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Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 12:49 AM Nov 2014

Merle Haggard: ‘It’s Almost Criminal What They Do With Our President’



http://tasteofcountry.com/merle-haggard-president-obama/?trackback=tsmclip

After being honored at the White House for his lifetime achievements in the performing arts and outstanding contributions to American culture, Merle Haggard is forming an opinion about President Barack Obama based on character, not political agenda. The 73-year-old country legend, who has actually visited the White House as a guest of Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan in years past, made an appearance in Washington D.C. for the 33rd Annual Kennedy Center Honors. While there, he mingled with the President, the President’s wife and several other notable honorees.

“It was also nice to meet Obama and find him very different from the media makeout. It’s really almost criminal what they [the media] do with our President,” Haggard tells Rolling Stone. “There seems to be no shame or anything. They call him all kinds of names all day long, saying he’s doing certain things that he’s not. It’s just a big old political game that I don’t want to be part of. There are people spending their lives putting him down.”

“I’m sure some of it’s true and some of it’s not,” he continues. “I was very surprised to find the man very humble and he had a nice handshake. His wife was very cordial to the guests and especially me. They made a special effort to make me feel welcome. It was not at all the way the media described him to be.”

“He’s not conceited,” he adds. “He’s very humble about being the President of the United States, especially in comparison to some presidents we’ve had who come across like they don’t need anybody’s help. I think he knows he’s in over his head. Anybody with any sense who takes that job and thinks they can handle it must be an idiot.”


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Merle Haggard: ‘It’s Almost Criminal What They Do With Our President’ (Original Post) Voice for Peace Nov 2014 OP
“There seems to be no shame or anything. They call him all kinds of names LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #1
My hat's off to Merle. nt MrScorpio Nov 2014 #2
"Here's one for all the ex-convicts in the house..." Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #4
You wear your own kind of hat? villager Nov 2014 #28
Be nice to send Merle some DU love. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #41
"Are the Good Times Really Over" RandySF Nov 2014 #3
ooh Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #5
+1 villager Nov 2014 #29
Haggard's been paying attention. lpbk2713 Nov 2014 #6
This is Great, Voice for Peace! I love anyone who can tell the difference in the Reality of Cha Nov 2014 #7
Cool, an actual decent person shenmue Nov 2014 #8
Country Music star! Cha Nov 2014 #13
Back when country was country Zambero Nov 2014 #53
That makes me very proud to call him... MoonchildCA Nov 2014 #9
To my eternal chagrin shenmue Nov 2014 #15
Well that's one to be proud of... MoonchildCA Nov 2014 #24
At least it's only Rudy- dgibby Nov 2014 #56
Very cool... SoapBox Nov 2014 #10
Here: Dawson Leery Nov 2014 #11
+1,000 malaise Nov 2014 #31
Vince Gill retracted his defense of the Dixie Chicks, Dawson Leery Nov 2014 #40
Good for the Okie from Muscogee...quite a statement from him. madfloridian Nov 2014 #12
"Okie" is a satire tune azureblue Nov 2014 #61
What a kind thing for Merle to say meadowlark5 Nov 2014 #14
But we'd buy it.. sir pball Nov 2014 #22
It's OK Merle Old and In the Way Nov 2014 #16
Yes they did... Lochloosa Nov 2014 #32
Gram Parsons was also a devoted fan Zambero Nov 2014 #52
Great to hear that coming from a great artist! C Moon Nov 2014 #17
"Sing Me Back Home" Old and In the Way Nov 2014 #18
Not surprised at his words Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2014 #19
'Don't take no shit. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #51
K&R DeSwiss Nov 2014 #20
Thanks Voice for Peace SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2014 #21
I'll fix your flat tire, Merle. Man, the Okie from Muskogee has come a long way. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #23
What I hear in this disclosure of how the right wing thinks cilla4progress Nov 2014 #25
I think he was sincere in his appreciation loyalsister Nov 2014 #26
I heard that too. And that "in over his head" sort of made me wonder a bit. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2014 #33
I didn't get that vibe from the comments, especially when followed by... Pacifist Patriot Nov 2014 #35
That was my impression as well NewJeffCT Nov 2014 #47
That's why I said I didn't think it was intentional loyalsister Nov 2014 #55
I heard it that way as well. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #58
Maybe Merle didn't have the vocabulary he water, maybe he meant "gracious" The President is very kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #42
6 years of character assassination by the M$M, Merle is 100% correct. Rex Nov 2014 #27
Well Merle your fan base* has more to do with the attacking this President then any other group IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #30
he has had cancer. he's lucky to still be here. I love him roguevalley Nov 2014 #36
Well, I'm white, but I live in San Francisco and have seem him play here. deurbano Nov 2014 #63
As a white rural progressive who listens to Country, buzz off. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #70
Gee as a White Rural Progress I don't and in my rural experience only regressives like country IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #71
Never gave him enough credit...... a kennedy Nov 2014 #34
Coming from him is especially sweet! Merle 'ain't no dam librul' :) jillan Nov 2014 #37
So true. In one of his songs he ridicules Social Security. madfloridian Nov 2014 #43
Big City alarimer Nov 2014 #62
I downloaded this album of his from Emusic. madfloridian Nov 2014 #65
How kind of him to say these words. logosoco Nov 2014 #38
Damn straight it is! Initech Nov 2014 #39
WTF??? deaniac21 Nov 2014 #44
Really glad to hear him say that gmb92 Nov 2014 #45
Now that is a Merle Haggard I never knew. Stopped listening to him in those Nixon/Reagan years jwirr Nov 2014 #46
gotta wonder if he will get the "Dixie Chicks treatment" rurallib Nov 2014 #48
Unlikely IkeRepublican Nov 2014 #67
! rurallib Nov 2014 #72
I heard Merle do a set a couple of years back and he was pretty great stuff. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #49
BREAKING ON FOX NEWS: Merle Haggard says Obama 'thinks he is in over his head' Rstrstx Nov 2014 #50
Love that guy; he's the real thing! northoftheborder Nov 2014 #54
Glad to hear he MissB Nov 2014 #57
K&R. YoungDemCA Nov 2014 #59
Thank you for that Merle INdemo Nov 2014 #60
The last time I saw him, Joan Baez, John Prine & Kristofferson joined him onstage to sing "Okie from deurbano Nov 2014 #64
And this took place back in 2010 ReRe Nov 2014 #66
k&r... spanone Nov 2014 #68
I KNEW there was a reason I like his music so much! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #69
Not a country fan, but I've always liked a few singers Old Nick Nov 2014 #73
R.I.P. Merle, one of America's greatest musical artists... blitzen Feb 2019 #74

Cha

(297,154 posts)
7. This is Great, Voice for Peace! I love anyone who can tell the difference in the Reality of
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:12 AM
Nov 2014

President Obama and what the pundits and hack writers are spewing.

Thank you, Merle Haggard and VfPEACE!

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
53. Back when country was country
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 06:06 PM
Nov 2014

Instead of regurgitated pop-rock sung with a forced twang and the odd fiddle thrown in here and there.

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
9. That makes me very proud to call him...
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:20 AM
Nov 2014

my step-step-once-removed cousin, or uncle... or something along those lines...

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
12. Good for the Okie from Muscogee...quite a statement from him.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:31 AM
Nov 2014

The right wing HAS treated him with no respect at all.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
61. "Okie" is a satire tune
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 11:18 PM
Nov 2014

Merle said he wrote Okie as a satire in response to all the rah rah US that was going on back then in those Viet Nam War days.

The GOP is gonna have a fit when they read Merle's observation..

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
14. What a kind thing for Merle to say
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:36 AM
Nov 2014

Good thing he doesn't have a current CD to release because the baggers and Duck Dynasty crowd would boycott his music for saying nice things about the president.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
52. Gram Parsons was also a devoted fan
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 06:04 PM
Nov 2014

Going back to the early days of Merle Haggard's career. Parsons quit The Byrds in '68 rather than accompany them for a concert tour of South Africa.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
19. Not surprised at his words
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:51 AM
Nov 2014

This song was released during Bush II. Don't let the title fool you.

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Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
23. I'll fix your flat tire, Merle. Man, the Okie from Muskogee has come a long way.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 02:19 AM
Nov 2014

Here's Pure Prairie League's homage to the Hag:

cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
25. What I hear in this disclosure of how the right wing thinks
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 04:15 AM
Nov 2014

is that they believe Pres. Obama is "uppity."

While it is OK for Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney to be arrogant insulting bullies, that damn Black man in the White House better be 'umble!

As I suspected all along ...

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
26. I think he was sincere in his appreciation
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 04:25 AM
Nov 2014

I don't think it was his intention, but emphasizing that he is humble does kind of have a "they shouldn't worry so much, he knows his place" ring.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
35. I didn't get that vibe from the comments, especially when followed by...
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 12:07 PM
Nov 2014

"Anybody with any sense who takes that job and thinks they can handle it must be an idiot.”

I got the impression that Merle thinks humility is a virtue in a president because it demonstrates realism as opposed to the sanctimonious condescension he seems to have witnessed in previous presidents.

If anything, I saw a really well crafted insult lobbed at Obama's predecessors in those remarks.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
47. That was my impression as well
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 05:35 PM
Nov 2014

and, I'm not really a fan of Merle Haggard, or country music, in general.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
55. That's why I said I didn't think it was intentional
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 06:30 PM
Nov 2014

For many people an arrogant black man is very different from an arrogant white man. In fact when it comes to the presidency, it has historically been expected if not desirable of them until we had president Obama.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
42. Maybe Merle didn't have the vocabulary he water, maybe he meant "gracious" The President is very
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 04:34 PM
Nov 2014

gracious if not humble by some standards.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
27. 6 years of character assassination by the M$M, Merle is 100% correct.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 04:49 AM
Nov 2014

There are people making millions for putting him down all day long.

 
30. Well Merle your fan base* has more to do with the attacking this President then any other group
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 06:01 AM
Nov 2014

You got a big old microphone that most people do not have access to what you gonna do to fix it?

* It is well know that those that buy his style of music and are mainly white, conservative and live in red states.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
63. Well, I'm white, but I live in San Francisco and have seem him play here.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 11:42 PM
Nov 2014

Didn't see anyone who looked very conservative, though the white part was true. He has a broader "base" than just conservatives--lots of former hippies like me, for example.

 
71. Gee as a White Rural Progress I don't and in my rural experience only regressives like country
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 06:33 AM
Nov 2014

If he had to rely only on progressive and liberals for his fan base he would be pretty much unknown to the majority of America.

Not because he is not talented, but because most liberals and progressive don't listen to or like country.

However there are always outliers in anything.

a kennedy

(29,647 posts)
34. Never gave him enough credit......
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 09:06 AM
Nov 2014

love his voice, so smooth, effortless and one of a kind. Real nice to hear him say this about the POTUS.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
62. Big City
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 11:39 PM
Nov 2014

He is actually less conservative than you might think. He had a couple of songs there in the 2000's that were pretty critical of Bush. Being from the "outlaw" side of country music, it isn't really surprising.

He always said "Okie From Muskogee" was written from the point of view of his father's generation. He's admitted to toking a few himself!

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
65. I downloaded this album of his from Emusic.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:17 AM
Nov 2014

Been rerecorded in stereo.

http://www.emusic.com/album/merle-haggard/the-very-best-of-vol-1/10977332/

It's one of my favorite albums.

I sort of think of him like I do Patsy Cline, more of a blues or pop than pure country.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
38. How kind of him to say these words.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:27 PM
Nov 2014

I'm sure he knows that a lot of his fan base are the ones who are saying a lot of the crap, so it's nice to see him speaking out openly and honestly.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
39. Damn straight it is!
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:33 PM
Nov 2014

And the really sad thing is that republicans keep getting elected out of blind hatred for Obama.

gmb92

(57 posts)
45. Really glad to hear him say that
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 05:10 PM
Nov 2014

especially the part about the media trashing Obama. Republicans are delusional about the media, always claiming they're on his side or what not. For those paying attention, it's mostly 24/7 Obama-bashing. The reason why the right-wing myth propagates is that they repeatedly whine about the "liberal media". It's a constant talking point for them, and is repeated regardless of the complete picture.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
46. Now that is a Merle Haggard I never knew. Stopped listening to him in those Nixon/Reagan years
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 05:17 PM
Nov 2014

but this makes me want to reassess my attitude. Thank you Mr. Haggard.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
48. gotta wonder if he will get the "Dixie Chicks treatment"
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 05:44 PM
Nov 2014

now. This will no doubt raise some hackles where he's from.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
67. Unlikely
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:48 AM
Nov 2014

Merle, Johnny, Waylon and many others are completely ignored. The Repukes have moved onto something far more fitting for them - pander pop with a slide Fender.

Drinkin' burr, kickin' ace, gawd is great (allahu akbar) and choo tabakka.

Did I mention drinkin' burr? Crudweiser, of course. Those horses in the ads just make them tear up with pride about their beer flavored piss water.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
49. I heard Merle do a set a couple of years back and he was pretty great stuff.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 05:45 PM
Nov 2014

He's a more complex artist and individual than many people think.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
50. BREAKING ON FOX NEWS: Merle Haggard says Obama 'thinks he is in over his head'
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 05:51 PM
Nov 2014

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INdemo

(6,994 posts)
60. Thank you for that Merle
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:08 PM
Nov 2014

I think I have every major album of Merle's since 1967

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deurbano

(2,894 posts)
64. The last time I saw him, Joan Baez, John Prine & Kristofferson joined him onstage to sing "Okie from
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:15 AM
Nov 2014

Muskogee." (At the Mountain Winery in Saratoga.) Great evening!

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
66. And this took place back in 2010
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:35 AM
Nov 2014

Wonder what he thinks now (about the way his com-padres have treated PO since then?) Merle is a good man. Like Johnny Cash, he's a head above the rest, and my hat's off to him

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