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MOSCOW, November 2 (RIA Novosti) - North Korea has deployed a new submarine, capable of carrying ballistic missiles, another step forward in the nuclear weapon development.
Sources in the government of South Korea have said that the North imported a Soviet-era Golf-class diesel submarine and modified it, according to a Yonhap News report. Subs of this series are also known as Project 629. They are powered with a hybrid diesel-electric engine and are able to carry ballistic missiles and/or Scud missiless. Golf-class subs had been in Soviet service in 1958-1990 and were decommissioned thereafter.
Described as ancient marine technology in a report by the International Strategy and Assessment Center, these subs may pose serious danger to the South, Japan and the US forces in the region. It is alleged that several of Golf-class subs were purchased from Russia in 1993 by foreign entities.
"The new submarine is 67 meters long with a beam of 6.6 meters, and has a dived displacement in the 3,000-tonne range," Yonhaps source in Seoul said. The vessel is able to carry single-stage, liquid-propellant missiles with a 1,180-kilogram warhead and a maximum range of 1,420 kilometers. The shortest distance between North Koreas Sinpo, where the sub was spotted, and Japan is 650 km.
It is alleged that the North has modified the imported vessel. Although Seoul claims Pyongyang does not have submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBMs) technology, certain developments in this area of technology have been reported recently. In September, South Koreas Joint Chiefs of Staff said that there is no intelligence yet that North Korea has an SLBM in operation. But the possibility of a North Korean submarine equipped with an SLBM has been detected recently, as quoted by the International Business Times.
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GGJohn
(9,951 posts)they're noisy and easy for western navies to detect, it would not surprise me if it's already picked up a US Los Angeles class or a Virginia class H/K sub.
EX500rider
(10,848 posts)Western defense analysts in Moscow say that Russia is selling 10 ballistic missile-capable Golf II-class submarines to North Korea. The analysts maintain that North Korea could install modified Nodong-1 missiles on the submarines. Although the Russian Navy insists that the submarines will be dismantled under Russian military observation, Western analysts believe that North Korea may cannibalize the submarines for parts and that knowledge of these submarines will help it to improve its own submarine technology.
Yonhap (Seoul), 18 January 1994; in JPRS-TND-94-003, 31 January 1994, pp.45-46.
(Note: The concern that North Korea might use the submarines as a launch platform for its ballistic missiles is not as farfetched as it may at first appear. The first Soviet submarine launched ballistic missile (SLBM), the SS-N-4 Sark, was a Scud derivative, and was originally deployed on Golf-class submarines. A Scud-C may be adaptable to an SLBM role, but, at 15.5 meters in length, the Nodong-1 is one meter longer than the SS-N-4 and would not fit in a Golf launch tube without modification. The modification referred to may be a shortening of the missile, which would also shorten the range of the missile. It is not unreasonable to assume that North Korea may have had access to SLBM technology as the precursor to the SS-N-4, the R-11FM, was transferred to China in December 1959. China still uses the Golf-class submarine as an SLBM training and test platform. Additionally, it should be noted that the Russian scientists recruited in late 1992 were from the Makeyev Design Bureau, which is responsible for the design of all modern Russian SLBMs.)
http://cns.miis.edu/archive/country_north_korea/chr9495.htm
Archae
(46,327 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Aren't these those rust encrusted hulks.
scarystuffyo
(733 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)rppper
(2,952 posts)Very loud, even with new motors. The missiles are in the rear portion of the sail. The soviets replaced these years ago. It's a derivative of the German type XXI u-boat of late WWII. Even updated it's a nearly a 50 year old design and the Japanese have a very modern, capable navy, including better, quieter diesel subs and asw capability on par with any modern navy.
greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)They have screen portholes!!!
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)NK has no experience with submarines and NK has no regard for the lives of their people.
EX500rider
(10,848 posts)http://strategypage.com/qnd/korea/articles/20141103.aspx