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whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:12 PM Nov 2014

"If you don't vote, you don't get to bitch!"

Sounds fair, but where it breaks down is the false implication that your issue or bitch would be fixed by voting. Maybe the statement should be revised to "If you don't vote, you don't get to bitch about what probably wasn't going to happen anyway!". Lol.

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"If you don't vote, you don't get to bitch!" (Original Post) whatchamacallit Nov 2014 OP
Alt message: Don't vote? Get out of our country! L0oniX Nov 2014 #1
Don't vote, stop complaining still_one Nov 2014 #2
I think George Carlin's reversed version makes more sense. GliderGuider Nov 2014 #3
"your issue or bitch would be fixed" is short-term thinking. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2014 #4
If you don't convince people to vote for you... bravenak Nov 2014 #5
 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
3. I think George Carlin's reversed version makes more sense.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:20 PM
Nov 2014

Aside from the fact that complaining is an inalienable human right, of course.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,839 posts)
4. "your issue or bitch would be fixed" is short-term thinking.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:23 PM
Nov 2014

If someone feels disenfranchised by most of the available candidates then at least show up, sign in, grab a ballot and vote for or against someone down-ballot or vote on a referendum or something-- then submit your undervote. Go on record showing your vote was right there in the polling place to be had if only they'd done something to earn it. But as long as the PTB thinks virtually nothing is going to pry your ass out of your chair then you're neither an asset nor a threat to them and no one's ever going to bother addressing your needs.
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
5. If you don't convince people to vote for you...
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:44 PM
Nov 2014

It's because you gave them no reason to vote for you.
Progressive policies won in my red state. Democrats did not.
The people, young people, walked around and got signatures to put measures put on the ballot that they wanted without much support from the national party. They won without the Democratic party. They figured out that it's more effective to do it yourself.
Some of our candidates did not support some of the measures that made it to the ballot.

Our minimum wage is now tied to inflation after 2016. It goes up a dollar a year until 2017 when it gets tied to inflation.

We got environmental protections that liberals have been working on for years.

We got marijuana legalized without any real support from the democratic party.

A bad anti union law was repealed.

Had our candidates fought for things like that instead of being wishy washy, people would know where they stand and young voters would cone out for them. But our candidates are scared of what republican voters will think.

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