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babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:59 PM Nov 2014

Obama Drops The Reality Hammer On Republicans, “Nobody’s Stopping You From Passing Bills”

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Obama Drops The Reality Hammer On Republicans, “Nobody’s Stopping You From Passing Bills”
By: Jason Easley
Sunday, November, 9th, 2014, 12:37 pm


President Obama is turning up the heat on the incoming Republican congressional majority by bluntly telling that nobody is stopping them from passing bills on issues like immigration.

Video @ link~

When asked about immigration on Face The Nation, President Obama said,

The minute that they pass a bill that deals with the problems of immigration reform, I will sign it and it supersedes whatever actions I take, and I’m encouraging them to do so. On parallel track we’re going to be implementing an executive action, but if in fact a bill gets passed, nobody’s going to be happier than me to sign it. Because that means it will be permanent rather than temporary.

So,they have the ability, the authority, the control to supercede anything I do through my authority by carrying out their functions over there. And if in fact it’s true that they want to pass a bill, they’ve got good ideas, nobody’s stopping them, and the minute they do it, the minute I sign that bill, what I’ve done goes away.


Beginning in January, congressional Republicans won’t have Harry Reid to blame for their obstruction anymore. Boehner and McConnell are already blaming President Obama’s executive action for their refusal to pass an immigration bill, but the new political reality is that there is nothing stopping them for passing an immigration bill.

In fact, there will be nothing stopping from passing bills to do what the American people want. Voters overwhelming supporting raising the minimum wage, but McConnell and Boehner have already said that it won’t be happening. The same thing with infrastructure spending and other broadly popular ideas.

Immigration reform is just one example of the new world that Republicans will be entering into when they take the majority. The days of hiding their obstruction are over
. Their butts are on the line now, and they have a small window to either put up or face losing their new Senate majority in 2016.
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Obama Drops The Reality Hammer On Republicans, “Nobody’s Stopping You From Passing Bills” (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2014 OP
So, put up or shut up, Republicans! CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #1
I prefer STFU! :) - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #8
In a world where the M$M isn't all pro-GOP propaganda every which way they can muster, BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #2
In other words we need a slightly more polished Alan Grayson? Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #3
Hadn't thought about it, but yes! A slightly more polished Grayson is what it takes BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #5
That would be Sherrod Brown. jen63 Nov 2014 #10
That's the problem. M$M won't give more air time to a truth-teller like Senator Brown BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #12
I don't ever remember him being jen63 Nov 2014 #16
Sherrod Brown, as U.S. Rep., was far more fiery than Sherrod Brown as U.S. Senator. I saw the change BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #20
Sherrod Brown has good hair. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2014 #23
Indeed he does! BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #29
Oh, hey, I didn't know there was a limit! Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2014 #44
He's cute and he has charisma jen63 Nov 2014 #33
They're our only hope jen63 Nov 2014 #25
I don't know about that, but I know they can fire up the Millennials to get out and vote. BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #30
That is the problem isn't it? jen63 Nov 2014 #32
I would guess that any change in behavior is more due to electoral considerations mythology Nov 2014 #31
LOL! Hah! Howard Dean could do it, I think - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #9
They'll pass lots of bills. Mr.Bill Nov 2014 #4
and all of them will be veto'd el scorcho Nov 2014 #6
Exactly. The might've won in last week's elections, but they didn't get 2/3rd majorities BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #14
Will THIS message ever get heard... Hulk Nov 2014 #7
I think that was the strategy all along dickthegrouch Nov 2014 #11
You may be right. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #37
He needs to repeat this over and over kentuck Nov 2014 #13
Damn right IkeRepublican Nov 2014 #19
Yes because presidents should not be mcar Nov 2014 #26
If republicans were smart, they would pass some of the bills dems would have liked, bloomington-lib Nov 2014 #15
No. That means they would have to count the votes in their caucus.. kentuck Nov 2014 #17
See now, it's your opening dependent clause that is the real point. IF. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #40
There is an old expression that goes "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with world wide wally Nov 2014 #18
Never heard it. But I'd amend it to make the first clause alliterative, 'cause that's how I roll. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #41
I like it better too! world wide wally Nov 2014 #45
But there is something stopping them.. they have no idea what they are doing. Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #21
my prediction. they won't do shit. blame it on Obama. will be supported by a willing media. spanone Nov 2014 #22
I can't wait to watch them actually... ReRe Nov 2014 #24
Limpballs doesn't want them to govern. Historic NY Nov 2014 #27
Time to quit whining and try something unknown to them: Work! freshwest Nov 2014 #28
Great post!! Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #38
GOP: Guilty Old Party. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #42
I was hoping that Pres Obama would stand in their way, but I guess he cleared that up. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #34
Thanks, reading this thread felt like opposite day BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #35
If Obama says "nobody is stopping them" it must mean, including him. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #47
It is called, "calling their bluff." You should probably avoid playing poker. FSogol Nov 2014 #46
The Jobs Bill that Boehnor passed last year was great! Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #36
Bwahaha! LOVE that headline! Pick up the gauntlet, mofos! WinkyDink Nov 2014 #39
If Obama doesn't stop them, who will? B Calm Nov 2014 #43

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
2. In a world where the M$M isn't all pro-GOP propaganda every which way they can muster,
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 02:47 PM
Nov 2014

what the president said is absolutely true - Republicans have to either put up or shut up.

But in the United States where corporations prefer Republicans controlling government and where corporations OWN all news media, all McConnell and Boehner have to do is block any immigration reform, any bills to help your average American, and anything else that might strengthen our meager social safety net, and then turn around where M$M mics and cameras are on the ready and just say "The president and his Party are blocking all meaningful legislation!" and they'll get away with it, unquestioned, just as they've been getting away with it these past six years.

Unless and until the American people accept and understand that our Fourth Estate is dead and buried, and that they've been taken over by corporate propaganda outlets posing as news media, Republicans can continue, unchallenged, outright lying to the American people and these people will either not vote or vote for the very Party that's out to destroy their quality life in favor of millionaires and billionaires and more corporate power.

This is the sad reality of our country at this moment. In order to break through the well-funded propaganda machine, we need candidates who are charismatic, interesting, and have the ability to force the M$M to report on them in order to get the message out. Republican candidates have no such threshold, but it's one that Democrats are now forced to abide by. Disheartening but true.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
5. Hadn't thought about it, but yes! A slightly more polished Grayson is what it takes
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 03:34 PM
Nov 2014

for any Democrat to finally get decent coverage in our M$M.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
12. That's the problem. M$M won't give more air time to a truth-teller like Senator Brown
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 03:57 PM
Nov 2014

no matter how outrageous he is in order to get attention unless it's to embarrass this president or besmirch the Democratic Party in any which way because that harms their chances of getting an all-Republican, anti-American, anti-democratic government. And to be fair, Senator Sherrod Brown has calmed down considerably since coming to the Senate.

jen63

(813 posts)
16. I don't ever remember him being
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 04:04 PM
Nov 2014

that way. Just speaking truth to power. I think he's definitely more polished and likable than Grayson. We need to raise his national profile and visibility. He and Warren or Sanders would be a powerhouse ticket if he became more visible. It's sad that our media has come to this.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
20. Sherrod Brown, as U.S. Rep., was far more fiery than Sherrod Brown as U.S. Senator. I saw the change
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 04:22 PM
Nov 2014

almost immediately when he won his election as Senator. I guess they're told to "refine" their overall behavior the moment they enter the Senate - which is supposed to be "the deliberative body" of Congress.

I hope Sherrod Brown will run in the primaries. He, Warren, and Sanders are Democratic powerhouses (I know Bernie isn't a Dem, but he embraces the original Democratic platform), but M$M will tear them apart for every tiny mistake they might make while completely ignoring their message, all the while ignoring, even defending, the GOP candidates' foibles. That said, those three Senators can hold their own and give as good as they get.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
23. Sherrod Brown has good hair.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 04:49 PM
Nov 2014

And he's cute, as his wife said.

(Totally superficial and vacuous comment here from a female voter)

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
29. Indeed he does!
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 09:40 PM
Nov 2014

But I admire his brain under that great crop of hair the most.

By the way? On DU, we have an allowance of five vacuous comments a week so have at it!

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
44. Oh, hey, I didn't know there was a limit!
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 11:08 AM
Nov 2014

I swear, every day I feel like I'm a twelve-year-old girl with a crush on the Beatles. Except now the crushes are guys in their sixties. Maybe it means I'm still a teenager on the inside? Or the eyeballs still work?

Lewis Black has a routine where he was at a party in Hollywood and Paul McCartney winked at him from across the room. Lewis said, "And it was then that I knew I had the heart of a twelve-year-old girl."

jen63

(813 posts)
25. They're our only hope
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 05:08 PM
Nov 2014

for true liberalism. My only fear is that Brown isn't well known enough. If he would lose big he may be done for as a serious candidate. Sanders and Warren are more widely known. I don't have a problem with Sanders at all. If he runs it'll have to be on the Democratic ticket. He said as much. I guess I hope they all get in. It'll make for a much better outcome.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
30. I don't know about that, but I know they can fire up the Millennials to get out and vote.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 09:44 PM
Nov 2014

Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders would do that very well, and once people hear Sherrod Brown speak on the issues - and he puts that fire in his words - they'll LOVE him. Now...how do we get pro-GOP U.S. media to pay attention when they only want to report negatively about any and all Democrats? I really don't have a clue.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
31. I would guess that any change in behavior is more due to electoral considerations
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 10:05 PM
Nov 2014

A House district, especially in the current overly gerrymandered districts, has a much different electorate than a state as a whole.

His district has been a Democratic seat since the 1976 election. That's a pretty safe seat. Ohio as a state on the other hand is not so reliably a Democratic bastion.

Mr.Bill

(24,292 posts)
4. They'll pass lots of bills.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 03:19 PM
Nov 2014

And every single one of them will have a provision attached to it to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
14. Exactly. The might've won in last week's elections, but they didn't get 2/3rd majorities
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 03:58 PM
Nov 2014

meaning, they can't override President Obama's vetoes.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
7. Will THIS message ever get heard...
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 03:42 PM
Nov 2014

except on progressive/liberal web sites? THIS is the problem. Piss poor coverage of what this President is saying. fox-nonsense will broadcast a few of his speeches, but then morons like vannity, blondie, etc. interrupt his speech and talk right over him with their sarcasm and snide remarks. When they've had enough, or feel threatened with what he is trying to portray, they cut away and go into "smear-mode".

THIS is our problem. When he does address the nation with important messages, like this; nobody hears but we few on the web.

dickthegrouch

(3,174 posts)
11. I think that was the strategy all along
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 03:55 PM
Nov 2014

*WE* have now given them enough rope to hang themselves with in the next two years.

I am hoping that things will be so obviously worse that the Dems can come swooping back in with a huge majority to achieve what's actually needed in 2016.

The Good Old Pricks in the Republican party won't be able to demonstrate anything other than a worsening of everything.

HOWEVER, *WE* dems have to make sure that the electorate is FULLY aware of how good things are right now in terms of unemployment, health care, equal marriage rights, etc. It may be expensive, but it will be much more expensive to let the GOP win in 2016.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
37. You may be right.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:41 AM
Nov 2014

The Republicans are the ones who have been whining that they were the ones being obstructed for the last 6 years, so now that they have control of both Houses of Congress, let's see what they do with it.

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
But, give a 4-year old a lot of power, and he doesn't know what the fuck to do first!!

McConnell is screwed.
Immigration reform is going to be the big issue in the next 2 years, and if the Republicans don't do something that can get signed in to law by President Obama, they can kiss the 2016 elections good-bye.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
19. Damn right
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 04:17 PM
Nov 2014

Sick and tired of him hopping over to something else. He needs to stay home, go public as much as possible to cut through the Fox/Repuke TMZ and grill their fucking asses publicly - repeatedly.



"Get 'em on the ground, twist in the spikes and show them no mercy. Sudden death, gentlemen. That's how they (Democrats) play it and we will too." - Richard Nixon, 1967 (to campaign assistant Bob Haldeman)

Obama is FAR overdue to the do the same.

* Oliver Stone deliberately fucked up that quote, put it in 1971 and aimed it at the cabinet.

bloomington-lib

(946 posts)
15. If republicans were smart, they would pass some of the bills dems would have liked,
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 04:04 PM
Nov 2014

but take credit for it themselves. Pass an immigration bill along with strong infrastructure spending and I think they would have a decent chance in two years. Americans are all about the what are you doing now than what you have done in the past.

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
18. There is an old expression that goes "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 04:15 PM
Nov 2014

Bullshit.
This will be the Republican approach in the coming years just as it has been for the past few. They will pass outrageous bills that force the President to veto them. Then when they refuse to act on bills that are actually beneficial to people, and 2016 approaches, they will point to Obama and the Dems as the obstructionists. With the help of the M$M people will be thoroughly baffled once again.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
41. Never heard it. But I'd amend it to make the first clause alliterative, 'cause that's how I roll.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:52 AM
Nov 2014

"blind them with brilliance"

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
21. But there is something stopping them.. they have no idea what they are doing.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 04:23 PM
Nov 2014

Paralysis on all fronts except obstruction, criticism, ebola and war frenzy.

spanone

(135,832 posts)
22. my prediction. they won't do shit. blame it on Obama. will be supported by a willing media.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 04:24 PM
Nov 2014

so it goes.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
24. I can't wait to watch them actually...
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 04:52 PM
Nov 2014

... work! Question is, can the Legislature write something PO can in good conscience sign? PO is a speed reader, don't 'ya know? If there's a little pickle in the banana pudding, he'll find it.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
38. Great post!!
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:46 AM
Nov 2014

They think they are so clever by pointing at someone else and saying "he's to blame".

They got nothing!

They even got nothing more now than they did last year when they shut down the government!!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
34. I was hoping that Pres Obama would stand in their way, but I guess he cleared that up.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 01:15 AM
Nov 2014

"nobody is stopping them from passing bills on issues like immigration. " And the TPP, fracking, the Keystone pipeline, and on and on.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
35. Thanks, reading this thread felt like opposite day
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 03:37 AM
Nov 2014

Where is the mighty veto pen we've been hearing about all week? Because if one takes words at their meaning, then "nobody is stopping them" means just that. And the fairly clear statement that the bills they pass he will sign. And for that we are treated to a whole string of applause? Huh? Yeah pass those laws Republicans, we double dog dare you! Because bipartisanship I suppose.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
36. The Jobs Bill that Boehnor passed last year was great!
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:31 AM
Nov 2014

No, wait a minute, that wasn't a Jobs Bill that Boehnor passed, it was just a chili fart!

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