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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 07:57 AM Oct 2014

The US Just Approved A $600 Million Tank Ammunition Deal For Iraq's Embattled Government

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-us-approves-sale-of-600-million-in-tank-ammunition-to-iraq-2014-10

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government on Monday said it had approved the sale to Iraq of $600 million in tank ammunition manufactured by General Dynamics Corp <gd.n>, saying it would help the Iraqi government establish an integrated ground defense capability.

Congress now has 30 days to block the sale, although such action is rare since arms deals are usually vetted carefully before a congressional notification.

The Pentagon's Defense Security Cooperation Agency, or DSCA, notified lawmakers that the State Department had approved the sale of 10,000 M831 120m, high-explosive anti-tank munitions, 10,000 M865 120mm kinetic energy warheads and 26,000 other munitions, as well as logistics services.

DSCA said the prime contractor would be General Dynamics, maker of the M1A1 Abrams tank and the requested munitions.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/r-us-approves-sale-of-600-million-in-tank-ammunition-to-iraq-2014-10#ixzz3GmPtoelQ
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The US Just Approved A $600 Million Tank Ammunition Deal For Iraq's Embattled Government (Original Post) xchrom Oct 2014 OP
Want to take bets on how long it takes before the ammo gets to ISIS? hobbit709 Oct 2014 #1
Yay! More bloodletting! MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #2
Who among us has any idea of the cost per item of ammunition? HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #3
If GD proposed logistics support it would be them providing it. tammywammy Oct 2014 #8
ok, maybe it's implied, but it isn't apparent to me. HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #11
Does that include shipping? Or, is there "free shipping" option for orders of over 50,000? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #12
Maybe they could invest in some soldiers who'll stand and fight, instead of GD rakeoffs? hatrack Oct 2014 #4
Who is making these decisions? Frustratedlady Oct 2014 #5
Defense contractors negotiate in conjunction with the DoD tammywammy Oct 2014 #9
And *another* round of food stamp cuts woo me with science Oct 2014 #6
ISIS thanks you very much. kentuck Oct 2014 #7
K&R woo me with science Oct 2014 #10
Yay, more war! Cause that's how we roll! Initech Oct 2014 #13
kick woo me with science Oct 2014 #14
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
2. Yay! More bloodletting!
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 08:03 AM
Oct 2014

There's no better way to spend a half-billion than on propping up failed, hypercorrupt governments with implements of death that they'll resell or abandon.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. Who among us has any idea of the cost per item of ammunition?
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 08:13 AM
Oct 2014

If it was 600 million for 46k rounds of ammunition it would be roughly $13,000 per shell.

What's the dollar value of that quiet little clause..."as well as logistical services"?


Who is the sub that's going to be handling those logistics? Our dear friends at KBR?






tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
8. If GD proposed logistics support it would be them providing it.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:17 AM
Oct 2014

It would be highly unlikely they'd contract out routine logistics support to someone like KBR. Defense contractors such as GD has their own logistics personnel.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
12. Does that include shipping? Or, is there "free shipping" option for orders of over 50,000?
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 06:49 PM
Oct 2014

Do they allow coupons?

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
4. Maybe they could invest in some soldiers who'll stand and fight, instead of GD rakeoffs?
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 08:25 AM
Oct 2014

You know, little things like two Iraqi Army divisions of about 30,000 men being routed by 800 ISIS soldiers back in June?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/11/mosul-isis-gunmen-middle-east-states

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
5. Who is making these decisions?
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:04 AM
Oct 2014

I wonder how many congresscritters own stock in these manufacturers?

How about our hungry kids, schools in need of funds, infrastructure crumbling, etc.

Let's get our priorities lined up. If Iraq wants equipment, let them pay for it.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
9. Defense contractors negotiate in conjunction with the DoD
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:21 AM
Oct 2014

And then foreign military sales are approved by the State Dept before Congressional notification.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
6. And *another* round of food stamp cuts
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:10 AM
Oct 2014

just signed by our Democratic president! And a farm bill based on "pension smoothing"!




And we get to pay a TRILLION for new nukes!

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