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A Senate bill aimed at approving the Keystone XL pipeline stalled Tuesday, dealing a blow to Sen. Mary L. Landrieus tough re-election bid.
Republican leaders plan to bring the pipeline legislation back up next year, when GOP reinforcements appear certain to bring it over the line and to President Barack Obamas desk.
The 59-41 vote fell just one vote short of overcoming a filibuster led by Democrats.
In addition to Landrieu, Democrats who backed the pipeline included Sens. Mark Begich of Alaska, Michael Bennet of Colorado, Thomas R. Carper of Delaware, Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, Joe Donnelly of Indiana, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, Claire McCaskill of Missouri, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Jon Tester of Montana, John Walsh of Montana and Mark Warner of Virginia.
http://blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/keystone-xl-pipeline-stalls-in-senate-vote/?dcz=
YEAs ---59
Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Begich (D-AK)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Enzi (R-WY)
Fischer (R-NE)
Flake (R-AZ)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hagan (D-NC)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kirk (R-IL)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lee (R-UT)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Pryor (D-AR)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Scott (R-SC)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Tester (D-MT)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Walsh (D-MT)
Warner (D-VA)
Wicker (R-MS)
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=2&vote=00280
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)ebbie15644
(1,215 posts)femmocrat
(28,394 posts)He thinks it will "create jobs". I sent him an email expressing my disapproval.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/capitolinq/Casey-splits-with-Dems-supports-Keystone-XL.html
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)still_one
(92,217 posts)not pass Canada will still continue to extract the oil from the tar, in ways that hurt the environment, and will use other transport mechanisms to ship the oil.
If they have the pipeline, the companies do not have to pay any charges for the land it passes through, and it is not clear if there is an accident on the pipeline who is responsible for the damages.
Don't the states that the pipeline is going through have no issues with it?
livetohike
(22,145 posts)he would vote No. I won't make that mistake again .
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)The whole schtick about "jobs and energy independence" is totally bogus. And they should damn well know it.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)K and R
Ykcutnek
(1,305 posts)foo_bar
(4,193 posts)If I watched CNN and House of Cards correctly, this means leadership killed the bill, and 15 dems were let off the hook to bring home some red meat. I mean c'mon, Landrieu would be Warren if she lived in MA, and vice versa, so it's more of a branding exercise that targets specific demo-geographical niches. I mean I'll still choose Coke over Pepsi every time, for the superior advertisements alone, but I'm realistic about the extent to which Coca-Cola is personally invested in my dental health.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)No surprises.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)He's one of the few true Democrats left. He's make a GREAT president too...Just sayin!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)who will probably replace Landrieu in the Senate, enjoy.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)he's going to be any worse than Ms. Piggy. I don't see much difference between either of those two.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)2naSalit
(86,646 posts)environment any more than the toiletpaper crowd. She's an oil-shill and has made no effort to sing any other song so I can't imagine she was any better than the incoming shill will be behind her. At least the newbie will be honest about his contempt for all life on the planet.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)2naSalit
(86,646 posts)IMHO, I don't think she is either.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)many who fights for this one issue, Cassidy will never.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)champion of Civil Rights in Louisiana, this will suffer.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)the two DINOs from MT are on that list of miscreants.
If I thought I could win the popularity contest, I'd run for the Senate myself in my state.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I mostly recognized the votes to be out of states where mining or drilling are significant to the economy or history
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)a point. The problem being that what is mined here is not sustainable or environmentally friendly... coal and Baaken oil. We have lots of wind hre and sufficient sunshine, even in winter, to be a large player in renewables. We had subsidies for implementing such power sources but I think they went away in the past couple years.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Resources generally divide into fund and flow type.
Fund resources sit in large deposits which over time are consumed
Flow resources like sunlight, wind and rain typically aren't considered in terms of reservoirs but rather as amounts available over time. Historically such things weren't much thought about as sustainable. But water reservoirs that make constant production of hydroelectric can be depleted,
Living resources, such as fish stocks and forests represent a middle ground. They exist as large pools but with inputs and outputs. So long as the inputs equal or exceed the outputs, the pool is sustainable.
I don't know of many mines that are environmentally friendly. Typically mining involves digging into a deposit. Disturbing the earth that's in the way of collecting the target material makes various, sometimes toxic minerals and sediments available to movement by water which leads to migration of pollutants.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)the sensitive environmental material removed by mining and habitat for endagered or should be listed as endangered species... oh yeah, and clean water!!
Yeah, those things are more important than digging up pristine wild lands for profits for the few.
We need actually think more about what we need to do to change our way of destroying our habitat, along with that of all the other living beings in the biosphere, and I don't care if people have to change the way they do things. I've made that change and guess what, it didn't kill me.
I think most people, given a choice of doing something to make their lives better, including reviewing their values set, rather than offering only a position of complacency and fatalism.
There are choices but they need to be recognized and acted upon.
Most of the people in the mining towns re pretty miserable on many fronts. I have yet to see one in any portion of the country where life is good for those who live in or around them.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)PAProgressive28
(270 posts)oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)We can do better.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Just sayin.
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Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)More 5-state strategy.