VICTORY!!!

[Playinghardball]

[onecaliberal]

1. It will be a short lived victory

With 54 republicans and 14 dems, they've got a veto proof majority.

[Cha]

2. Not according to this..

brad plumer ✔ @bradplumer
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So in 2015, Republicans will have 54 senators plus today's 9 pro-Keystone Dems. Enough to overcome a filibuster, but not an Obama veto.
1:44 PM - 18 Nov 2014 47 Retweets 22 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/11/18/the-future-rewards-those-who-press-on/#comments

Hope it's true!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

3. Thanks for posting that. I was wondering if it will be veto proof.

Does this mean some of the 14 Dems stated up thread were tossed out and now belong in the 54 re pig column?

[Cha]

4. I have no idea, Hassin.. I'm going to keep looking for more info on this..

[onecaliberal]

5. 60 votes is enough to override the veto

[Silent3]

11. 67 are needed to override a veto -- a two-thirds majority. n/t

[Hassin Bin Sober]

12. Need two thirds - 67

[onecaliberal]

6. 5 of the 14 lost their seats on Nov 4

[customerserviceguy]

9. Wait until they tie Keystone into an essential spending bill

Will the President veto that, shutting down the government? Rethugs know they can outlast our side when government services are withdrawn.

All this did was postpone the time that the President has before he vetoes the next Keystone standalone legislation, and labor sees he was playing them and the environmentalists off on each other.

[Cha]

10. Oh, I call bullshite on your post. The President on Keystone..

snip//

In some of his strongest language yet, Obama pushed back against the Republican argument that the pipeline is a “massive jobs bill for the United States.”

“Understand what this project is: It is providing the ability of Canada to pump their oil, send it through our land, down to the Gulf, where it will be sold everywhere else. It doesn't have an impact on US gas prices,” he said, growing visibly frustrated.

“If my Republican friends really want to focus on what's good for the American people in terms of job creation and lower energy costs, we should be engaging in a conversation about what are we doing to produce even more homegrown energy? I'm happy to have that conversation,” he continued.

MOre..
http://abcnews.go.com/US/obama-doubles-immigration-keystone-pipeline/story?id=26905484

snip//

President Barack Obama said the Keystone XL Pipeline won't create as many jobs as supporters claim as the House prepares to vote today on a bill to approve the controversial project.

During his visit to Myanmar, Obama also said the pipeline won't lead to lower energy costs for Americans. At the same time, the White House stopped short of saying the president will veto the bill that Republicans are pushing.

MOre..
http://www.indianz.com/News/2014/015651.asp

[customerserviceguy]

16. The President's done a lot of talking

on things that he's either never accomplished, or changed his mind on.

He's never, ever dealt with a Congress where both houses were controlled by the opposition. Let's see what he says and does when that happens. We don't have too long to wait on it.

[Samantha]

7. I thought it took two-thirds to override a veto

and they won't have that.

Sam

[onecaliberal]

8. You're right just read.

It will take 67 voted to override.
Historically less than ten percent of all presidential vetoes have been overridden. History is on our side.

[C Moon]

14. You scared me! :)

[Droning Predator]

13. Only veto proof if Democrats don't turn chicken

Like they did this faoll before the election. How many ROCK SOLID anti Keystone votes are there?

[Kath1]

15. This is excellent news!

And I am confident that President Obama will veto the bill if it passes in the future.