chills down your spine. About an era where people didn't talk about it and did disappear.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
70. Wendell Pierce is an outstanding actor.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:05 AM
Oct 2014

I loved him in "The Wire" and again in "Treme." I haven't seen his more recent work, but if it is to the same high standard, we are all blessed to have him.

That such a treasure would ever have to be so afraid in the land of his birth says volumes about how far America still has to go. Yes, STILL. In the 21st century, no less ...!

ProfessorGAC

(64,951 posts)
75. I Saw That Show When He Said It
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:19 PM
Oct 2014

I thought he was absolutely great because he did is so calmly and matter of factly. This is what happened, here's what i think he did wrong, and here's why i think it's systemic.

There is no good argument against his point.

still_one

(92,109 posts)
78. He should have taken down the policeman's badge number, and at a later time reported him. There is
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:28 PM
Oct 2014

absolutely NO Excuse for that.

ecstatic

(32,673 posts)
79. He was excellent. Earlier that night, Maher lumped Wendell in with
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:30 PM
Oct 2014

Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson, and Michael Vick (about 30 seconds into the clip).

Chemisse

(30,806 posts)
81. Excellent that he is invited to tell this account. We need a groundswell on this issue.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 06:53 AM
Oct 2014

We need to hear of so many incidents that we will be compelled to fix the problem.

Police training, constant accountability via cameras, and an independent group to oversee police forces and dole out consequences.

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