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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:19 PM Nov 2014

Democrats who backed the pipeline

A Senate bill aimed at approving the Keystone XL pipeline stalled Tuesday, dealing a blow to Sen. Mary L. Landrieu’s tough re-election bid.

Republican leaders plan to bring the pipeline legislation back up next year, when GOP reinforcements appear certain to bring it over the line and to President Barack Obama’s desk.

The 59-41 vote fell just one vote short of overcoming a filibuster led by Democrats.

In addition to Landrieu, Democrats who backed the pipeline included Sens. Mark Begich of Alaska, Michael Bennet of Colorado, Thomas R. Carper of Delaware, Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, Joe Donnelly of Indiana, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, Claire McCaskill of Missouri, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Jon Tester of Montana, John Walsh of Montana and Mark Warner of Virginia.

http://blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/keystone-xl-pipeline-stalls-in-senate-vote/?dcz=

YEAs ---59
Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Begich (D-AK)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Enzi (R-WY)
Fischer (R-NE)
Flake (R-AZ)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hagan (D-NC)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kirk (R-IL)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lee (R-UT)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Pryor (D-AR)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Scott (R-SC)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Tester (D-MT)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Walsh (D-MT)
Warner (D-VA)
Wicker (R-MS)
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=2&vote=00280

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Democrats who backed the pipeline (Original Post) cal04 Nov 2014 OP
I am disappointed in Casey. femmocrat Nov 2014 #1
Same (nt) Tree-Hugger Nov 2014 #4
Didn't surprise me that he voted for it. ebbie15644 Nov 2014 #13
I know. He has supported it in the past. femmocrat Nov 2014 #16
That's awesome that you wrote him!! RiverLover Nov 2014 #31
it will for 2 years, then only 50 permanent jobs will be left. Unfortunately, even if the pipeline still_one Nov 2014 #33
Same here. I didn't call his office because I thought livetohike Nov 2014 #38
The Third Wayers are outed. Thanks for posting~ RiverLover Nov 2014 #2
Corporate whores, one and all. polichick Nov 2014 #3
Liars, one and all. scarletwoman Nov 2014 #8
Thanks for posting the list. bigwillq Nov 2014 #5
41 real Democrats in the Senate. Sigh. nt Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #6
that's not how the senate works foo_bar Nov 2014 #40
Those are the most conservative Dems in the Senate Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #7
Sherrod Brown(D-Oh) voted AGAINST the pipeline. RiverLover Nov 2014 #9
Well, you get your trophy, Cassidy sponsored the bill in the House, he is a radical RW TP republican Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #10
It's not like 2naSalit Nov 2014 #12
She has never been in the TP gang, Cassidy is joing his best friend Ted Cruz. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #17
She doesn't care about the 2naSalit Nov 2014 #20
Think he is concerned about Democrat issues? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #22
More to the point 2naSalit Nov 2014 #24
You missed, she has been a long time champion of Civil Rights and in Louisiana they don't have Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #25
What Civil Rights problems has she solved or improved on? ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #27
If you researched her her record and the record of her family in Louisiana and you would know. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #39
Links please RiverLover Nov 2014 #41
I don't have a link to my life history and knowledge. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #43
She wants the XL, so what exactly is the difference here? ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #14
Her replacement will be the sponsor of the bill which passed the House, she has been a Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #19
Just as I expected... 2naSalit Nov 2014 #11
But isn't mining also important in Montana? HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #15
It is to 2naSalit Nov 2014 #18
I don't know any mined resource that is sustainable or environmentally friendly HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #29
All of the above and 2naSalit Nov 2014 #30
And the oil-soaked corporate DINOs reveal themselves, standing stark naked before the platform! nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #21
Yep. Each and every one soaked in petro cash for their campaigns, it is thoroughly disgusting. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #32
Casey... PAProgressive28 Nov 2014 #23
Throw the bums out oldtime dfl_er Nov 2014 #26
You have an HRC avatar. bunnies Nov 2014 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2014 #28
Cool. Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #37
K&R for transparency. nt TBF Nov 2014 #34
ugh spanone Nov 2014 #36
Those D's stand for Dumbo's. (I deleted a better word...) Owl Nov 2014 #42
Well we won't have to worry about some of these Dems real soon IronLionZion Nov 2014 #44
Yep... Self Cleansing Reality WillyT Nov 2014 #45
Thank goodness (nt) bigwillq Nov 2014 #46

still_one

(92,217 posts)
33. it will for 2 years, then only 50 permanent jobs will be left. Unfortunately, even if the pipeline
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:18 PM
Nov 2014

not pass Canada will still continue to extract the oil from the tar, in ways that hurt the environment, and will use other transport mechanisms to ship the oil.

If they have the pipeline, the companies do not have to pay any charges for the land it passes through, and it is not clear if there is an accident on the pipeline who is responsible for the damages.

Don't the states that the pipeline is going through have no issues with it?

livetohike

(22,145 posts)
38. Same here. I didn't call his office because I thought
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:35 PM
Nov 2014

he would vote No. I won't make that mistake again .

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
8. Liars, one and all.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:26 PM
Nov 2014

The whole schtick about "jobs and energy independence" is totally bogus. And they should damn well know it.

foo_bar

(4,193 posts)
40. that's not how the senate works
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:52 PM
Nov 2014

If I watched CNN and House of Cards correctly, this means leadership killed the bill, and 15 dems were let off the hook to bring home some red meat. I mean c'mon, Landrieu would be Warren if she lived in MA, and vice versa, so it's more of a branding exercise that targets specific demo-geographical niches. I mean I'll still choose Coke over Pepsi every time, for the superior advertisements alone, but I'm realistic about the extent to which Coca-Cola is personally invested in my dental health.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
9. Sherrod Brown(D-Oh) voted AGAINST the pipeline.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:27 PM
Nov 2014

He's one of the few true Democrats left. He's make a GREAT president too...Just sayin!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. Well, you get your trophy, Cassidy sponsored the bill in the House, he is a radical RW TP republican
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:27 PM
Nov 2014

who will probably replace Landrieu in the Senate, enjoy.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
12. It's not like
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:35 PM
Nov 2014

he's going to be any worse than Ms. Piggy. I don't see much difference between either of those two.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
20. She doesn't care about the
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:45 PM
Nov 2014

environment any more than the toiletpaper crowd. She's an oil-shill and has made no effort to sing any other song so I can't imagine she was any better than the incoming shill will be behind her. At least the newbie will be honest about his contempt for all life on the planet.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
25. You missed, she has been a long time champion of Civil Rights and in Louisiana they don't have
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:55 PM
Nov 2014

many who fights for this one issue, Cassidy will never.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
19. Her replacement will be the sponsor of the bill which passed the House, she has been a
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:43 PM
Nov 2014

champion of Civil Rights in Louisiana, this will suffer.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
11. Just as I expected...
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:34 PM
Nov 2014

the two DINOs from MT are on that list of miscreants.

If I thought I could win the popularity contest, I'd run for the Senate myself in my state.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
15. But isn't mining also important in Montana?
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:39 PM
Nov 2014

I mostly recognized the votes to be out of states where mining or drilling are significant to the economy or history

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
18. It is to
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:43 PM
Nov 2014

a point. The problem being that what is mined here is not sustainable or environmentally friendly... coal and Baaken oil. We have lots of wind hre and sufficient sunshine, even in winter, to be a large player in renewables. We had subsidies for implementing such power sources but I think they went away in the past couple years.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
29. I don't know any mined resource that is sustainable or environmentally friendly
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:59 PM
Nov 2014

Resources generally divide into fund and flow type.

Fund resources sit in large deposits which over time are consumed

Flow resources like sunlight, wind and rain typically aren't considered in terms of reservoirs but rather as amounts available over time. Historically such things weren't much thought about as sustainable. But water reservoirs that make constant production of hydroelectric can be depleted,

Living resources, such as fish stocks and forests represent a middle ground. They exist as large pools but with inputs and outputs. So long as the inputs equal or exceed the outputs, the pool is sustainable.

I don't know of many mines that are environmentally friendly. Typically mining involves digging into a deposit. Disturbing the earth that's in the way of collecting the target material makes various, sometimes toxic minerals and sediments available to movement by water which leads to migration of pollutants.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
30. All of the above and
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:07 PM
Nov 2014

the sensitive environmental material removed by mining and habitat for endagered or should be listed as endangered species... oh yeah, and clean water!!

Yeah, those things are more important than digging up pristine wild lands for profits for the few.

We need actually think more about what we need to do to change our way of destroying our habitat, along with that of all the other living beings in the biosphere, and I don't care if people have to change the way they do things. I've made that change and guess what, it didn't kill me.

I think most people, given a choice of doing something to make their lives better, including reviewing their values set, rather than offering only a position of complacency and fatalism.

There are choices but they need to be recognized and acted upon.

Most of the people in the mining towns re pretty miserable on many fronts. I have yet to see one in any portion of the country where life is good for those who live in or around them.

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