Time change; It's happened TWICE, every year of your life... Get over it maybe?

[cherokeeprogressive]

For goodness' sakes; it's not like it's something sprung on you THIS year, that didn't happen TWICE last year.

You might as well be bitching about the fact that Sol is lower on the horizon from September to March (depending on your location relative to the equator), or that it's too fucking HIGH in the sky from April to August.

It happens EVERY FUCKING YEAR people... get used to it already.

My fucking Gawd... you'd think that every year when the time change happens, THIS year was the FIRST year it happened.

[cali]

1. Just because it happens 2x each year, doesn't mean I have to like it.

I don't like it when it gets dark at 4 p.m.

[cherokeeprogressive]

2. Where does it get dark at 4?

[TorchTheWitch]

6. it does where I live

Which not only causes depression because of the lack of daylight as well as putting me in danger when I used to have to work a 9-5 in the city and walk in the dark alone many blocks to where I had to park my car.

Bully for you that daylight savings time changes causes you no difficulties. It does to many many other people some of us serious difficulties.

What a damned obnoxious OP.

[laundry_queen]

10. +1

I've actually lived in a place that didn't have the yearly time change and I can't even explain how you don't realize that something is so stressful until it is gone. This time change stuff is pointless and is actually harmful for many people. I hate it. And I'll hate it twice a year for the rest of my life.

[cali]

14. Northern Vermont.

sunset today is at 4:39. The days only get shorter.

[Renew Deal]

22. The days only get shorter regardless of daylight savings practices.

And 4:39 would be sundown if DST didn't exist. That is "standard time."

[MADem]

27. Wales. nt

[TransitJohn]

38. Everywhere, seemingingly

I know that for a few weeks on either side of the solstice I won't be seeing the sun here in Denver. Sunset is 4:57 tonight.

[pipi_k]

56. Where I live too

I live near the bottom of a "U" shaped area between two hills. One side of the "U" is to the east, the other side to the west.

So the sun takes longer to rise at my house than it does at the top of the "U" and it goes down behind the hill to the west sooner than it does in a flat area.


Also, where it used to be only a minor annoyance when I was younger, now that I'm older it's a major production to change all the clocks and watches in the house. Yesterday I had to change the times on 6 watches, not to mention that there are 8 clocks scattered all over the house. Just thankful the clocks on my computer and iPhone/iPad are self adjusting. Oh, then there's the clock in the main vehicle to change.

I have sleeping difficulties as well, so the time change really messes with that for a while.

Hate to sound like a complainer, but damn, I never guessed that some things could be so difficult for older people.

[cherokeeprogressive]

4. I'm sorry, I have to go to bed... but I'm hoping you get my point.

It's happened every year that every currently living person in The United States (excepting those states that don't observe it) has been alive.

To see some of the complaints, you'd think it was instituted last year.

[Jenoch]

18. You don't really know how DST works, do you?

WITHOUT DST, it would get dark EARLIER in the autumn than it does now.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

20. No

It is early and I haven't had coffee, but it seems to me that if it gets dark at 4:39 PM today, had the time not changed, it would 5:39 PM, which would be an hour later.

[Renew Deal]

24. You misunderstand it

We are now in "standard time". The adjustment is to daylight time. Also, you would have the opposite complaint in the spring.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

25. You misunderstand it

I have no complaint about the time change - it's a minor annoyance changing the clocks around the house, but that's it.

I was just pointing out that the previous poster said that if the time hadn't changed, it would be getting dark even earlier than 4:39, which I don't believe is correct.

[Renew Deal]

26. I agree about 4:39

4:39 is standard time. If we never adjusted the clocks it would be 4:39.

[TorchTheWitch]

3. or you could just mind your own business

and stop telling people what to think or what to feel or what to say here.

[cherokeeprogressive]

5. Pssst... I have a secret.

I've been told someone's going to sneak into every house in the United States in November and change their clocks.

This is something that is unprecedented in human history, and unless over 300,000,000 people can find a way to cope with it? Life as we know it will cease to exist.

[TorchTheWitch]

7. I really don't care to listen to your diatribes

about a topic you obviously have no interest in and think you have the right to tell people what they're allowed to be bothered by or to talk about it here.

Thankfully, it's easy to zap people here that are too obnoxious and entirely self-centered to be borne.

>>>CLICK<<<

[JI7]

9. so what ? the reason people complain is because it sucks so much

i prefer to get rid of daylight savings time .

[joshdawg]

23. I agree: get rid of DST.

Stay with Standard time like Arizona and Hawaii.
And to answer Ptah's question: Why yes, yes I do. :^)

[bananas]

12. Same for Christmas

Christmas also happens twice a year,
there's Christmas in December,
and Christmas in July.

[BuelahWitch]

13. Hide thread is your friend

If you don't like the threads complaining about the time change hide em.

[RandiFan1290]

15. Don't open the threads.

Then you won't have to read them and whine about them and make new thread whining about them.
Don't you have anything better to do?

[handmade34]

16. and twice every year I bitch

because it is a stupid idea because people can't accept, and live peaceably in the natural world

[TheKentuckian]

31. Nature doesn't give a shit if it is 7 or 8 right now, it is the exact same

amount of daylight. It would be unnatural if we through sorcery or science extended the amount of daylight but this is purely a trick of perception to which the only "right" answer is how we humans elect to look at it.

[Le Taz Hot]

17. Sounds like SOMEBODY could benefit from a nap.

Jeez -- talk about overreacting.

[Chemisse]

19. Complaining about things that are inevitable is idiotic.

And yet people do it constantly (think weather, it's too hot, it's too cold, it's raining, it's snowing).

I prefer to find something each day to be happy about.

[MADem]

28. It's a safer topic than religion or politics while you're waiting for the bus, though! nt

[Chemisse]

45. Very true.

And when you are stuck for something to talk about, it makes good filler.

[scarletwoman]

40. Changing clocks twice a year is NOT "inevitable". It's an artificial construct being imposed on us.

I'm not a mindless sheep, I see no reason why I should accept being jerked around twice a year for no apparent good reason.

I will complain about it and keep complaining about it until this stupid practice is finally done away with.

[Sancho]

21. I hate changing clocks for no reason other than annoying everyone...

meanwhile, would you please come feed our pet schnauzers who are barking and want breakfast? They don't seem to be able to get over it!

[Violet_Crumble]

29. But it gives me jetlag and I have to change the clock in the car...

I think I have very valid reasons to complain and turn up to work an hour late for a few days a year.

Queensland doesn't have daylight savings. Why can't we all be like Queensland?

[Proud Public Servant]

30. Seriously, if you're going to whine, at least be accurate

This is standard time. We didn't just go on daylight savings time; we went off it. So hate early darkness? Don't blame DST - that happens during standard time. If you're going to whine about DST, then at least whine about how much you hate long summer days when the sun doesn't go down til 9 pm. That's what daylight savings time gets you.

[Silent3]

32. I've heard people say that they want to end DST when what they really want is *permanent* DST.

If the majority of people really prefer extra daylight in the evening over extra daylight in the morning, all the time, all year long, why play games with the clock?

JUST SCHEDULE EVERYTHING AN HOUR EARLIER! Get up an hour earlier, go to work an hour earlier, come home an hour earlier, go to bed an hour earlier. Voilà, an extra hour of daylight in your evening.

It's like people don't want to have to go into work "as early as" 7:00, but if you call the exact same time of day 8:00 because you played with the clocks, now it's somehow not so early anymore.

[MindPilot]

36. + 100001!!

I don't care where the clock is set--I can adjust. JUST QUIT FUCKING CHANGING THE BASELINE EVERY GODDAMN SIX MONTHS!!

[ProdigalJunkMail]

33. changing our clocks twice a year is FUCKING STUPID

but maybe you're ok with stupid stuff because it's tradition?!? oh, my... where could we go with THAT???

sP

[MH1]

34. By this logic, we shouldn't complain about the effed up healthcare system,

or the way that our electoral system almost completely locks out third parties,

or that any whackjob can easily get any number of guns they please ...

(wait, some people here think we shouldn't care about that last one)

but anyway, there are a whole lot of things that have been fucked up my entire lifetime, and your saying I should just accept them and not complain?

Changing the clocks twice a year is a human artifact that has severe deleterious effects for many people. What are the good effects? I dunno, but seriously suspect they are not the same as those that were the initial premise of the law. Does the good (whatever it supposedly is) outweigh the bad? That's a reasonable conversation to have, isn't it? Well at least for those of us on the losing end.

[panader0]

35. No change here in Az.

[LWolf]

37. The older I get, the harder it gets. nt

[scarletwoman]

41. Same here. The older I get the longer it takes to adjust my internal clock.

And the older I get the more it pisses me off to be jerked around twice a year by such a stupid, unnecessary policy.

[marmar]

39. And twice a year someone probably posts something strident telling people to get over it.

Live and let live.

[Spider Jerusalem]

42. Unless you're from Indiana, where it's a recent and stupid innovation, that is

and yes, it happens every year; however, the question is, really, "should it"? Continuing to do things because we've always done them without actually considering why and whether they serve a tangible benefit is frankly stupid.

[scarletwoman]

43. Thank you, that's exactly the correct response to the OP.

Continuing to do things because we've always done them without actually considering why and whether they serve a tangible benefit is frankly stupid.

[Iggo]

44. You're right. If they're gonna complain, they should complain in the Spring when the change occurs..

....instead of in the Fall when we fix it and go back to Standard Time.

[fishwax]

46. well, unless you were born in the 1960s

Daylight Savings Time has only been federally regulated since 1966. Before that, some places had it and some didn't. During WW II clocks didn't change but we're always ahead one hour.

Personally, I don't mind the time change. (I'd be happy to do it even more often, provided it was always back and never forward .)

[former9thward]

50. I don't think it is federally regulated.

Or if it is what the regulation is. Here in AZ we don't have it. Clocks never change.

[fishwax]

58. yeah, there is a federal law, but it allows for exceptions

The federal government passed a federal standard on daylight saving time in 1966 because when every municipality could essentially decide whether to observe and when to start and end DST it became difficult for transportation companies to coordinate schedules. (Time zones originated for the same reason.) So the feds instituted a set day to begin and a set day to end; states were allowed to opt out, provided the entire state did so. (Later they reduced that requirement for states with multiple time zones.)

Arizona opted out, because pushing the summer heat an hour later into the evening would suck. Michigan initially opted out, but then decided to play along a few years later. Hawaii decided against DST as well.

[former9thward]

59. Thanks for the info.

I know when I lived in Chicago there was a piece of IN in the east that did not have DST even though most of the state did. I don't know if that is still the case.

[hunter]

47. I complain about ALL THE CRAP this society forces me to eat.

Now that my kids are grown and moved away I mostly live by my own schedules. Time changes simply don't have much impact on me. I don't watch any scheduled television, don't listen to any scheduled radio, don't have a "nine to five" job.

I usually wake up an hour or so before the sun rises, paying no attention to the clock.

In an entirely naturalistic society all time would be local and adjusted daily by some algorithm keeping it in tune with the sun and seasons. People's own internal biorhythms and computerized "smart clocks" could easily handle this task. Only a few activities, such as airline schedules or conferences that gather people together from scattered geographical areas would require the use of universal standard time.

[SheilaT]

48. If DU had been around back when standard time zones were established,

there would have been no end to the complaining here. People would have been railing at the dictatorial government forcing them to set their clocks to some artificial standard, and then hurled invective at a system that meant just crossing some invisible line meant the local time was an hour different. Members would have put up polls to determine what people really wanted. It would have gone on for years. At least the bitching about the switch between standard and daylight saving time only lasts for a day or two twice a year.

Personally, if I were dictator of the country I'd set all the clocks at the halfway point between standard time and daylight saving time and leave it at that. Meanwhile, I rather enjoy the changes. I'm back for a while to having daylight when I get up in the morning, even though the sun will set an hour earlier, according to the clock.

[LeftInTX]

54. India has one time zone - 1/2 hour different from the rest of the world

It's 12 noon here and 11:30 pm in Delhi.

India also had DST but ditched it awhile back

[SheilaT]

55. Actually, there are several countries or portions of countries

that are a half hour off from what ought to be their time zone.

Here's an amazing interactive map I just found via the google. http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/

What's quite amazing is some very anomalous things, such as the very eastern edge of Greenland being three hours different from the rest of the country -- they only have two time zones, which are three hours apart.

Then look at Australia. They've got time zones that are split north and south. I wonder if that's something relatively recent, because the last time I was there, in 2001, and travelled between Cairns and Sydney, I did not notice they were in different time zones. Maybe I have forgotten.

[Zorra]

49. No time change in AZ, and I really like it. nt

[immoderate]

53. That's what I liked about AZ when I lived there.

Joe Arpaio, not so much.

--imm

[LiberalElite]

51. It bothers me every year and YOU can get over it.

You're not in MY body, where I do feel the loss of the hour and can't wait till I get it back.

[Jamastiene]

52. Diarrhea probably happens about twice a year too, but

that doesn't mean anyone has to like it.

DST is all about greed and about beating an imperfect time counting method to fit and painting it to match. It's bullshit. Always has been and always will be.

[PumpkinAle]

57. Standard time is also an arbitarily

set standard based on GMT - a man made idea.

The British Medical Journal (BMJ) published a paper urging the end of regular time altogether and moving us permanently to what the British call “summer time.” According to the paper, “people are happier, more energetic, and less likely to be sick in the longer and brighter days of summer, whereas their mood tends to decline — and anxious and depressive states to intensify — during the shorter and duller days of winter.” The paper also notes that kids can be let out to play — and therefore get more exercise — if it’s not dark. The paper predicts fewer car crashes and more sports events when we extend daylight hours.

[pinboy3niner]

60. How come every January 1st I have to learn to write a new year on my checks?

What's up with that?

[phleshdef]

61. I like the time changes, shakes things up a bit!

Though that could just be a testament to how boring a life I lead, lol.