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jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 12:11 AM Oct 2014

The reason rockets explode

I direct your attention to this NASA historical document on the F-1 engine they used on the Saturn V...http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/saturn_apollo/documents/F-1_Engine.pdf

This is a bigger engine than Orbital Sciences is running, but this will give you the idea. Look at a few items:

Fuel Pump
The fuel pump supplies fuel to the thrust chamber and gas generator at a flowrate of 15,471 gallons per minute.

Oxidizer Pump
The oxidizer pump supplies oxidizer to the thrust chamber and gas generator at a flowrate of 24,811 gallons per minute.

Turbine
The turbine, producing 55,000 brake horsepower, drives the fuel and oxidizer pumps.

If you look at the attached document you'll notice the fuel and oxidizer lines are about two feet in diameter.

Rocket scientists live on the horns of a dilemma. On one hand, the rocket must be strong enough not to break when you pump 15,000 gallons per minute of kerosene into it. On the other, every pound of material used to ensure the rocket WON'T break when you pump 15,000 gpm's worth of kerosene into it is a pound of cargo you won't be paid to lift with your engine. Hence, the art of rocketry is the ability to be able to make a rocket that's exactly strong enough to not blow up.

And also strong enough to survive being stored in a cave in Siberia for the past fifty years.

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The reason rockets explode (Original Post) jmowreader Oct 2014 OP
IIRC, no F1s blew up during flight MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #1
Some of them blew up during testing, though jmowreader Oct 2014 #2
That's why we test... MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #3
In regards to Apollo and the F1, read up on a concept called the "All-Up Test". n/t cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #5
I heard an account from a friend who was at NASA MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #6
That's what we get using Russian engines. JayhawkSD Oct 2014 #4
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
1. IIRC, no F1s blew up during flight
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 12:44 AM
Oct 2014

Out of 55 F1s flown, I think 2-3 cut off early, two of those on an unmanned test flight.

And they were way more powerful than what blew up yesterday. Amazing engineering!

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
6. I heard an account from a friend who was at NASA
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 08:35 AM
Oct 2014

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at the time, now sadly passed away.

Lots of unit testing had been done, but not integration testing. The Germans were appalled and terrified, but it worked!

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
4. That's what we get using Russian engines.
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 01:06 AM
Oct 2014

Or at least fifty year old Russian engines that have been refurbished.

Space-X, which has flown several missions to the ISS with no failures, builds its own rocket engines.

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