Warren Democrats: Wealthier, whiter, and often more male

[Ykcutnek]

Elizabeth Warren may be a populist, but her supporters include the elite.

That’s the takeaway from a new ABC News/Washington Post poll of the emerging Democratic presidential field, which suggests that supporters of the Massachusetts senator skew whiter, wealthier, more educated, and more male.

More interesting is the demographic breakdown. Warren outperforms among liberals, but she also does dramatically better with wealthier Democrats, those with college degrees, whites, and men.

The results are stark. Among those making more than $50,000 a year, 16% say they would support Warren if the Democratic primary were held today. Just 6% of those who make less than $50,000 say the same.

On racial lines, 16% of whites say they’d vote for Warren, compared to just 4% of nonwhites. Meanwhile, Warren captures 20% of college graduates, and just 5% of those who lack a degree. And she gets 14% of men, versus 7% of women.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/warren-democrats-wealthier-whiter-and-often-more-male

[JustAnotherGen]

1. Not surprised

I personally find her hard to relate to. I'm in the the non white, female, collegiate level of education, and affluent demographic.

She's really going to have to do a great deal of out outreach to other groups on their issues - and how they have experienced America.

[MannyGoldstein]

2. Your title forgot "more likely to have college degrees"nt

[Ykcutnek]

4. Used the title from MSNBC. nt

[Bluenorthwest]

3. Not surprising. She was a hard core Ronald Reagan trickle down advocate, a merciless Republican

who supported the deadly, ignorant Reagan policy of ignoring HIV/AIDS for year after year. When Liz voted for Reagan's second term he had yet to mention the deaths of over 20,000 Americans from that virus. She was all for continuing a policy that was spreading a deadly virus all over the world and doing nothing at all to help the sick and nothing at all to stem the tide of the pandemic.
After watching Straight America have a meltdown over a single death of a tourist who came here sick I wonder why any of them would support her. What her Party did was unforgivable. She supported that hateful policy all the way through Bush.

[JustAnotherGen]

7. Think Progress 'article'

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/04/27/3431303/warren-left-gop/

Warren has quickly become a populist hero to liberals. Stephanopoulos, host of ABC’s The Week, noted something in her background that “might surprise” her supporters: the fact that she has voted Republican in the past, and was a registered Republican in Pennsylvania from 1991 to 1996. Warren said she left the party after that because she felt it was siding more and more with Wall Street:

I was an independent. I was with the GOP for a while because I really thought that it was a party that was principled in its conservative approach to economics and to markets. And I feel like the GOP party just left that. They moved to a party that said, “No, it’s not about a level playing field. It’s now about a field that’s gotten tilted.” And they really stood up for the big financial institutions when the big financial institutions are just hammering middle class American families. I just feel like that’s a party that moved way, way away.

I really need to know who she sided with in 1994. And she may have to explain how she was willing to demonize an entire group of women (who were in fact doing no harm) with that vote in 1994 - for her precious 'conservative' financial approach.

And she also needs to explain what took her so long. I mean - I know my parents knew the day Reagan was elected that it was going to be a disaster for America.

My mom and Warren are about the same age, same demographic - my mom was an Exec VP of a hotel management company (collegiate level white woman in an executive position at that time was a ceiling smasher) - and in 1994 she firmly sided with young black women.

[CANDO]

27. My mother is Warren's age...

And she's a bat shit crazy conservative. Kudos to EW for transforming. I don't understand the vilification. My 1st presidential vote was for Reagan in his reelection in 84. It was within a few years from there that I learned more about the world around me(economics, politics) and I realized I was not a Republican. Even middle aged adults can transform their viewpoints and change their voting as well. Why vilify someone when it helps if/when they join us?

[JustAnotherGen]

29. It's perspective

And what one's 'place' was in America in 1994.

If you don't understand it - it's because you weren't the target. I hold anyone who supported Newt Gingrinch's crew the same arm's length away.

I'm sure she's not taking it personally - just as Clinton's Goldwater Girl and WalMart supporting background puts her in the same corner with me giving her a long sideways glance. Clinton isn't taking it personally.


Neither one is a person I can relate to - at all.

I guess I don't understand why it's vilification . . . We are all different and it's okay to not like everyone or hold everyone in the same regard.

[MannyGoldstein]

11. Are supporters of Hillary awash in the blood of slaughtered Iraqi innocents?

Hundreds of thousands of slaughtered Iraqi innocents?

Was anyone who voted for her in the 2008 primaries all for continuing a policy of murderous mayhem?

Or was Warren, as a housewife in Texas at the time she voted for Reagan, more responsible for making good decisions than a politician with tremendous power and decades of experience?

[JustAnotherGen]

12. Those are good questions

Don't know about her supporters - but her hands certainly are.

That's one I would have to hold my nose and vote for if she were to win the primary.

But what do I know - I voted for Edwards - since he was the only person talking about poverty in 2007/early 2008 - prior to the financial melt down.

[MannyGoldstein]

16. For the record... I don't think Hillary's supporters

have blood on their hands, either.

But that poster keeps characterizing Sen Warren in a certain way, without applying the same test to others.

[Bluenorthwest]

19. That poster voted for Barack Obama in a hotly contested primary

He was preferable to Hillary in spite of some very unsavory campaign moments around LGBT issues. By far. Because she's pretty shitty in that regard, she has good press but it is wafer thin in actual weight.

I am not characterizing Warren, I am stating the facts of her political history.
What is a characterization is to call her a 'housewife' during her Republican years, up until the mid 90's when she made millions of dollars in various professional works during that time.

She should be able to very easily address these things. She could use her past as part of a great narrative of progress as a person and citizen away from bad policy and inequality and toward a Democratic future. It could be gold. It writes itself.
Being defensive about actual facts is not a winning tactic.

[Erose999]

34. Lets not forget that Hillary was once registered as a Republican too.

[Bluenorthwest]

18. That should be discussed. Do not mistake the fact that I want Warren's background discussed honestly

for some advocacy for another. What I object to is the bullshit, like calling Warren 'a housewife' when she amassed 13 million dollars in personal wealth during that period, Manny. She voted for ignorant economic policy and utterly bigoted and flat our stupid public health policy for which the world is still paying in hundreds of thousands of lives each year. She voted anti choice, anti gay. Is she wants to be a Democratic voice of any sort, those things need to be addressed. She can not simply blather about money when asked why she supported all of that hateful, right wing horror.
I think past actions and choices of each and every person who dares ask for the public trust are absolutely essential to discuss. I can see why you'd like it swept under a rug made of rhetoric, but it is not negotiable. Discussion of past political choices will be part of any election process.

[lumberjack_jeff]

17. ... and under the bus she goes. n/t

[Bluenorthwest]

21. If questioning a candidate's past support of the other Party's really ugly policies is something

unacceptable, I don't know what to tell you. She can't have my vote without addressing the brutal choices she made for the bulk of her adult life. If asking her to explain her own story is 'throwing her under the bus' then we have no democracy at all.

[JustAnotherGen]

31. Plus 1000

When she threw our groups under the bus Blue - who was there to question her? I would hope we all vote our true beliefs - so at one time she must have.

[lumberjack_jeff]

38. I think it's telling that the most effective Warren aversion therapy at DU...

is to observe that men are her strongest base of support.

DU: We want an electable candidate toward whom white men react like snails to salt.

There are worse insults than to observe that she is disproportionately backed by the best-informed demographics.

[VanillaRhapsody]

32. your group threw her under weeks ago

Thats what all the Democrat leaning Indies did....jettisoned her for Bernie Sanders!

[True Blue Door]

5. We don't have a very promising field at the moment.

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All I know so far is that I'm not voting for Hillary Rodham Nixon - at least in the primaries.

[hifiguy]

24. "Hillary Rodham Nixon"

So true, so true. Dedicated solely and utterly to her own interests alone, just like good ol' Tricky Dick.

I am SO stealing that.

[el_bryanto]

6. Perhaps she's had a hard time explaining her willingness to take one Wall Street

and to connect that to the difficulties people are actually experiencing. I think too many look at Wall Street like a corrupt casino without considering the societal purpose its supposed to be fulfilling. They assume that what happens there doesn't affect them, so they don't care.

Which is what Wall Street wants i suppose.

Bryant

[GeorgeGist]

8. ie., moderate Republicans ...

who have no place in the Republican Party.

[NightWatcher]

13. I don't know what to make of these new converts

The republican party left a lot of their moderates when they went teabag. Warren herself was a republican into her 40's.

I welcome their votes but worry that as we absorb many of the recently former repubs, that we are becoming more like republican-lites.

[enough]

9. Elizabeth Warren is very good at certain things.

I hope our political system allows her to stay in a position where she can do some good doing those things she does well.

[Le Taz Hot]

10. Interesting that The Party Faithful

are seeing this as a negative. If she throws her hat in the ring the numbers should rise sharply in all demographics while Hillary's, should she decide to run, will plummet. She appeals to the poor, the middle class, women, and could pull SIGNIFICANT votes from the South. If she decides to run, she will win the nomination and she will win the presidency. She's the REAL thing.

[Stellar]

14. Liz is THE ONE!

As a nonwhite person, I really like her and hope that she has a change of heart and run for President. All she would need is someone with a strong military background to be her VP.

I do love me some Liz!

[Ykcutnek]

15. For the record, I am a fan of Warren.

And think our party/country will be better off if there's no clear nominee before the primaries are over.

Even if she doesn't win, I think Warren can give us that and she should.

[JI7]

20. not too surprising at this point

She hasn't discussed issues Concerning race, lgbt rights, or, women's rights much. And for many these are connected to economic issues.

I think things could change if pEople hear more from her on these and other issues.

[Bluenorthwest]

23. I agree.

She needs to speak about these things and it could do her a great deal of good.

[Marr]

22. How is this surprising? She isn't exactly a household name.

The people who are aware of her at all probably more or less line up with these figures. They're going to be people with the time and means to follow politics.

Which politicians poll best with Wall Street, I wonder? That seems a lot more condemning to me.

[NCTraveler]

25. Sounds like a great place for her to be as far as recognition.

Those are the people she will need initially to get things off the ground if she decides to run.

[thelordofhell]

26. There was a name for that in the 80's..........Reagan Democrats

They helped that sleazeball win two elections while he fucked over anybody who wasn't rich..........despicable

[ChisolmTrailDem]

28. If she enters the race, I will vote for her over the warhawk-of-a-

contrived-and-failed-war-that-featured-torture-by-America Clinton.

And no amount of criticizing her for her search for her political self as a young adult stay-at-home mother isn't going to change that.

[JustAnotherGen]

35. Just did the math

She was 45 in 1994. That's not really very young.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

36. Well, whatever. I don't care how old she was as long as she comes around to the logical and humane

and common sense Democratic way of thinking.

As some just said in another thread "it's great to hear someone speak like a DEMOCRAT again!" Warren is laying out her stances on the issues and I know where she stands, even if I disagree with her on this or that. I still have no idea what Hillary thinks about just about anything. But I have seen what Hillary has done and it led to the disaster that was Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people and upended what was an otherwise relatively benign (to the U.S.) nation as well as brought home 10's of thousands of U.S. service members suffering from any manner of consequences, like PTSD and blown-apart bodies, my cousin being one of them (PTSD). We cannot afford another mistake like that from a President Clinton II.

[JustAnotherGen]

37. Oh don't get me wrong

I'm not a fan of Hill either.

Let's wait and see who all of the contenders are. I'd like to see them all in a debate, and how they conduct themselves on the Campaign trail.

All of them.


I'm too busy getting out the vote for Kovach and Booker right now to have much concern about the magical mythical candidate that takes office in January 2017.

It's a long ways away - and that will be too late for many groups in America (one in particular who are in danger of losing our vote - blacks) that the Republicans want to inflict pain on.


Let's get off our asses and get out there and try to hold the Senate now.

[Corruption Inc]

30. ABC news "poll" is about as believable as "Iraq's full of WMD"

or I guess older white males are the only Americans who care about justice, LOL.

[Proud Public Servant]

33. Of course, the accurate way to parse this

is that people more likely to consume non-TV news are more likely to support Warren. Because that demographic skews wealthier, whiter, more educated, and male too. Which is to say, the demographic that's heard the most about her likes her best.

Or are we now blaming Warren for not being blathered about enough by Cable Barbie and Ken?