Daylight Saving Time Poll

[Nye Bevan]

44 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	I like the current system where the clocks change twice per year
	7 (16%)
	I would prefer Daylight Saving Time all year round (clocks never change; in winter sunrise and sunset would both be 1 hour later than now)
	11 (25%)
	I would prefer Standard Time all year round (clocks never change; in summer sunrise and sunset would both be 1 hour earlier than now)
	26 (59%)
	Something else
	0 (0%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[hunter]

1. Something else...

I complain about ALL THE CRAP this society forces me to eat.

Now that my kids are grown and moved away I mostly live by my own schedules. Time changes simply don't have much impact on me. I don't watch any scheduled television, don't listen to any scheduled radio, don't have a "nine to five" job.

I usually wake up an hour or so before the sun rises, paying no attention to the clock.

In an entirely naturalistic society all time would be local and adjusted daily by some algorithm keeping it in tune with the sun and seasons. People's own internal biorhythms and computerized "smart clocks" could easily handle this task. Only a few activities, such as airline schedules or conferences that gather people together from scattered geographical areas would require the use of universal standard time.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5747572

[rock]

2. I prefer either B or C

I just don't care which.

[unblock]

3. just to pick a nit, it's daylight "saving" time -- no second 's'.

[scarletwoman]

5. Oops! Didn't see your post before I posted mine!

[scarletwoman]

4. Just a little nitpick: it's Daylight Saving Time - no 's' at the end of "Saving".

No biggie - just one of those dumb things that drives me nuts.

Please excuse me and carry on.

[Nye Bevan]

6. Thanks, fixed (nt)

[Zorra]

7. AZ is on year round standard time,

and I really like this, and believe most folks here do as well.

[TM99]

28. Indeed.

The last thing AZ needs in the summer months is an extra hour of daylight!

[antiquie]

8. Another vote for one time all year round.

DST or ST, doesn't matter.

[petronius]

9. I think we should pass a law mandating that all time-keeping devices be

sun-synchronous; that they automatically make tiny adjustments every day to spread the DST changes evenly through the year...

[Ruby the Liberal]

10. I prefer how late it stays light in the summer

but thats selfish. I get the argument about school safety and having more light in the morning when it is pitch black, but if I had my druthers, I'd take summer hours all year around.

[yeoman6987]

11. I loved Day light savings!

Saves the environment. Too many use their selfish reasons for wanting to get rid of it. The kids go to school in dark/light just like we did. No change.

[scarletwoman]

15. How does it save the environment? Please explain. (nt)

[Reter]

18. Umm, less light bulbs maybe?

n/t

[scarletwoman]

19. Less light bulbs where?

How many big office buildings rely on natural light?

And for private homes, if it's dark in the morning instead of at night, all it means is that you're turning on your lights at a different time of day, not that you're totally going without artificial light.

See, I don't think there IS an energy-saving argument to be made. Not in a 24-hour world.

I think this whole Daylight Saving Time thing is just plain bullshit.

[Reter]

51. Only in the very early morning

Most people aren't up at 6:30 AM anyway. Most people are us at 8:00 PM.

[LWolf]

14. Of course,

if you live far enough north, which many of us do, it's still pitch black when kids are waiting for the bus or walking to school.

Now, though, it will also be dark when they are walking home after sports practice or whatever after school activity they may be involved in.

[Major Hogwash]

39. Are you old enough to remember going to school when it was pitch black outside?

Those are some of my favorite memories, walking to school when it was so dark, or the fog was so thick that ya couldn't see the school until you were a block away from it!

[Warpy]

52. So start the schools an hour later

Teenagers would love it.

[Mojorabbit]

53. I love it too

My husband used to love it because he got some outdoor time after work. We would sit on the dock with a glass of wine and watch the sunset. I miss those days.

[jwirr]

12. My small great grandchildren are waking up in the dark to get ready for the bus which also comes

before it is light.

[The2ndWheel]

13. Get rid of the clocks

It all sort of stems from the clocks existing, so cut it off at the source.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

16. Double Daylight Saving Time

Early Spring, move the clocks ahead an hour.
Late Spring, move them another hour.
Then reverse in early and late fall.

The first move ahead, we can call Daylight Saving Time. The second, Daylight Savings Time, with the added "s". Then everyone is correct on the name.

Anyway, welcome back to Standards Time!

[Lionel Mandrake]

20. I read somewhere that the Brits have "double summer time".

On the average they are farther north than the USA is, so they have more daylight in summer and less in winter.

[Reter]

17. Why would anyone want it to get darker earlier in the Summer?

53% are insane.

[Ilsa]

22. I would like it to be dark when I go to bed.

Since I live further south, it isn't much of an issue. But I suspect for people living further north, it can be a problem in summer.

[Reter]

49. Don't go to bed before 8:30

Problem solved.

[Ilsa]

56. Not everyone works 8-5 jobs.

As a nurse, there have been times when i needed to be at work at 6am. And the sun doesn't set at 8:30 for everyone; for some it's later. Problem not solved.

[LeftInTX]

30. I would. For me it's a heat/excerise issue.

[KMOD]

42. My husband would agree with you

Every year, twice a year, we differ on this.

I would just like to see it end. The time adjustments have an effect on me.

For him, every spring he's thrilled, and every fall, including all day today, he complains.

Edit to add: I'm not you are complaining, just that he is. And that he would agree with you that we're crazy.

[Adrahil]

45. I REALLY don't need it light at 10PM in the summer.

And that's what time it gets dark here around The end of June. Also, right now the kids trick or treat when the sun is up. What's up with that?

[Reter]

50. At peak, sun sets around 8:45

Never have a seen a 10:00 PM light night.

[Adrahil]

58. I live in Indiana... in the far west of the Eastern time zone....

.... the sun SETS before 10 (about 9:15PM), but it is noticeably light until 10.

[Reter]

59. That's friggin' awesome

I have lived in NYC all my life. I always thought it set the same time everywhere because of different time zones, except a few special places like Alaska.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

47. Heat and mosquitoes.

I may have reverse SAD... too much heat, humidity and blazing sun *depresses* me.

[shenmue]

21. I think I would have to be really drunk to figure this out

and I haven't had a drink yet, sorry.

[MineralMan]

23. I voted to stick with standard time, but

I'm also aware of the need for light in the early morning here in the Northern states. I live in Minnesota, and I hate the idea of kids walking to school or waiting for the bus in the dark. So, standard time works well here in the Winter months and helps them have some light in the early morning.

We don't really need Daylight Saving Time, either. During the summer months, our days are so long that it's light until after 9PM at the peak of the long days.

So, here in the northern states, staying on Standard Time all year makes perfect sense. We have no real need for Daylight Saving Time. It's not particularly useful here.

[LeftInTX]

34. I remember when they had DST in winter

I was in high school in Wisconsin.
The major disadvantage of going to school b4 sunrise was that it was the coldest time of the day. At least sunrise provides a few degrees of warmth.

[Blue_In_AK]

24. The whole concept is kind of silly in Alaska

where summer is going to be light and winter is going to be dark, no matter what the clocks say.

[LeftInTX]

35. So Alaska has DST - LOL?

Doesn't make any sense at all.

[Blue_In_AK]

36. Yes, we do, and it doesn't make any sense at all.

Another odd thing here is that some time ago the whole state (except for the Aleutians, I think) was put in one time zone so that different parts of the state could do business with each other. But when you're out in Nome, say, it actually looks like it's an hour earlier than it is in Anchorage, even though the clock says the same time.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

25. I really don't care. But, pick one or the other and stick with it. Make a commitment, people!

[d_r]

26. I think

next Spring when it is time to spring forward we shpuld all move them forward 1/2 hour, then never touch them again.

[catbyte]

27. I wish I lived in Hawai'i where it didn't matter

Instead of Michigan where it does, lol. Well, the Powerball is over $300M, so hope springs eternal.

[krispos42]

29. I voted for ST all around, with the caveat...

...that New England should be on Atlantic time. Add a 5th time zone to CONUS.

(And maybe that will help with the traffic on I-95... make the guys working in NY get moving an hour before the people staying in the state do!)

[undeterred]

31. I would like an extra hour of sleep twice a year.

[Major Hogwash]

32. SAD is a problem for some people in the Northern states.

When there is only about 7 hours of daylight.
So, many people don't like DST.

[Blue_In_AK]

37. It's a major problem here in the winter,

But time doesn't matter. It's only going to be light here in Anchorage for five and a half hours or so, regardless of what the clock says. In Barrow, it's dark 2-1/2 months.

[dixiegrrrrl]

38. SAD plus that jet lag feeling twice a year

for those who have problems with the adjustment.
Takes me about 2 days to feel "normal" when the clocks change.
Yawning as I type this and feel a nap coming on.

[Skittles]

33. if you had to go through the 14 hours I did at work all night

you would say NEVER CHANGE THE TIME - JUST PICK ONE AND F***ING STICK WITH IT

[onecent]

40. I'll take standard or daylight. JUST QUIT CHANGING IT TWICE A YEAR.

[H2O Man]

41. Other.

I'm retired, and largely a hermit. So the change doesn't really impact my daily life.

[longship]

43. I vote for sidereal time all year.

It would make all the astronomers happy.

[customerserviceguy]

44. I don't have a problem with it

Mainly because I've gotten used to it over my whole life. The only thing that took some adjusting is when they screwed with the dates to do the clock changes.

[Warren DeMontague]

46. I like it.

I like the late sunsets in the summer, but hate losing the Hour....i hate the early sunsets in the winter, but love getting the extra hour to sleep.

It doesnt bother me much, though. Im at an age where it feels like the years fly by pretty quick. Nothing stays the same for long.

[RB TexLa]

48. Either, just pick one and stay with it.

[jberryhill]

54. I want Metric Time

First, Babylonian Astrology is an inappropriate basis for our time, erroneously based on a 360 day, 12 month year.

We should have a 100 hour day, where each metric hour is about 15 minutes long, and there are ten minutes in the metric hour, of about 1.5 Babylonian minutes.

This will cause adjustment of some other metric units and physical constants as the SI System is fundamentally based on the meter, kilogram and second.

But that's the price to be paid for consistency.

Secondly, and this is just my preference, the resulting 100 time zones should be organized by latitude instead of longitude. Yes, I realize the sun doesn't go that way, but I think it would be cool.

As an option to that, I would just get rid of time zones and have a single time everywhere. After all, everyone is going to be getting used to the new system anyway, and you'll just have to know that at 75 hours, it is getting dark in North America and is morning in East Asia.

[HereSince1628]

57. Do we have semi-metric time as it is? 60 sec in a minute, 60 minutes in an hour

Multiples of 10 around a convenient unit of time...

Units of time seem to have emerged as convenient solutions to geometry of representations of the cyclic processes associated with time. Circles make good, albeit imperfect representations for cyclic processes whose periodicities aren't perfectly geometric...

This issue of building a representation of time becomes one of dividing 360 degrees of the circular representation into meaningful units of time that when added together don't have a rounding/estimation error that makes them impractical.

As a kid I wondered about how we came to 12 divisions for months and a clock face, and thought it might have been a consequence of choosing a simple geometric method to construct the analog with a compass Swinging arcs the length of the radius divides in 6. Six is a nice number to divide into 360 degrees as well as a daily cycle if it is roughly a 24 hour day. Dividing the resulting angle at the origin with a compass and straight edge would work. Alternatively, awareness of the pythagorean relationship 3,4,5 for sides of a right triangle produces a 30 degree angle that will nicely divide a circle into 12 units.

Your comment that the Babylonian year is based on 360 (the degrees in a circle, and a rough approximation of year length) divided into 12 months sort of looks similar to what I imagined as a kid as the original orientation to representing hours, days and years

[Jamastiene]

55. I think we should measure time the right way to begin with.

We all know winters have shorter days and summers have longer days. We should just measure time according to how we already know sunrise and sunset will be on any given day of the year. It's stupid to measure time wrong and have to adjust a bunch of clocks all the time when business could just as easily be open from x hour to x hour depending on the time of year. It doesn't have to be set in stone that business hours are 9 to 5, and school is x hour to x hour, and other times are x hour to x hour...blah blah blah. That's bullshit. Just count time the right way to begin with and adjust "business" hours accordingly. They can buy signs where they can change the numbers and the rest of us won't have to bend over backwards to conform to their demands.

[jberryhill]

60. Kind of like Islamic prayer times

Just divvy up a few more segments.