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KENTUCKY: Are You Buying What Mitch Is Selling? (Original Post) napkinz Nov 2014 OP
Hopefully not. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #1
Well if they're buying, they're dying napkinz Nov 2014 #5
I read somewhere that the very voters we need for a Dem victory... theHandpuppet Nov 2014 #14
not voting, or voting Republican, is voting against her own interests ... napkinz Nov 2014 #35
How much are turtle shells going for on the open market? SummerSnow Nov 2014 #2
Alison has one day to challenge him on it. kentuck Nov 2014 #3
you mean she hasn't been hitting him on this issue????? napkinz Nov 2014 #7
the conservadem chose to disown obama and not use Kynect as a campaign issue from what msongs Nov 2014 #4
Dems don't use anything except trying to pretend they do't know Obama. world wide wally Nov 2014 #11
There are many Kentuckians are not buying his nonsense.... CherokeeDem Nov 2014 #6
From the little snippets I have seen of Grimes, and the quotes pangaia Nov 2014 #12
You're wrong.... CherokeeDem Nov 2014 #15
He doesn't have a voice, Unknown Beatle Nov 2014 #8
I especially love the last one napkinz sheshe2 Nov 2014 #9
too bad the rest of the media aren't being as persistent napkinz Nov 2014 #17
To a small extent she is~ sheshe2 Nov 2014 #20
if he wins, we have THIS to look forward to ... napkinz Nov 2014 #22
from that article back in May napkinz Nov 2014 #26
If people buy his bullshit, I'm sorry, but it's just too bad for them. world wide wally Nov 2014 #10
But then WE are stuck with the results as well. pangaia Nov 2014 #13
That is what really pisses me off. world wide wally Nov 2014 #23
"The Senator who will say Anything to get Re-elected".. Cha Nov 2014 #16
he's despicable napkinz Nov 2014 #18
"Mitch has sabotaged Jobs and Transportation Bills..."of course, he has.. he's a good ol Koch boy.. Cha Nov 2014 #19
ad from Alison Grimes regarding his Koch addiction ... napkinz Nov 2014 #24
"Hard Working Kentuckians Cannot Trust Mitch McConnell"!.. No Shite.. have truer words been Cha Nov 2014 #27
too bad most Americans don't know who the Koch brothers are and how napkinz Nov 2014 #32
... napkinz Nov 2014 #25
I wish Alison SableonBlonde Nov 2014 #21
where was Chuck Todd? napkinz Nov 2014 #28
The corporatemedia=the goPropaganda Big Lie Machine.. they wouldn't turn on one of their own. Cha Nov 2014 #29
goPropaganda Big Lie Machine napkinz Nov 2014 #30
Hey napkinz.. I was calling it the Big Lie Machine back in 2002 when I joined a Cha Nov 2014 #31
it's going to keep getting worse if Americans don't wake up napkinz Nov 2014 #33
kick napkinz Nov 2014 #34
one last kick! napkinz Nov 2014 #36
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
1. Hopefully not.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 07:44 PM
Nov 2014

But who knows?

This might be a state where "If you keep your health care, the uppity n____r wins" works as a vote pitch.

We can only hope the voters are smarter than that. Working folks should be.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
5. Well if they're buying, they're dying
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 07:50 PM
Nov 2014

500,000 Kentucky residents would lose their health insurance if Mitch has his way



theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
14. I read somewhere that the very voters we need for a Dem victory...
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 08:23 PM
Nov 2014

...i.e., women and minority voters, have a greater tendency to NOT vote in off years. I hope to hell that a lot of women who normally wouldn't vote will turn out for Alison. I'm trying to keep my hopes up.

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
3. Alison has one day to challenge him on it.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 07:49 PM
Nov 2014

Will she ask him if he is still for repealing Obamacare? And isn't "Kynect" and Obamacare the same thing? Isn't it time for him to tell the voters that, before they are tricked into voting for him?

msongs

(67,406 posts)
4. the conservadem chose to disown obama and not use Kynect as a campaign issue from what
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 07:50 PM
Nov 2014

Ive read on DU at least

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
11. Dems don't use anything except trying to pretend they do't know Obama.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 08:14 PM
Nov 2014

They say his popularity is too low, so they pretend to support the policies of the congress with an approval rating of 9%

Can anyone figure out where the Dems went wrong this year?

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
6. There are many Kentuckians are not buying his nonsense....
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 07:51 PM
Nov 2014

The key here is voter turnout... and all we can do is hope.

I watched that debate where this piece of crap said he was going to get rid of Obamacare in Kentucky but we get to keep the pretty website. Allison should have slapped him silly when he said that.

I am trying not to get disillusioned but increasingly the American public is voting against its best interest for these thieves, thugs and charlatans.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
12. From the little snippets I have seen of Grimes, and the quotes
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 08:15 PM
Nov 2014

I have read... I gotta say,, blechk.....To paraphrase the old saying, she has brought a wet noodle to a gun fight.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
15. You're wrong....
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 08:35 PM
Nov 2014

Find a You Tube of the debate and see for yourself.

"Blechk" or not she is far better than McConnell for this state and for this nation. Would I have preferred another candidate? Yes. Was I unhappy with her answer about voting for Obama? You betcha! But then I am unhappy with all Democrats running from Obama.

I have been surprised at how well she has done and how smart and articulate she is (barring the no answer on voting). Her campaign has been well-run and they have a huge ground effort in place. The majority of her ads have been very well done... all in all... we can't complain about the candidate. It's now up to the voters.... let's hope they come through.

No candidate is perfect, if anyone believes the candidate of their choice is going to agree with them 100% is very naïve. At the moment, she is what we've got... and we're going for it.

BTW.... the restaurant her family owns that the press is going on about "Hugh Jass" is a very popular restaurant right on one of the main intersections of UK. I'm certain the college students love the name and the fun... place is packed every time I've been by.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
8. He doesn't have a voice,
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 08:03 PM
Nov 2014

his talking points come via the koch sucker brothers.

The koch brothers own his ass.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
17. too bad the rest of the media aren't being as persistent
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:18 PM
Nov 2014

I would hope there is an ad campaign hammering him on this ... but from what others have said in responding to this post, no such effort has been made by the party or Alison Grimes

and that's unconscionable










sheshe2

(83,770 posts)
20. To a small extent she is~
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:35 PM
Nov 2014

Read more about her at the link, napkinz.

Meanwhile, there are signs the Kentucky press sees this as a real story. As a very tough editorial in the Kentucky Herald Leader puts it:

Nothing could be more connected — or should be more important to Kentucky’s senior senator — than the fates of the more than 400,000 Kentuckians who are getting health insurance, many for the first time, and the federal Affordable Care Act, which is making that possible. [...]

As a result of a law that McConnell wants to repeal, one in 10 of his constituents no longer have to worry that an illness or injury will drive them into personal bankruptcy or a premature grave.

Repealing the federal law would also end the Medicaid expansion that is enabling Kentucky to expand desperately needed drug treatment and mental health services. [...]

Kentuckians are waiting to learn if their five-term senator understands — or cares — how much is at stake
.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/05/28/grimes-hits-back-on-obamacare-mitch-mcconnell-is-in-fantasyland/

Not great but, there you have it. Damn I hope she wins this, I never want to see that mans face again.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
26. from that article back in May
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 10:14 PM
Nov 2014

Now the Grimes campaign is finally hitting McConnell over his gyrations on the issue, accusing him of “voting to destroy Kynect.” From Grimes senior adviser Jonathan Hurst:

Mitch McConnell has been in the fantasyland that is Washington for so long that he cannot tell the difference between fact and fiction. McConnell has voted to destroy Kynect — and he has said he will do it again. In the U.S. Senate, Alison Lundergan Grimes will fix the law to ensure it is working for all Kentuckians.


I wish she had continued hammering him on this issue. I wish she had done an an all-out ad blitz for the past five months.

Well, now it's just wait until Tuesday and hope!






world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
10. If people buy his bullshit, I'm sorry, but it's just too bad for them.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 08:10 PM
Nov 2014

Let them take all the pride they want in being stupid. Just keep them there.

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
23. That is what really pisses me off.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:57 PM
Nov 2014

But it doesn't seem like the candidates care that much. Of douse, the only race I am seeing first hand is Colorado, but I haven't heard very much at all about Dems bragging about their own accomplishments or nailing the Repunks on how they have screwed up the country.

You can't play the game without some balls

Cha

(297,240 posts)
16. "The Senator who will say Anything to get Re-elected"..
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:16 PM
Nov 2014


Mahalo, napkinz [font color=blue][font size=lg]TURN KENTUCKY BLUE![/font][/font]

Cha

(297,240 posts)
19. "Mitch has sabotaged Jobs and Transportation Bills..."of course, he has.. he's a good ol Koch boy..
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:33 PM
Nov 2014



PERFECT!

Mahalo, napkinz! [font color=blue][font size=lg]TURN KENTUCKY BLUE! GOTV2014[/font][/font]

Cha

(297,240 posts)
27. "Hard Working Kentuckians Cannot Trust Mitch McConnell"!.. No Shite.. have truer words been
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 10:31 PM
Nov 2014

spoken in a campaign ad?!

Mitch.."I want to thank Charles and David Koch for the Important Work they're doing"..



Mahalo, napkinz! [font color=blue][font size=lg]TURN KENTUCKY BLUE! GOTV2014[/font][/font]

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
32. too bad most Americans don't know who the Koch brothers are and how
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 11:16 AM
Nov 2014

their money is corrupting our political process




SableonBlonde

(5 posts)
21. I wish Alison
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:40 PM
Nov 2014

would have embraced the ACA from the start; it's been a huge success in Kentucky. Her stance has been, at best, tepid support in her effort to eschew anything remotely related to the President. But on the other hand, she's trying to get elected in the state that's kept McConnell in for 30 years, so...

Instead of harping on Grimes' refusal to admit she voted for Obama (which was admittedly stupid), the mainstream media should have been reporting the outright lies and complete BS spewed by McConnell in that debate and elsewhere. Grimes initially made the voting comment to the Courier-Journal editorial board; McConnell refused to meet with them. In the debate, McConnell said repeatedly that Kynect is a "website" and spewed the "I'm not a scientist" crap on climate change. The MSM should have been all over his ass.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
31. Hey napkinz.. I was calling it the Big Lie Machine back in 2002 when I joined a
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 09:55 AM
Nov 2014

site called "The Fringe Left".. or something like that. It was after what Bush called the War ON Iraq Protesters.. the "fringe left".

I was spouting my little head off about the Big Lie Machine.. and then later added the very descriptive GOPropaganda. I guess more people are noticing now.. so it hasn't all been for nothing. It's just they haven't Stopped.. only gotten worse and are imploding themselves.

Good Morning.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
33. it's going to keep getting worse if Americans don't wake up
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 11:25 AM
Nov 2014

too many don't question; too many choose to remain uninformed; too many are misinformed





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