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rafeh1

(385 posts)
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 01:56 AM Oct 2014

Netanyahoo gets ready to throw lighted match "israel vote on divide al-aqsa mosque and build temple"

Israel to vote on partitioning Al-Aqsa Mosque between Muslims and Jews


Muslim prayer at Al-Aqsa Mosque

Tuesday, 21 October 2014 13:46

An Arab Knesset member has revealed that there will be a vote in the next month on a law drafted by an Israeli committee regarding the partition of Al-Aqsa Mosque between Muslims and Jews.

Arab MK Masoud Ghanayim was quoted on Monday by Palestinian newspaper Felesteen as saying that "the draft law, which has been prepared by the interior parliamentary committee in the Knesset, stipulates that Jews can perform prayers in Al-Aqsa Mosque."

He continued: "This is based on a proposal that gives Muslims and Jews equal rights in their access and use of the holy site. It also specifies certain locations where Jews can perform their prayers."

It is important to note that both Rabbinical and Israeli law currently bans Jews from prayer at Al-Aqsa Mosque because of the sanctity of the site for the Jewish religion. Most Jews who lobby to pray there are illegal settlers with a right wing agenda.

The Old City in Jerusalem where Al-Aqsa is located is internationally recognised as occupied land. The Israeli occupation authorities frequently prevent Muslims from praying there.

According to Ghanayim, the same draft law also bans organising civil protests and demonstrations in Al-Aqsa compound, and sets out punishment for any violations...


https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/14775-israel-to-https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/14775-israel-to-vote-on-partitioning-al-aqsa-mosque-between-muslims-and-jews-between-muslims-and-jews

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Netanyahoo gets ready to throw lighted match "israel vote on divide al-aqsa mosque and build temple" (Original Post) rafeh1 Oct 2014 OP
That 2naSalit Oct 2014 #1
And yet they still have a partition between men and women at the Western Wall sakabatou Oct 2014 #2
Ramp up education. SamKnause Oct 2014 #3
You want people instructed a certain way to *avoid* indoctrination? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #4
That is not what I SamKnause Oct 2014 #5
It pretty much sounds the same. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #7
But selection of facts is selection of facts. Donald Ian Rankin Oct 2014 #16
Excellent reply. SamKnause Oct 2014 #19
It's from a Likud MK, not Netanyahu: "PM Calms Jordan: No Change in Temple Mount 'Status-Quo'" muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #6
You're was ting your time leftynyc Oct 2014 #10
That is a meaningful distinction, but it's worth noting that Likud is Bibi's party. Donald Ian Rankin Oct 2014 #17
When did this vote take place? onenote Oct 2014 #18
Bibi loves to incite violence and the play the "victim card". Viva_Daddy Oct 2014 #8
Try reading post #6 leftynyc Oct 2014 #11
Just what we needed. A new crisis fadedrose Oct 2014 #9
oh fuck. Even my yiddisha great grandma Minnie wouldn't have thought this a good idea roguevalley Oct 2014 #12
He is such an evil, evil man Marrah_G Oct 2014 #13
warmonger. spanone Oct 2014 #14
Hit and run OP makes up lie about Netanyahu and sheeplike DUers fall over themselves buying it onenote Oct 2014 #15

2naSalit

(86,336 posts)
1. That
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 02:08 AM
Oct 2014

POS's only reason on this earth is to make certain that the ME is cast into perpetual war with religion as the catalyst... and as long as US taxpayers continue to fund it, it will be so.




SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
3. Ramp up education.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:41 AM
Oct 2014

Stamp out indoctrination and brainwashing of future generations !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
5. That is not what I
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:16 AM
Oct 2014

intended for my post to insinuate.

I will state it differently.

Education; is the best tool to counteract indoctrination and brainwashing.

Children can not make informed decisions when they are never taught the facts.

The United States educational system is a good example.

The history of the United States continues to be whitewashed.

Texas continues to ramp up the revisionist history that our children our being taught.

Religion continues to invade the political arena.

Separation of Church and State is under constant assault.

Policies should be based on facts.

Facts are facts.

It is wrong for the government to do it.

It is wrong for religion to do it.



Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
7. It pretty much sounds the same.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:15 AM
Oct 2014

It pretty much sounds like: The US educational system should be constituted of such lessons as are necessary to draw out the pre-determined conclusions of The Deciding Class and those who fail to meet the standard are determined to be "wrong" and shall be subject to such remediation as is deemed appropriate by The Deciding Class.

I'm sorry if that sounds unkind but even with you expounding on your earlier post there seems to be no other end result.

Democracy -- freedom -- allows people to decide who they want to be as individuals and then provides the means by which they may peaceably resolve their disputes while preserving the inherent rights of the political minority. Being "wrong" is a base assumption in democracy. Either the political minority will be wrong and thus out of power, or perhaps the "wrong" people will gain political dominance but they must still preserve the rights of the minority.

I prefer freedom.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
16. But selection of facts is selection of facts.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:16 PM
Oct 2014

There are uncountably many facts out there. You *can't* teach children All The Facts, all you can give them is an edited selection that you consider to be representative and valuable.

Hitler was a leader who strengthened Germany's military, reduced unemployment, and improved its road system.

Those are facts, but if your factual education includes those facts and not, say, the holocaust and World War II, it's not doing its job.

So the distinction between "education" and "indoctrination" is not as clearcut as "stick to the facts".

There's a commonly-used platitude, "teach them to think for themselves". People who use it never seem to agree on how that should be taught, however.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
6. It's from a Likud MK, not Netanyahu: "PM Calms Jordan: No Change in Temple Mount 'Status-Quo'"
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:12 AM
Oct 2014
Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu told Jordan Tuesday that Israel has no intention of changing the status quo on the Temple Mount. This means that Jews will continue to be forbidden to pray on the Mount.

A bill submitted by MK Miri Regev (Likud), according to which Jews will be allowed to pray on the Mount, and not just tour it, caused alarm in Jordan. Jordan's Ambassador to Israel Walid Obeidat reportedly demanded clarifications from the Foreign Ministry Tuesday on the new bill, following reports that it would be voted on next month.
...
When the Jordanian ambassador in Tel Aviv contacted the Foreign Ministry, reported IDF Radio, the Ministry relayed the matter to the Prime Minister's Office, which told the radio station that “the prime minister has repeatedly made clear in recent weeks that there is no intention of carrying out a change in the status quo on the Temple Mount and that the ones causing the provocations are extremist Palestinian elements.”

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/186433

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
17. That is a meaningful distinction, but it's worth noting that Likud is Bibi's party.
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:21 PM
Oct 2014

And also that he allowed a free vote on the bill.

onenote

(42,603 posts)
18. When did this vote take place?
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:58 PM
Oct 2014

The article cited by the OP doesn't say there has been any vote. It says that an Arab member of the Knesset claims there will be a vote next month. How he would come to have this information is interesting since the Knesset has been in recess since the end of July and will not convene for its next session until this coming Sunday. The schedule of matters to be taken up between now and December in the Knesset doesn't list this bill (which apparently was introduced back in April) and an article about this controversy expressly states that the bill hasn't been put to a Knesset vote yet, and it is unclear if it will in the Knesset's winter session, to start next week. http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.622031

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
9. Just what we needed. A new crisis
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 12:23 PM
Oct 2014

Maybe not so much between the Jews and Muslims, I think more about the Fundamentalists in the US on the Teevee......they must be salivating over the nearness of the second coming and the prospect of new money pouring in.

Lighted matches will be thrown by a whole bunch of people . . .

onenote

(42,603 posts)
15. Hit and run OP makes up lie about Netanyahu and sheeplike DUers fall over themselves buying it
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 05:11 PM
Oct 2014

I am no fan of Netanyahu, but it disserves this board when posters make up shit. The story cited in the OP doesn't mention Netanyahu. Indeed, it clearly states that this is a proposal from a committee of the Knesset (i.e., the legislature). And subsequent posts make it clear that Netanyahu not only isn't behind the idea, he opposes it.

Again, we don't need to resort to misrepresentations to make our points. Or at least we shouldn't.

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