Des Moines poll was bullshit!

[hrmjustin]

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/garin-hart-yang-d-braley-21276?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

New reliable poll has it tied.

Yesterdays Des moines poll had it tied. The pollster said the race was decided. I think the poster is an asshole and should shut the hell up.

Pardon my language but this stuff pisses me off.

[rurallib]

1. The DMR is a Gannet paper and as such has a corporate mission

It has been a rag for decades, but its previous good reputation continues to be carried along with the name

[47of74]

2. Most of the papers in this here state are rags

I say they should be printed on biodegradable toilet paper so that when people are done reading them they can do you know what with them.

[rurallib]

3. I used to have some grudging respect for the Gazette

they were admittedly Repuiblican but not crazy. Then they hired that editor from the Muscy Journal and changed course.

[demwing]

4. and of course, RCP still has the outlier as the most recent poll

[Ken Burch]

14. Of course it does...RCP stands for Republican Corporate Politics. n/t.

[Major Hogwash]

5. Iowa is pretty conservative, but not looney, bat shit crazy!

It's not like they elect douchebags like Michele Bachmann!

[DesMoinesDem]

6. Nate Silver gives Selzer an A+ and says it is one of the most accurate in the country.

[hrmjustin]

7. She is still wrong on this one.

[DesMoinesDem]

8. Based on what?

You can't just dismiss polls because you don't like the result.

[hrmjustin]

11. based on every poll that came out at the same time is different form this one.

It is an outlier

[mvd]

9. K&R

I think the other poll is an outlier and a suspicious one at that.

[tritsofme]

10. Do you judge the reliability of polls based on how much you like the results?

Or what exactly is your criteria?

[hrmjustin]

12. Polls that are different from the recent polling are outliers.

[tritsofme]

13. I agree it is likely to be an outlier.

But that does not necessarily make it "bullshit." Nate Silver talks up this pollster as very credible, so that is something to consider.

[hrmjustin]

15. Nate Silver is right that she is a good pollster but she got it wrong.

[tritsofme]

16. Hope you are right!

[hrmjustin]

17. Me too! I hope it works out.

[DesMoinesDem]

18. This thread is a great reminder not to dismiss polls from very accurate pollsters

just because you don't like the numbers.
"The pollster is an asshole and should shut the hell up"

[stevenleser]

19. In hrmjustin's defense, if you're not from Iowa and not in the biz of politics, you don't know that

the DesMoines Register poll is THE poll for what's happening in Iowa. They seem to know exactly how to sample and measure what's happening there.

I can see how other folks would have viewed that poll as an outlier not knowing all of that.

[hrmjustin]

20. So we were supposed to accept defeat?

Whatever!

[DesMoinesDem]

21. How is acknowledging that a poll could be accurate accepting defeat?

You still vote. You still try to get your candidate elected. You don't completely dismiss the poll and call the pollster an asshole.

[hrmjustin]

22. it is a bad day and I am in no mood to argue.

What I said a few days ago was in the heat of battle. I didn't see this coming.

[GGJohn]

23. I don't think any of us saw this coming!!!

I figured we'd lose a couple of Senate seats, but we didn't expect it to be this bad!!!!

After the majority of races were called last night, I opened a bottle of Scotch and got hammered, now I've got a splitting headache and it didn't help soothe the pain of the loss.
Hopefully, your day will get better.

[hrmjustin]

24. Thanks and I hope you feel better as well.