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What a fucking idiot..."instagram-artist-defaces-national-parks" (Original Post) blackspade Oct 2014 OP
Yeah - that's some serious hubris right there. cyberswede Oct 2014 #1
Only in her own mind. notadmblnd Oct 2014 #51
Her art looks like it belongs on some Chucks or a Trapper Keeper. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #2
Agree. That's not art - it's vandalism. Marie Marie Oct 2014 #16
I could draw better than that. cwydro Oct 2014 #54
Is it paint or chalk? Scootaloo Oct 2014 #3
The artist says it's acrylic. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #4
In some photos I noticed she is using magic marker theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #34
She could have just drawn on paper shenmue Oct 2014 #5
Absolute P O S . Find her stop her oh and it is not chalk it is in acrylic lunasun Oct 2014 #6
She has achieved a somewhat epic troll at least, synergizing real-world petronius Oct 2014 #7
She needs to be found, arrested, and tried for multiple counts of vandalism. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #8
^ this ^ x 1000 defacto7 Oct 2014 #19
She probably yuiyoshida Oct 2014 #41
And, possibly, was praised for it. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #42
agreed...and yuiyoshida Oct 2014 #44
That really was silly, I'm sad people fell for it. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #46
You know I really didn't yuiyoshida Oct 2014 #47
Boatbound's twitter feed says they "did it out of love for the Giants, Willie..." NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #49
They had the hashtag yuiyoshida Oct 2014 #50
Self-important... 3catwoman3 Oct 2014 #9
Whitehouse.gov petition. Spread it around! NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #10
I want to 2naSalit Oct 2014 #17
The site provides the initials based on what you enter. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #18
Thanks 2naSalit Oct 2014 #22
Six months per violation, 10 violations = 5 years. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #25
I agree 2naSalit Oct 2014 #28
This is so disgraceful, hope they got enough evidence to prosecute her on a felony charge. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #11
How awful! A Little Weird Oct 2014 #12
What a foolish thing to do and what an idiot to document it. uppityperson Oct 2014 #13
On one level she's brilliant for documenting - think of what taxpayers will save csziggy Oct 2014 #14
News coverage Goblor Oct 2014 #15
It starts at 17:10 NBachers Oct 2014 #24
Welcome to DU, Goblor! calimary Oct 2014 #62
disgustingly selfish hibbing Oct 2014 #20
1. These are Federal offenses 2. Who is financing all this travel? NBachers Oct 2014 #21
I doubt there is any money to investigate or prosecute crimes on federal lands anymore. It's been freshwest Oct 2014 #32
Interesting. You probably nailed it right there. n/t cui bono Oct 2014 #35
We had a US rep name of Richard Pombo who wanted to sell off parks to pay for the national debt. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #48
That's great, SKP! Our problem has been corporations and their fronts, the non-profits. freshwest Oct 2014 #57
Not all that costly, really 2naSalit Oct 2014 #61
I'll see this fool in jail! defacto7 Oct 2014 #23
And according to her, those who criticize her are "mansplaining" ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2014 #26
Yet another reason to hate that stupid term. NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #31
that's probably *not* her fishwax Oct 2014 #38
ayup: boston bean Oct 2014 #40
I found this offensive on so many levels. blackspade Oct 2014 #27
All publicity is good publicity for these creeps. Maybe she'll be McCain's running mate next. n/t RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #29
Not just an idiot but a criminal. NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #30
Hopefully the National Parks Service catches up with her.. Historic NY Oct 2014 #33
for some reason this came to mind. corkhead Oct 2014 #36
This story really got me in a dither. boston bean Oct 2014 #37
The punishment for this idiot ought to be ... Tracer Oct 2014 #39
Ten parks could mean 5 years total PLUS restitution. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #43
Who does she think she is...... Banksy?? NOT a kennedy Oct 2014 #45
So what makes this Banksy vandal any different? customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #53
Yosemite? Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #52
I'd like to do some "art" pipi_k Oct 2014 #55
What are the technical details on fixing this? Jim Lane Oct 2014 #56
Actually, Simple Green works great on acrylics for cleanup. blackspade Oct 2014 #58
She used magic marker in some cases theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #63
This confirms my worst fears.... theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #65
I guess it would depend on the type of ink in the marker blackspade Oct 2014 #66
I'm not so sure how well that would work with sandstone theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #67
Not even original. Her artwork looks like high school doodles. Rex Oct 2014 #59
She definitely has her head up her ass if she thinks this: CrispyQ Oct 2014 #60
A tally of this selfish, self-important asshole's damage.... theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #64

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
51. Only in her own mind.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:28 AM
Oct 2014

Because it doesn't look any better than the shit any preteen could draw on their homework folders.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
2. Her art looks like it belongs on some Chucks or a Trapper Keeper.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 09:51 PM
Oct 2014

Not that it would be okay if it were good art, but it being "art" makes it worse, for sure.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
5. She could have just drawn on paper
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 09:58 PM
Oct 2014

and stuck the pictures on boards. Then the papers could have been taken down and recycled.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
7. She has achieved a somewhat epic troll at least, synergizing real-world
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:04 PM
Oct 2014

jackassery with on-line asshattery. Hope the notoriety is worth it for her (and I hope there are some legal consequences)...

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
8. She needs to be found, arrested, and tried for multiple counts of vandalism.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:06 PM
Oct 2014

This isn't art, it's the height of selfish indulgence.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
42. And, possibly, was praised for it.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 10:51 AM
Oct 2014

Times have changed!

Some parents have chosen to only establish boundaries as a last resort, and often too late.

The result is poorly socialized adults who are loud in public, might litter without a thought, leave their shopping carts in an empty parking stall at Safeway or Nob Hill, etc., etc.

I'm kind of glad that I was raised differently.

OBTW, Go Giants!

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
44. agreed...and
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 10:57 AM
Oct 2014

hoping for a win tonight. Someone told me those NY Baseball Giant caps have suddenly begun emerging in NYC.. that some people there are trying to reclaim the Giants.. funny. That and the McCovey Cove silly thing that happened yesterday.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
46. That really was silly, I'm sad people fell for it.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:06 AM
Oct 2014

As far as I know, the people of San Francisco own that cove and naming rights are not for sale. Yet. And if they were the good people would never support dissing McCovey that way.



yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
47. You know I really didn't
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:09 AM
Oct 2014

find that hoax too funny, and only because Willie McCovey just got out of the hospital and was allowed to go to the game, via in a wheel chair. Could you imagine, at his age and delicate condition how he would have felt, had he heard that rumor? I don't think he would have thought it funny either!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
49. Boatbound's twitter feed says they "did it out of love for the Giants, Willie..."
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:18 AM
Oct 2014

Read for yourself.

https://twitter.com/boatbound

I'm skeptical.

They write that "it was for a good cause" with this link: https://boatbound.co/giveaway

Which is just a promotion for their own company, giving away boat use credits?

How humanitarian of them!

For the record, we did this out of love for the Giants, Willie, and the cove and meant no disrespect


Check here for more information https://boatbound.co/giveaway It was for a good cause


Um, no, screw you.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
17. I want to
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 11:26 PM
Oct 2014

sign this petition but I have a question I want to ask first.

I've noticed that all the names are initials, does that mean you have to use your initials or does the petition application do that automatically? I need to know because I have a privacy concern and don't want to have my full name (if required by the site) to end up on the web site for all to see.

Thanks.

2na

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
18. The site provides the initials based on what you enter.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 11:31 PM
Oct 2014

They ask for your full name and then only display initials.

However, if concerned, you could use a pseudonym, I doubt that they verify identities, only your email address is unique.

And I doubt that doing this is in any way illegal.



2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
22. Thanks
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 11:47 PM
Oct 2014

I wanted to confirm that first, it isn't clear in the terms of use and privacy info.

I'm on it. I am sorry to say that her offense amounts to a misdemeanor which doesn't have much bite to it unless each individual park brings up separate charges, that might result in repeat offender status which might have some actual teeth.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
25. Six months per violation, 10 violations = 5 years.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 11:53 PM
Oct 2014

Not that they would hit her with all that but I think she's earned it.

Thanks!

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
28. I agree
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 12:14 AM
Oct 2014

Somehow I am afraid that she won't get that much punishment, but then we all know her name now.

Looks like the petition is getting some traction, the count jumped by close to 200 signatures in the few minutes it took for me to confirm my signature. Hope it makes the goal and then some.

Thanks for posting the petition link and for your assistance!!

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
11. This is so disgraceful, hope they got enough evidence to prosecute her on a felony charge.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:10 PM
Oct 2014

Last edited Fri Oct 24, 2014, 11:27 PM - Edit history (1)

No one wants to see her vandalism. Hope they make her clean this crap up and then lock her in jail. She is not an artist, just a common criminal stealing from the public for her personal profit.

A Little Weird

(1,754 posts)
12. How awful!
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:30 PM
Oct 2014

I hope she gets some serious punishment for this act of vandalism. Graffiti is not art.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
14. On one level she's brilliant for documenting - think of what taxpayers will save
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:50 PM
Oct 2014

In her prosecution! She's provided all the evidence needed to prove she did it and that she knew it was not right, but she did it anyway.

I signed the White House petition asking that the government "pursue the most serious of charges for these offenses." Throw the book at her!

calimary

(81,220 posts)
62. Welcome to DU, Goblor!
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:31 PM
Oct 2014

Glad you're here! MAN, GET THE SANDBLASTER!!! That blue thing is utterly idiotic. It is NOT art. Who the hell does she think she is? Besides some self-entitled JERK. Those stupid-cutesy adolescent doodles belong in the margins of somebody's textbook in middle school. NOT on any of our magnificent natural treasures.

Make her pay for the clean-up, too.

NBachers

(17,103 posts)
21. 1. These are Federal offenses 2. Who is financing all this travel?
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 11:46 PM
Oct 2014

As an ex-Federal inmate with significant time under my belt, I can assure you that people are imprisoned for low-impact trivial offenses on Federal land.

I knew a guy doing time for shoplifting pants at the Yosemite gift store.

I had a friend who did time for driving drunk on Federal property.

People have done Fed time behind lower-quality offenses than what Casey Nocket is doing.

My other question is: She can't possibly be supporting herself and all this travel by selling her "art ." There's a lot of money tied up in travel, lodging, supplies, and food for all the locations she's vandalizing. Are Mommy and Daddy financing this? If not them, then who? And are they culpable in the mountain of felonies she has committed?

And don't let her off with the doe-eyed teary innocent "I'm Sorry I Apologize I won't do it anymore boo hoo" routine.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
32. I doubt there is any money to investigate or prosecute crimes on federal lands anymore. It's been
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 01:55 AM
Oct 2014

done on purpose in order to devalue the heritage, natural environment of the parks, to ward off visitors and later abandon the land to private interests.

It happens in states under the guise of budget cutting resulting in degradation of the parks, then closure and after a few years of being denied access to the public, they forget about them and they are sold off to private interests.

She may be employed by a group with that intent. After numerous assaults on the Commons, the public gives in and the private forces take it away.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
48. We had a US rep name of Richard Pombo who wanted to sell off parks to pay for the national debt.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:10 AM
Oct 2014

I worked my ass off to replace him with McNerney, who's been doing a pretty good job.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
57. That's great, SKP! Our problem has been corporations and their fronts, the non-profits.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 03:03 PM
Oct 2014

In the end, the Commons are lost and the citizens get the short end despite protests. Land donated to the state to protect it ends up going into the hands of developers and never to be seen again. They use slick campaigns to call proposed land changes an improvement, and they manufacture consent in media simply by putting up billboards with some catchy, positive meme and getting air time.

Then the fix is in and the land that was supposed to be gained in land swaps ends up to be lousy land and the good land ends up in gated preserves with the new landed gentry in homes that cost millions. The public receives no payment, as they get the land for nothing and the developers sell it high. The new residents don't associate with the people downhill, who often get flooded from the hills being denuded for these communities.

They get exemptions from laws on ground water use, waste water and it's just NOYB after that. In time they move the city hall of established communities who suffer the losses, zone out whatever small business and other rural entities that they don't want to see on their way into their area. It all falls in place like dominoes.

Meanwhile remaining public parks have no staff to keep them up and if a person wants to go for a day hike they're told they are going at their own risk because of car break ins in the parking lot. It's so bad people are told if they are going to hike to have someone drop them off because their car will be broken into for sure or vandalized while they are out of sight.

And it's accepted, since it's not private land, and the locals go along with it, even decry the last existing public amenities. After all, if the people were worthy, they'd own enough land to play on.

Go the national forest lands and the roads are full of pot holes, locals dump cars, household furniture, toxic and other trash in the formerly spiritually invigorating woods. Take a ride and find a load of Bundy militia who stare down anyone driving up the road to the trail heads. As if the park belongs to them and visitors are the trespassers.

I'm sure not all the state is like that, but I've seen it up close as it developed, and others in other parts of the state report they are seeing the same things in their areas. Particularly the militia types meeting in the woods. If I sound a bit paranoid at times about the Bundities, etc., it's because I've met them here in the PNW. They are not a fiction of media.

The destruction of the Commons inevitably leads to tribalism and oppression. These are the same areas that are now run by fundies and want all the things the Koch brothers want. And tell the women to be silent in church and elsewhere.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
61. Not all that costly, really
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:24 PM
Oct 2014

anyone can buy and "all parks pass" for $80 (good for a year) and if you travel light and use rideshare options, not too pricey to go about and do something that stupid. That's why she needs to be arrested and prosecuted. Acrylics come in tubes so it's not too hard to carry them in a frame pack for back country trekking. Lodging doesn't appear to be an issue for her since much of this was done in backcountry locations, otherwise she would have been found out sooner. She could be a couch-surfer which is pretty cheap too.

Just sayin'

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
23. I'll see this fool in jail!
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 11:49 PM
Oct 2014

Forget the public service. I don't want her touching anything public. Just jail time, thousands in cleanup fees and maximum fines.

PLUS... barred from National Parks, National Monuments, National forests, BLM land, and historic and archaeological areas.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
26. And according to her, those who criticize her are "mansplaining"
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 11:54 PM
Oct 2014

According to the reports, anyway.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
38. that's probably *not* her
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 07:58 AM
Oct 2014

At least, that's the theory of the guy who has been getting this story told by writing the blog in the op.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
40. ayup:
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 08:29 AM
Oct 2014
Fourth Update: The story is definitely picking up steam, and some national outlets are reporting that Nocket has retaken to her formerly defunct Tumblr blog at creepytings.tumblr.com. On the site, which has undergone a complete graphical overhaul, the author now seems to be combative – comparing her work to that of noted street artist Banksy and defending herself as a feminist. The author now also says she plans to paint on gravestones because it will cause less controversy.

It is my opinion that this Tumblr account is NOT operated by Casey Nocket. The new Tumblr blog only goes back as far as when the original version was taken down, the visual and writing style are completely different, and the new content seems more interested in stirring up controversy via combative language and buzzwords like “mansplaining.” As it goes for all trolls, I would encourage everyone to ignore this new Tumblr blog – and hope that all of the new journalists who are coming to the story don’t associate this new content with Ms. Nocket.


http://www.modernhiker.com/2014/10/21/instagram-artist-defaces-national-parks/

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
27. I found this offensive on so many levels.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 12:13 AM
Oct 2014

Some people have this weird need to proclaim to the world that they are somehow more special than the wonders that exist around them.

Defacing the natural wonders of the world reeks of insecurity. And she is not alone.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
33. Hopefully the National Parks Service catches up with her..
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 02:13 AM
Oct 2014

she obviously thinks she is invisible after posting all over the internet.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
37. This story really got me in a dither.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 07:50 AM
Oct 2014

Who the FUCK does this Casey Nocket think she is.

What a selfish, self indulgent egomaniac. And those are the words I put in print. Lots of profanity running around my mind for this brainless fuckwit.

Tracer

(2,769 posts)
39. The punishment for this idiot ought to be ...
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 08:23 AM
Oct 2014

... a HUGE fine and the absolute requirement that she get out there and scrub, wire brush, paint strip every damn trace of her "art".

I volunteer to stand over her while she removes every bit!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
43. Ten parks could mean 5 years total PLUS restitution.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 10:54 AM
Oct 2014

Restitution could mean that scrubbing thing, every little spot.

It will take at least two supervisor volunteers, so I'm right there with you.

Our beautiful national parks, what a treat!

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
53. So what makes this Banksy vandal any different?
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 12:39 PM
Oct 2014

Is it the fact that she's doing this on public property (which you feel a slight degree of ownership in) versus private property that you don't own?

Playing with anything but your own art supplies is just wrong.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
52. Yosemite?
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 11:31 AM
Oct 2014

Grrrrrrrr!!!!!!

In my fantasy world we could find out where she lives and go do "art" on her residence and everything that belongs to her. Then throw her ass in jail with a hefty fine.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
55. I'd like to do some "art"
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 12:53 PM
Oct 2014

on her face with indelible markers.

And then when the "art" wore off, as it will eventually do, make some more.

A whole year of having to walk around with magic marker on her face. Hopefully some of the "art" would include lots of vulgarity.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
56. What are the technical details on fixing this?
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 01:10 PM
Oct 2014

I know enough to gather that chalk would've been much easier to remove, but I don't know the story with acrylic paint. With an appropriate solvent, a wire brush, and some elbow grease, can the vandalized sites be restored to pretty close to their natural condition? or is someone pretty much going to have to sandblast off much of the rock face?

ETA: I signed the petition. Thanks for the link!

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
58. Actually, Simple Green works great on acrylics for cleanup.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 03:35 PM
Oct 2014

Acrylics also don't soak into porous surfaces like oil paints do, so there is that.
So yes, they can be clean up, but it was such a shitty thing to do, it does little to mitigate what she did.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
63. She used magic marker in some cases
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 12:22 AM
Oct 2014

It also looks as if she used the marker to deface sandstone in which case, I don't know how you would go about removing it without doing some damage. Sandstone is porous and trying to remove that ink with chemicals may only make things worse.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
65. This confirms my worst fears....
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 01:03 AM
Oct 2014
http://www.13wham.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/woman-says-spray-paint-natl-park-art-17024.shtml

"I don't see this as art, I see this as vandalism," said Aly Baltrus with Chief of Interpretation and Visitor Services at Zion National Park. Baltrus said a team of park rangers at Zion set out to find the defaced rock at the park, take pictures for evidence, and then clean the rock. She said if they find it, the author who signed some of her works "creepytings", will face prosecution. She said although the rangers can probably clean the rock, it will certainly be damaged as the park's famous red rock is sandstone.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
66. I guess it would depend on the type of ink in the marker
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 01:07 AM
Oct 2014

Sharpies, for instance, can be cleaned up with rubbing alcohol with limited damage in most cases.
Unfortunately sandblasting (or walnut hull blasting) might be required, although at petroglyph sites that is likely not an option.

It's a terrible situation in any case.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
67. I'm not so sure how well that would work with sandstone
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 01:14 AM
Oct 2014

I've cleaned up sharpies before and all manner of inks and stains. Porous sandstone... I dunno, I think even rubbing alcohol would further bleed the ink into the rock. I guess we'll find out. What a selfish, despicable thing to do. I suspect you're right that some kind of gentle blasting (sounds like an oxymoron) may be required.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
59. Not even original. Her artwork looks like high school doodles.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 03:46 PM
Oct 2014

'Creepytings'...lol...how juvenile. Looks like something kids did in high school when they were bored in class! Is she supposed to be a real artist?

Oh okay.

BTW, enjoy your time in federal prison.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
60. She definitely has her head up her ass if she thinks this:
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 03:47 PM
Oct 2014
The author now also says she plans to paint on gravestones because it will cause less controversy.


theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
64. A tally of this selfish, self-important asshole's damage....
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 12:33 AM
Oct 2014

I hope the next time she feels so inspired it will be with a box of crayons and the walls of her jail cell.

The news release from the National Parks Service lists the following parks affected by the vandalism:
Yosemite National Park, Calif.
Death Valley National Park, Calif.
Crater Lake National Park, Ore.
Zion National Park, Utah
Canyonlands National Park, Utah

NPS says it is awaiting confirmation on other possible cases of vandalism at the following locations:
Grand Canyon National Park, Ariz.
Sequoia Kings Canyon National Park, Calif.
Joshua Tree National Park, Calif.
Rocky Mountain National Park, Colo.
Bryce National Park, Utah


Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/reddit-users-helping-investigator-track-down-artist-defacing-national-parks-1.2069381#ixzz3HDpvXiIZ

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