Some of the lowest and most horrible people on the planet post at Discussionist.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

I know, I've seen the warnings here, but I thought I'd see run of the mill climate change deniers, anti-immigration types, handgun fetishists. And I do see those people there. But some of the least capable, mean-spirited, barely-literate pond monkeys you've ever seen have a huge presence there. Some of them are quite incapable of posting anything more intelligent, meaningful, or multisyllabic than "traitor lib" or "suck it, dem". There also appears to be a big movement afoot to label black people as "the real racists". A good number of the OP sources are from Breitbart.com--but this makes for easy pickings; it's formulaic--go to the breitbart article, find the article it sources from, then go back and destroy the argument at hand with the mitigating information that breitbart conveniently left out.

I had thought to find a few smart conservatives to argue with, and I thought I'd just ignore the children. But just being there starts to make me feel all wrong with the world after a time, depressed. Truly, it's a filthy place. Even the rightwingers who don't post the most egregious stuff happily participate in threads with the most vile content, never thinking to stop and correct their brethren. This is normal to them. This is the toxicity they swim in. If I lived amongst people like that, the over/under on me climbing a clock tower would be about 4 days.

Their view of Democrats/liberals is one-dimensional, unless .5-dimensional is possible. I don't begrudge them their big win from Tuesday, but for many of them, victory taunts is all they have, and it appears for all the world that the taunts don't just come after a big election win for them--I think it's all they intend to do, now, next week, next year, whenever. If this is the future of our country, we're so very, very fucked. I'm not real fond of obnoxious stupidity, but I can honestly say this is the worst I've seen. I looked at FR way back during the Bush admin, and they were a bunch of zeroes, but honestly, the FR of 10 years ago doesn't hold a candle to these limbic creatures.

Moral of the story? Hell, I don't know. But don't make the same mistake I did in assuming you'd be able to find someone intelligent with whom to argue issues. They don't exist at that site.

[JI7]

1. that will be the result when you have a forum that is open to everyone

the reason places usually have limits is not just disagreement but because of the vileness that results without it.

[Spazito]

2. Yep, I checked it out for a nanosecond when it first arrived...

it seems the cesspool from Free Republic have found a new home.

[Barack_America]

7. Well, Rimjob never did come through with those promised servers, did he?

[Spazito]

11. LOL, I guess not...

and with the Freepers now ensconced at Discussionist his fundraisers must be 24/7 all year just to feed the hamsters.

[onehandle]

3. Yeah, but it makes coin for DU's owners.

And isn't that what's important to us all?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

8. I don't think that was their purpose. n/t

[Rex]

18. A couple of people keep saying that, yet last I checked both sites are free.

[JI7]

45. the money is made through clicks to the site

[Rex]

70. Still free to post here.

Which is the point, so there are ads so what I looked at them for years and years.

[Scootaloo]

54. Ad revenue

You know, from the stuff that your star keeps you from having to see

[Rex]

69. So, you guys can change the subject all you want to

It is still free to sign up at both sites and post until you drop...which was my point until the subject got changed to ads.

[savalez]

78. Ads is how they make money. Same subject.

Over the air network television is free too. Yet they make a ton of money.

[KoKo]

87. If they use Firefox they have "Ad Block" and never see an ad..

so how can Skinner be making money out of this?

Makes no sense.

[Thor_MN]

98. And a person can mute their TV during commercials, yet somehow networks still make money.

The advertisers pay for the ad to be "broadcast", they don't pay for it to be seen, as they can't force anyone to watch an ad.

[JI7]

43. i'm pretty sure that was the main purpose

[NanceGreggs]

55. And, pray tell, what do you think the purpose was? n/t

[CaliforniaPeggy]

66. I think it was what Skinner said:

And I'm paraphrasing here. It was something about wanting to have a forum where all points of view were welcome, and all political persuasions too. He thought (IIRC) that this was not something that could be done here on DU.

This is what I remember him saying.

Good to see you here, Nance.

[NanceGreggs]

72. Discussionist is a business venture ...

... not an altruistic gathering place for the exchange of differing views.

And it was a smart business move. Website traffic here on DU goes up when people are arguing with each other, and I'm sure Skinner was smart enough to notice that trend.

So what better way to attract high traffic than create a site where everyone is arguing with everyone else over everything, 24/7?

Like I said, smart business move.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

83. Here's what Skinner had to say about Discussionist:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10133832

[NanceGreggs]

84. Yes, I saw that when he posted it, Peggy.

It doesn't change the fact that it's a business venture meant to generate money.

[KoKo]

88. People here on DU for YEARS kept asking Skinner to Open Up

Discussion to RW...whatever that "Rim Job" or whatever site was...so that people could Discuss here with them. Skinner always resisted.

But...I felt that DU Admins were upset about 2012 Dem Convention...and sick of the Politics of it all after that...and felt there were better ways to spend their efforts than just listening to "endless arguments" amongst Dems of "All Stripes + Trolls" and it just became boring. "DU Groups" where few Participated after begging to HAVE A GROUP and just the Endless Angst of Policing the Place became overwhelming once they had family and kids to raise.

I went over to "Discussionist" a few times...and it was cold to me and not inviting with Topics and Groups like Original DU..but I thought would appeal to very young people used to sparring on their I-Phones or whatever Mobiles for quick trashing of each other.

It wasn't DU...but, then DU wasn't always what we thought it was, either.

Anyway....the way things are going...I applaud them for starting that site which was long requested by some here on DU...and hope that they do make some money out of it. We are long past the days of "Dem Party Building" on Democratic Sites...so life moves on and people have to feed themselves and families.

[savalez]

76. Ha!

[Recursion]

94. I always assumed the purpose was that the Discussionist posters are *there* and not *here*

For which I'm grateful...

[Rex]

17. Why it's free?

Why do people keep saying that? It cost nothing to sign up there or here.

[JonLP24]

22. Are there ads?

I don't have an opinion either but if there ads then they see revenue from that site.

[Rex]

24. There are ads on every website you go to.

So signing up is free, I've surfed here with ads for years and years.

[JonLP24]

28. The point you contended to

was coin for DU owners. You seemed to dispute that when they make their revenue from advertising.

99% of money made from Facebook is advertising.

[geek tragedy]

34. We're not the customer, we're the product. nt

[BrotherIvan]

23. Advertising

Advertising impressions generate $$, click throughs even more. It's rather rapacious in my opinion.

[Rex]

25. I spent years here and never spent a single dime.

Yeah ads, just like everywhere else on the internet. Signing up is free. They could have made DU3 a total pay for site, but didn't.

[BrotherIvan]

27. The advertisers pay, not you

[JI7]

75. they wouldn't make as much money

If they did that

[Rex]

77. So. Not my point. This place is free.

Why would you begrudge them from making money? How much money have you put into DU over the years?

[JI7]

86. I have no problem with it and would not

Expect them to do otherwise.

My post was to those who say it''s not a business just because people dont have to pay to post.

[Recursion]

95. They get one one thousandth of a cent for every ad view they generate

(Or whatever the actual number is.) Or possibly a whole shiny penny for every click one of those ads gets. Or even possibly a commission on anything sold after a click through. Those are the three main revenue models for online advertising, and presumably they do some combination of that.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

49. So is Huffington Post. Whatshername sold HP for $315 million dollars.

[SidDithers]

63. Are you saying that the Admins don't deserve to make a living...

from the message board software they created?

I hope they're making tons of money from Discussionist. The only time it affects DU is when one of the perpetually outraged complains about Discussionist over here.

Sid

[onehandle]

80. See OP.

They are making coin by providing space for the enemy.

Disgusting.

[Union Scribe]

93. Good, I'm glad it does.

Those cons would be idiots online no matter what, so it's funny as hell that they're helping DU's owners. It's about time their obsession with DU turns a profit.

[shenmue]

4. I signed up early

but it stopped accepting my name and password. It still doesn't work, no matter how many times I tried to change it.

Now that I think of it, maybe I'm lucky.

[BrotherIvan]

26. In my opinion, you have a much too beautiful a heart to enter into that dungeon

Keep your squee for us!

[shenmue]

29. Thank you

Very kind of you.

[BrotherIvan]

31. Thank YOU

Squeefully yours

[shenmue]

32. :)

[L0oniX]

5. DI jury participation can be fun ...really pisses off the troll socks.

[Barack_America]

6. Sounds like a fun place to troll?

Never been there.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

10. You'd think it would be fun, but no.

Verbally destroying violent, petulant individuals who never developed emotionally past the third grade or so loses its appeal in a hurry.

[RKP5637]

19. They feed on each other continuously lowering the common denominator to yet another low. n/t

[think]

9. The only positive thing from visiting Discussionist is

appreciating DU all the more....

[Rex]

16. That is true.

[City Lights]

12. I haven't been able to stomach that cesspool for awhile now.

It's gotten worse with time, IMO. For awhile there were threads that were worth my time, and there were some conservatives that were polite and respectful, but they were in the minority. The venom spewed by most of them proved too toxic to stomach for me and I stopped going there, even to lurk.

[hopemountain]

13. yup. i avoid sewers. nt.

[LawDeeDah]

14. anything for money

[ChisolmTrailDem]

44. Goes to show some people will compromise their principles in order to make that cash...

It's all about the Benjamins...

[Jim Lane]

71. I don't see it as a compromise of principles.

Some DUers who criticize Discussionist seem to assume that if you create a new online message board, and a bunch of right-wingers post right-wing stuff there, then the result is a gain for the right wing. I've never followed that logic.

It's not as if, before Discussionist, there was no place online for such posts. For example, if some Freepers have moved from FR to Discussionist, the only real difference is that the DU admins are getting some money out of those right-wing posts.

Does anyone believe that the net effect of Discussionist is to influence centrists or independents and move them toward the right? In fact, does anyone believe that Discussionist has any net effect at all on the real world?

[Codeine]

107. There's a group of posters here

who believe discussion boards - that tiny, miniscule fraction of a fraction of a percent of a microscopic iota of all internet activity - are powerful motivators and influencers. I disagree.

[Codeine]

105. How is Skinner compromising his principles?

"You guys are idiot mouthbreathers -- here's a place to be idiotic. Have fun."

It's like renting a house to a Republican; the landlord doesn't have to agree with what the tenant is saying so long as he's getting his rent payments.

[2banon]

15. I think I took a quick glance once, just out of curiousity

but immediately my assumptions were quite apparent, and I remain puzzled why anyone would care to engage on any lever there. It seems to me there's more than enough right wing ignorance here to contend with...but that's just me...

[Kalidurga]

20. It's not too bad if you put more than half the RW nuts on ignore...

That leaves you with Liberals and Independents and a few Conservatives...

You are right though I have a few I haven't put on ignore, yet that can be very vile. I keep them around to see how the other side thinks and they can usually type out their thoughts without being too obnoxious, ymmv I have a pretty thick hide.

[jaysunb]

21. They are our relatives, neighbors, co-workers, maybe even

considered friends.
The internet gives voice to inner thoughts of the righteously demented as well as some who manage to blend in among us.

[shenmue]

30. Some of them may be pods

I saw "Invasion of the Body Snatchers."

[jaysunb]

33. LOL ! n/t

[silvershadow]

36. LOL! nt

[Cha]

35. "Traitor lib" Rofl

[Gothmog]

90. I do not take the conservatives on Discussionist seriously

The conservatives on that board are fun to play with and are unable to debate any issue. I have a high tolerance for stupid people and racists and so have fun on that site playing with these idiots

[Cha]

92. And, I have no tolerance whatsoever.. so I looked and got the hell outta there. Have fun.:)

[jimlup]

37. Yeah Discussionist has not become a place to have intelligent conversations

I agree but don't despair about the people of the country. Those yahoos are only representative of extremists who are both ignorant and intolerant.

[LawDeeDah]

100. the Freepers must be happy to have a new and better place to shit in.

I wonder how much $$$ a pound of shit goes for these days. Whatever, money rules, integrity droolz.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

38. Most of these people aren't even into politics....

You will go to their home pages or websites and they will be into sports or video games or music or TV or ANYTHING but politics.

Then these types hear there's an election coming up and it's like a switch goes off in their head to be a complete ASSHOLE to the "Libs" and have fun with that like it's a sporting event and then laugh if they can make some "Libs" cry and then go back to what they were doing before as if they got bored with it.

[defacto7]

39. I spent about 2 hours total in maybe 6 visits before ditching my user password.

The real problem.... it gives one more voice to liberal opposition. That site is NOT helpful to any left wing cause... on the contrary... it's damaging.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

40. It's a piece of shit way to treat that software, that's for certain! Fuck Discussionist. nt

[JoeyT]

41. I've got a feeling DU would look like that,

were it not for the efforts of MIRT and them being so good at weeding out trolls and the irredeemably stupid.

We may fight like two wet cats in a sack over here, but at least we're coherent.

[Marr]

42. Yeah, I don't care for it either.

We've got some loony assholes here as well, of course, but they're springing up like daisies at Discussionist.

[mokawanis]

46. Hate to think how far the rightwingers would go without juries and hides

Some pretty foul comments get through the jury system, but if that weren't in place they'd be much worse. Without juries and hides, a lot of them would go all-out with their hatred and racism.

Another thing you'll find is that the repeat offenders that have been ppr'd and return over and over again with socks are rightwingers.

[Cleita]

47. You reminded me that I have to start posting back there again.

If all you have are FoxNews and other disgusting misinformation there, then they win. I just went in with two posts and facts on a solar energy post just now. We'll see if I get alerted on. I was polite. However, if you want them to win then just let them post away all the crap they want to.

[Fumesucker]

48. I came to DU from usenet political newsgroups, even DI is mild compared to that

Dealing with that is a skill like any other, hang out in the kiddy pool all the time and you'll never learn to swim.

"It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle." -Sun Tzu

If you want to defeat your enemies you should learn as much about them as possible, what better way to learn about your enemies than to talk to them and ask them directly?

Self knowledge is also good when it comes to defeating enemies, relating only to those on your own side does not increase self knowledge nearly as fast as relating to both sides.

[TheKentuckian]

74. Been watching these guys a long time now and maybe that is why I have a book on them

but I see nothing particularly useful that requires more than spot checking just to make sure the simulation hadn't developed errors.

They aren't in charge of anything, they aren't the enemy they are pawns of the real enemies and do little more than parrot the passed down talking points about the same bullshit from the Bircher period.

These folks are not knowing anything of consequence.

[MrScorpio]

50. You know, I haven't posted there in like the last couple of weeks...

I've always said that I'm only going to continue to post there as long as it's fun. Well, after all of this time it's gotten really tedious and boring. The main reason is because the wingers there (and a great many of the so-called purer-than-thou lefties) are all too predictable in their responses.

All of their bullshit operates like clockwork and I'm pretty much tired of their morose and obtuse talking points. A great many posters on that site are complete morons, who couldn't think their way out of paper bag. Context is a completely foreign concept to most of them. The worst part of it is that they have absolutely no idea just how ignorant they are.

Another soul sucking aspect of the place is the pettiness and mean-spiritedness. They aren't nice people in the least. They have this weird idea that being a feckless asshole is some kind of virtue to be admired or respected. One thing about wingerism that I've discovered by being there is that it works in two ways; it attracts assholes and it turns otherwise innocuous morons into a life of assholism.

The racism there is simply mind boggling. Without a lick of irony, they engage in racist ideology and accuse anyone of challenging their bullshit of being racist themselves. The place behaves just like a Klan cross lighting ceremony without the keen fashion sense.

I spent quite a while there understand more about people that I have never had the opportunity to encounter. Most people, especially most white people that I have ever known would be appalled by the sheer stupidity and racism of those assholes. The posters on that site think that their ideas are part and parcel of mainstream American thinking.

They have no idea just how out of touch from the real world that they actually are.

Fuck those people.

[Arkansas Granny]

57. I have noticed your absence.

Being an old white woman living in the south, I thought I had already seen and heard the worst of racist remarks and attitudes, but I was wrong. There is a level of disrespect and hatred revealed there that surpasses anything I have experienced IRL.

The level of ignorance of some posters was also disappointing. They seem to wear it like a badge of honor and won't even consider proven fact if it doesn't agree with their world view. Not only do they deny the evidence, they feel compelled to spew venom and hatred when confronted with knowledge.

I don't post there very often as there are only a few of the rw posters that you can have a conversation with, even if you never agree on the subject at hand.

[Gothmog]

89. The Many of the conservatives are truly very stupid people are

I admit that I play with the idiot conservative on Discussionist just to have fun. These idiots are far too stupid to make an intelligent argument or to know how to respond to any facts they did not hear on fox or brietbart. These idiots actually think that O'Keefe is a credible source

I have given up hoping to get in a real debate on Discussionist

[Gothmog]

109. A couple more of the idiot conservatives are on vacations

I enjoyed your Thanksgiving post and hope that you come back to play.

Some of the threads could use your participation.

[MrScorpio]

110. I appreciate it that you guys miss me

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But right now, I'm trying to preserve my sanity. I really don't like the person that I have to become whenever I'm dealing with those people.

I pretty much understand both what I need to know about them and what I need to know about my own beliefs after spending my time there.

For one, it's a fact that the wingers there are not nice people at all. They're very much as bad as you can get. I don't want to interact with them if I don't need to and I really don't need to anymore. And second, no amount of talking to them is going to change their minds. The more you'll prove them wrong, the more intent they'll be to remain wrong.

So, it's a free country, if the wingers want to be ignorant, hateful and dumb, so be it. They're grown ups. But just because they are that way doesn't mean that they're right. To them, being wrong is right and that's enough.

[Gothmog]

111. I truly respect your views on this

I strongly agree with your position that the conservatives are not nice people and that we are not going to educate these idiots and change their minds. I understand not wanting to be around these people on a voluntary basis and needed to protect one's sanity.

I do not try to change the minds of the conservatives but enjoy poking holes in their claims and watching them get upset when they are confronted with facts. It is clear that the conservatives on that board are too stupid to educate but their reactions to having their claims proven wrong are really funny.

Please remember that you are missed and that I understand why you are not posting on discussionist. Have fun and check out the posts over there from time to time. Over the long term, I am still not sure if the Disccusionist board will be viable.

[ZombieHorde]

51. "Their view of Democrats/liberals is one-dimensional, unless .5-dimensional is possible."

We see this on DU often, except toward Republicans. Both parties have people who are hateful and violent. We claim to value tolerance, and many of do value tolerance, but many of us only pay lip service to tolerance.

[Prophet 451]

52. It's something about all open discussion sites

Anytime there's an open discussion area for politics, the RWers swarm like army ants. The liberals all quit because who needs that shit, then the incestuous amplification kicks in and the RWers get more and more extreme. It's not that there are more conservatives than liberals, it's that conservatives are more willing, eager even, to go to the absolute extreme. They'll lie through their teeth whenever it's convenient, smear and demonize anyone who is even slightly disagreeing and deploy DARVO at every opportunity, all while playing the victim. I first noticed this on the BBC News discussion boards and it's been true of every open discussion site I've ever seen.

[Scootaloo]

53. I gave up trying to engage the right years ago

I had a few posts on Disgustingus - Twilight Sporkle - but it was like trying to swim through a marshmallow. No thanks.

[Scuba]

56. It's a cesspool.

[KG]

58. if i wanted to 'debate' conservatives, i wouldn't even have to leave DU

[peace13]

82. There's that or...

I could talk to my mother, which I haven't done in a year!

[FSogol]

59. LOL, criticizing DI made someone mad

On Sat Nov 8, 2014, 07:32 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Some of the lowest and most horrible people on the planet post at Discussionist.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025784952

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This post is loaded with personal attacks. It is not a civil discussion of issues.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Nov 8, 2014, 07:48 AM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter: When did it become a personal attack to criticize the trolls, idiots, mouth-breathers, and Republicans (but I repeat myself) that infect Disccussionist? You like the toxic environment over there, then stay there feebly hitting alert, and stop the frivolous alerting here. Hope the admins revoke your alerting privileges.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Vinca]

61. The jury decision was as entertaining as the post.

[MFM008]

60. pond monkeys

[NaturalHigh]

62. I went there a few times but never signed up.

It's like a shooting gallery from the fringe of both sides of the political spectrum. Seems like a good place to get shot in the crossfire.

What I don't get is people who come here and post threads that "someone said something not nice about me on discussionist!" Then (A) Why go there? and (B) Why post about it here? Some people crave turmoil, and they apparently get a healthy dose of it over there.

[Shankapotomus]

64. You don't see that here?

You don't see people who disagree with you here childishly attacking you without ever engaging in discussion?

I don't think poor online forum skills is something that is determined by your politics. It's determined by your personality.

There are a lot of people here at DU who have a lot more in common with the kinds of people you described than they do with the democrats on this board.

[Starry Messenger]

67. It's the internet equivalent of fracking.

[greatauntoftriplets]

68. I only go there for laughs.

It provides them.

[Gothmog]

96. I find the conservatives on that board to be funny

[sabrina 1]

73. There certainly are that kind of people there. But I have also met people who are NOT

Fox News/Rush Limbaugh propaganda victims. I have been there from the beginning, and I can tell you this, some of the Conservatives are AFRAID to post their views on the forum and a few have emailed me privately to discuss issues where they think we CAN find common ground.

Maybe you haven't been there long enough to ignore the stereo-typical extremists and find the few who really do want to work towards a better country.

I generally ignore posts that look like they came straight from Fox, and hope to persuade some of those who have contacted me privately, to post their views on the board.

The way to drown the Faux indoctrinated is to post more of the facts which, I have found to my surprise, some Conservatives already know and are no more happy about the Faux/Limbaugh marginal loonies, than we are.

Best way not to have YOUR experience, is to ignore the fringe elements and look for opportunities to talk to the rational people. And yes, they ARE there.

[Rex]

79. I go there to argue with the trolls. I won't pretend otherwise.

Which is the reason I don't post there too much, it gets boring after a bit when they are floundering and sputtering.

[OregonBlue]

81. Seems to me that lots of the nasty trolls who used to be here are now there. Wasn't that the point?

To give them someplace to go to express their racism and hatred and leave the rest of us to talk about Democratic issues.

[LittleBlue]

85. I have a solution

Don't go there. Then you won't be exposed to the worst people on the planet.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

91. Thanks. That's helpful.

Any other wisdom you'd like to bestow?

[HughBeaumont]

97. I only lurk. I cannot engage with that bunch.

What you notice now, after a few months, is that the initial purpose of Discussionist has not only been tossed in the trash, but completely torched and rendered to cinders.

I think the creators envisioned a reasonable debate between DUers and Eisenhower conservatives.

They got Randians, Austrian School crackpots, circular-argument-tossing libertarians and troglodytes who crawled out of a sewer instead.

However, the people who I super-cannot-stand on that site aren't really the low-info troglodytes . . . you can easily step over those trolls like common dogshit.

No, the worst are the economically tin-eared Dunning-Krugertarians (like banned troll kctim) and the few Austrian-school loving anarcho-Trapitalists like Nixons_Ghost.

One perusal of their long-winded, logical fallacy-laced tripe makes you perform double takes. Even worse than that are those who subscribe to the idea that privatizing everything and abolishing government are the greatest thing that can happen to America, to the extent of getting rid of usury laws, making every road a toll road and having citizens handle law enforcement.

Further reading on these people reveals them to be subscribers to many facets of hyper-right wing extremism, like global warming denial, anti vaxx, goldbuggery and MRA. They even Gish-Gallop in their exchanges, essay-trading so many batshit statements at once that it just collapses into a futile exhaustion.

Discussionist is not only a house of the low-info, it's a house for cognitive dissonance at it's worst.

[Gothmog]

99. It is fun playing with the conservatives on that board

They are not very bright and can not make a coherent argument

[merrily]

101. Easy solution. Don't go to Discussionist.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

102. Thanks.

I wasn't looking for solutions, not with that crowd. I was just commenting on the low and base behavior of a lot of the posters there.

[merrily]

103. Not going to Discussionist is not a solution "with that crowd."

[DisgustipatedinCA]

104. OK

I'm missing the point, I guess. I'm not looking for solutions; I was commenting on what I observed. Have a nice weekend.

[cyberswede]

106. The place is a sewer. nt

[DonCoquixote]

108. My beef with that site is not

That they are mostly a bunch of disgusting pigs I would not want to get within smell distance of, it is that they make it a point to COME TO THIS SITE and then try to control it, using planning they have done there. Seriously, how many times have they bgragged about getting a hide on Seabeyond?