I am not now or have ever been a member of the Third Way party

[DemocratSinceBirth]

I have voted a straight Democratic ticket since my first election I could vote in which was 1980. I have never voted for a Republicant in my entire life and am proud of it.

My primary votes were

1980 -Ted Kennedy
1984- Gary Hart
1988-Al Gore
1992- Bob Kerrey
1996 -No primary
2000- Al Gore
2004- Wes Clark
2008- Hillary Clinton*




That being said as a competitive person I am embarrassed that the Democrats have 174 out of 435 House seats, 46 or so out of 100 Senate seats, and 18 flipping governorships out of fifty. We need to grow the party and not worry about kicking people out. Those hugely embarrassing numbers bring me to tears. it's a joke!!!

* I should add my buddy and I volunteered to drive elderly presumably Obama voters to the polls in November.

[msanthrope]

1. Kick...I always wonder at those kicking people out of the tent. nt

[Number23]

20. Do you really, msanthrope?

Do you really?

[msanthrope]

28. Well...the wonder gets shorter and shorter...the paranoid shitshow

is still amusing, however.

[Rex]

2. DO you support a neo-liberal group that has infiltrated our party?

If yes then you support the Third Way, if no then you do not support the Third Way. It really is that simple.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. LIke LBJ said "I rather have them in the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in."

Some poster was using HST to chastise me. How many unreconstructed racists were his in his coalition? How many were in FDR's?


I am a Democrat because I stand in the corner of the little guy. The more people that stand behind me the better it is for me and him.

[Rex]

5. Okay then I take that as a yes, you will support libertarians in our party.

Thanks for answering.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Civil libertarians, hell yeah, but not libertarians qua libertarians.

All of us need to reach in our pockets to help our fellow citizens when they are in distress or need a leg up...

[Rex]

19. Good then you don't support political libertarians and also not neoliberlism.

But the Third Way is still neoliberalism.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. I don't support folks who want to eliminate the welfare state or alternatively the safety net.

I want to strengthen it.

[Rex]

23. That is what we all should want imo.

A stronger social safety net, a living wage, regulation and oversight, fairness and accuracy in reporting.

[hedda_foil]

7. Rex, neoliberalism and libertarian agendas are completely different.

COMPLETELY. We don't agree with either of them but that doesn't make them similar, much less the same thing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. I subscribe to the axiom that Joe Kennedy shared with his kids.

"The rich can take care of themselves. Someone has to look out for the little guy."

The more folks I can enlist in that effort the better...


The most conservative Democrat is still better than the generic Republican.


It reminds me of what Joe Louis said when he was asked how he could fight for a country that denies him equal rights. He said "it ain't nothing Hitler can fix."


Well, there aren't any problems in America, imho, that John Boehner and Mitch McConnell can fix.

[TheKentuckian]

29. You are talking about folks that are in league with the TeaPubliKlans to screw the little guy

According to your own rationale, your point is moot.

We haven't convinced to look out for the little guy at all, they have convinced us to look the other way as he gets pummeled and to look out for the rich because doing so in some convoluted allows us to supposedly look out for the little guy but the little guy keeps being in a worse spot as a consequence of the actions taken to look out for the rich.

[Rex]

18. No liberal and libertarian agendas are completely different.

Neoliberalism and libertarians are one and the same. Go look up the meaning of neoliberal.

Here

Neoliberalism is the resurgence of ideas associated with economic liberalism beginning in the 1970s and 1980s,[1][2] whose advocates support extensive economic liberalization, free trade, and reductions in government spending in order to enhance the role of the private sector in the economy. [\b]

[BlindTiresias]

3. You may be misunderstanding what is meant by Third Way...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. So? It's a political strategy not a party.

My primary votes:

1968 Eugene McCarthy
1972 Eugene McCarthy
1976 Jerry Brown
1980 Jerry Brown
1984 Jesse Jackson
1988 Michael Dukakis
1992 Jerry Brown
1996 No primary
2000 Bill Bradley
2004 Dennis Kucinich
2008 Dennis Kucinich

[TheKentuckian]

10. If you've got cancer, growing it is not a solution unless living is the problem.

The Turd Way is killing the party and the country.

[AgingAmerican]

11. We don't need to grow the party with Third Way Koch money

nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Are The Koch Bros donating to Dems? I thought they were Teabaggers./NT

[AgingAmerican]

13. The Third Way aren't Dems

They are Republicans. And they don't want to be included in the Democratic party, they want to control the actions of the Democratic party and make it more right wing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. Are we talking about the Kochs, the Third Way, or Republicans

I will give you a roundabout analogy.

Bill Clinton is criticized by some for taking conservative money for his Clinton Global Initiative. Well, if it means some kid In Kenya gets clean water I will take their money too...

[AgingAmerican]

15. If you defend the Third Way

or believe the Third Way has any place within the Democratic Party, then you are part of the problem.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. As I said ad infinitum and ad nauseum if someone joins (my) party they agree with me .

I don't agree with them.


We need more elected officials not less...


174 Reps, 46 Senators, 18 Governors is flipping laughable.


If the Democrats were a basketball team they would be the Washington Generals. If you don't know who they are you can google them.

[TheKentuckian]

30. Why on Earth would you believe that? You have not been joined but assimilated and yoked

to pull for the enemy.

A "D" next to your name is not a magic token of transformation, one can take it on with every intent of destroying all that it stands for in your sight.

[Ykcutnek]

17. 'Third Way' is to the far left as chemtrails is to the general nutjob. nt

[JI7]

21. in many cases they are the same

9-11 truthers also

[Rex]

25. LOL!

[mylye2222]

24. So if not a ThirdWayer...

Whats happened to you in 2008?
My congratulations for your previous votes. ..but why HRC, as she is OBVIOUSLY a ThirdWayer? Just asking , please dont take it as a personal attack.

[wyldwolf]

26. so is Al Gore, Bob Kerrey and Wes Clark

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. How would she have governed differently than Barack Obama?

Oh, and the 90s were the greatest decade of my life.

[TheKentuckian]

31. More wars, even more sucking up to the banks and big business, less concern for the commons,

for the environment, more disinterest in labor, more saber rattling, more fake drama with the TeaPubliKlans with more deep agreement on the structural fundamentals.