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moriah

(8,311 posts)
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 03:47 PM Nov 2014

Reagan and Bush Acted Unilaterally on Immigration, Too—for the Same Reason That Obama Will

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120334/obama-immigration-order-legal-bush-and-reagans-were

On Tuesday, the Associated Press reported that two previous Republican presidents—Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush—had taken unilateral action to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation, and the political reaction was much less vitriolic than what Obama has faced as he prepares to make a similar move. Conservatives, notably The Atlantic's David Frum and National Review's Mark Krikorian, quickly pushed back. Frum argues that, while legal, Obama’s upcoming executive action would be an unprecedented violation of political norms. Krikorian goes further, calling it "Caesarism, pure and simple." But in the end, though they difference in their vehemence, both Krikorian and Frum’s analyses do more to reveal the flaws in the conservative position than prove the lawlessness of Obama’s upcoming action.

Krikorian and Frum’s main argument is that Reagan and Bush’s unilateral actions were simply fixes to the 1986 immigration law that granted green cards to three million undocumented immigrants. Reagan and Bush discovered that, due to an unintended consequence of that law, many spouses and kids of newly-legalized immigrants faced deportation, potentially tearing families apart. In response, Reagan and Bush implemented “cleanup measures,” as Krikorian terms them: In 1987, Reagan’s Immigration and Naturalization Service announced that kids of newly-legalized immigrants would not be deported; Bush extended those protections to spouses in 1991.

According to Krikorian and Frum, these actions reflected Congress’s intentions because the legislative branch codified Reagan and Bush’s executive action into law in 1992. “Reagan and Bush acted in conjunction with Congress and in furtherance of a congressional purpose,” Frum writes. “Nobody wanted to deport the still-illegal husband of a newly legalized wife. Reagan’s (relatively small) and Bush’s (rather larger) executive actions tidied up these anomalies.” In other words, it would be unfair if Reagan and Bush deported children and spouses of newly-legalized immigrants. In fact, Bush’s executive action was called the “family fairness” program.

In contrast, they argue, Obama’s executive action is not what Congress intended. “A new order would not further a congressional purpose,” Frum writes. “It is intended to overpower and overmaster a recalcitrant Congress.” Krikorian was even more emphatic: “Whatever their merits, the Reagan and Bush measures were modest attempts at faithfully executing legislation duly enacted by Congress. Obama’s planned amnesty decree is Caesarism, pure and simple.”


Goes on to explain why their argument is invalid.
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Reagan and Bush Acted Unilaterally on Immigration, Too—for the Same Reason That Obama Will (Original Post) moriah Nov 2014 OP
I ran across basically the same argument on Fox News site underpants Nov 2014 #1
At least this was a good debunk to have on hand for when they rant. moriah Nov 2014 #2

underpants

(182,829 posts)
1. I ran across basically the same argument on Fox News site
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:21 PM
Nov 2014

Via google. This is the standard play - someone comes up with their talking point and everyone has a column for that week.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
2. At least this was a good debunk to have on hand for when they rant.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 08:05 PM
Nov 2014

Which should be starting loudly tomorrow.

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