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progressoid

(49,991 posts)
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 03:50 PM Nov 2014

‘We ain’t taking no n*ggers here’: Kentucky fire chief refuses to help black family...

‘We ain’t taking no n*ggers here’: Kentucky fire chief refuses to help black family in traffic accident

A Kentucky fire chief is being criticized for racist comments after he refused to help a family of stranded motorists because they were black, and then suggested that an Asian-American television reporter did not understand English.

In a Bullitt County Sheriff’s deputy’s body camera recording obtained by WDRB, Southeast Bullitt County Fire Chief Julius Hatfield can be heard discussing a car accident on I-65 in September.

Hatfield first goes out of his way to provide assistance to Loren Dicken, who is white.

“You got a jack, ain’t you?” Hatfield asks the driver. “If you show me where them things is at, I’ll get my guys to start changing the tire for you.”

...


But Hatfield treats the family of four black motorists completely differently.

“Well, I’ve got a family of four from Cincinnati, I got to do something with,” the Bullitt County deputy tells Hatfield over the radio.

“We ain’t taking no n*ggers here,” Hatfield replies, laughing.

Instead of offering to help driver Chege Mwangi, the deputy recommends that he call the AAA motor club.


More: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/we-aint-taking-no-nggers-here-kentucky-fire-chief-refuses-to-help-black-family-in-traffic-accident/


Video at the WDRB or Rawstory links if you want to see him in all his glory.

He also doesn't seem to like Asian Americans. When interviewed by Valerie Chen, he says in video recorded at the public meeting by WDRB cameras. “Do you understand English darling?”

http://www.wdrb.com/story/27419237/newly-obtained-video-of-southeast-bullitt-fire-department-chief-raises-questions-of-racism



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‘We ain’t taking no n*ggers here’: Kentucky fire chief refuses to help black family... (Original Post) progressoid Nov 2014 OP
he's being 'criticized'???? his racist ass should be fired, immediately. spanone Nov 2014 #1
But...but...but...FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!11!!1 FourScore Nov 2014 #14
Freedom of speech isn't a factor here, GGJohn Nov 2014 #20
I'm being facetious. n/t FourScore Nov 2014 #26
My bad. GGJohn Nov 2014 #32
THIS ^^^^^^^^ calimary Nov 2014 #42
He likely doesn't have much more time on the planet... Oktober Nov 2014 #2
smoke enid602 Nov 2014 #28
I don't think Chief Hatfield is smoking nearly enough cigarettes. Paladin Nov 2014 #3
brilliant The Jungle 1 Nov 2014 #59
I'm tempted, believe me. (nt) Paladin Nov 2014 #67
Part of the reason and Conway and Grimes lost. Dawson Leery Nov 2014 #4
You not allowed to bring that up Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #7
yes, and criticism of racism being more overt and more present in the south La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2014 #9
The fact that Jack Conway (lost by 12 points) had high numbers Dawson Leery Nov 2014 #12
Sick fuck. GGJohn Nov 2014 #5
I don't see how this "raises questions." It seems to answer them. Atman Nov 2014 #6
Fired? By whom? Another racist who is just like him in local government? Ikonoklast Nov 2014 #93
I totally agree with you. Atman Nov 2014 #96
The point I am trying to make is that this guy hasn't operated in a vacuum. Ikonoklast Nov 2014 #98
Introduce this jackass to a McCoy. nt Lucky Luciano Nov 2014 #106
How dare you post this story!! muntrv Nov 2014 #8
What the hell? shenmue Nov 2014 #10
Sick sick sick LittleBlue Nov 2014 #11
I would guess that his white outfit with the pointy hat is XSm... Frustratedlady Nov 2014 #13
He's a Fire Chief, not a cop. GGJohn Nov 2014 #22
My bad! The gown/hat in his closet comment still stands, tho. eom Frustratedlady Nov 2014 #24
It can't be. Republicans keep saying there is no more racism in America stevenleser Nov 2014 #15
Sadly, getting fired is probably the worst that'll happen to this pig. WillowTree Nov 2014 #16
suck that cigarette olddots Nov 2014 #17
"show me where them things is at?" MindPilot Nov 2014 #18
oh lord, too much. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2014 #31
Right? And has the gall to ask the Asian reporter if she knows English. arcane1 Nov 2014 #34
You took the words right out of my mouth. RebelOne Nov 2014 #39
+1. Exactly, lunasun Nov 2014 #56
Ignorant, hateful ass he is. Little Star Nov 2014 #19
not too far from Louisville I see. alp227 Nov 2014 #21
Many of that sort refuse to come here because it is the land of the devil or something TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #62
McConnell will send him a letter of commendation. lpbk2713 Nov 2014 #23
Somehow I Think The Folks That Elect The Sherriff Won't Have An Issue With This ProfessorGAC Nov 2014 #25
He's not a cop, GGJohn Nov 2014 #33
How the hell did he know they were from Cincinnati? KamaAina Nov 2014 #27
he should be fired immediately noiretextatique Nov 2014 #29
LOL, too funny. I pretty sure he's one the towns biggest okieinpain Nov 2014 #30
Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! that cigarette DemoTex Nov 2014 #35
exact same thought went through my mind onethatcares Nov 2014 #41
Commander.... negoldie Nov 2014 #92
Yep, I knew that. DemoTex Nov 2014 #99
I think we need to wait for all the facts to KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #36
And I'm sure the county officials are doing that right now, GGJohn Nov 2014 #38
Grrrrr! Fooled me! :-) Logical Nov 2014 #57
You know King - I was gonna post that myself JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #102
Can he hear a "You're fired"? Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #37
Chief ain't too healthy, he should light up another one. Historic NY Nov 2014 #40
Tens of thousands of him in positions of power all across the country. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2014 #43
To be fair lobodons Nov 2014 #44
this is why candidates can't admit to voting for a black person JI7 Nov 2014 #45
Racism should be a felony, convicts banned from voting. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #46
No, it shouldn't. GGJohn Nov 2014 #48
Ahhh, not really. nt Logical Nov 2014 #58
Yeah, because we've got all these empty jail cells just waiting for fresh bodies. name not needed Nov 2014 #66
The ugly American. City Lights Nov 2014 #47
He speaks for all family value Christian right wing ideologues randr Nov 2014 #49
It was just a slip of the tongue Botany Nov 2014 #50
Too much chlorine in that gene pool CanonRay Nov 2014 #51
nO. nOT ENOUGH. concreteblue Nov 2014 #95
Fire him. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #52
K & R for exposure. nt SunSeeker Nov 2014 #53
The only racism in America Runningdawg Nov 2014 #54
This peckerwood is only a minor glimpse at how they are further South. TxVietVet Nov 2014 #55
+1 freshwest Nov 2014 #94
I wonder if he still dons the robe? Rex Nov 2014 #60
dirt bag The Jungle 1 Nov 2014 #61
Not his first controversy--Fraud James48 Nov 2014 #63
The POS is the America the PTB of the United Police States of America want. nt valerief Nov 2014 #64
He should lose his job right now. Quackers Nov 2014 #65
#HoodsOff... Iggo Nov 2014 #68
Dumbass punk Iamthetruth Nov 2014 #69
Replace him with a black woman. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #70
y'all don't get it do you? yourpicturehere Nov 2014 #71
You're right Stargazer09 Nov 2014 #80
I totally get it JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #103
You can only imagine the remarks he might make about the POTUS. Vinca Nov 2014 #72
And that's what he says in public - TBF Nov 2014 #73
Foks, this is what Sen. Mitch McConnell stands for. sammy750 Nov 2014 #74
I'm still waiting for TX, MO, OK, KS, AZ and the ENTIRE South to secede vkkv Nov 2014 #75
Delete your region-bashing, treacherous post now or I will alert. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #76
You know what I wrote is true. vkkv Nov 2014 #82
I will alert on any post that leaves Southern Dems out as if we don't matter. You got lucky because ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #84
You are wrong Stargazer09 Nov 2014 #86
I warned you. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #77
Despicable. cordelia Nov 2014 #79
What's more despicable is that many on DU would not come to our defense: ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #83
You got lucky because, apparently, DU no longer has an issue with region-bashing: ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #81
I'm a member of the ACLU, Sierra Club, Dem Party and vkkv Nov 2014 #87
Good for you (I mean that) and I do what I can, when I can, for various groups and leftward ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #89
And, you're still a region basher, which if you think about it isn't that much different cordelia Nov 2014 #90
No kidding. I am regretting renewing my membership to this site last week. cordelia Nov 2014 #88
Sorry that didn't work. progressoid Nov 2014 #100
I work with many people in the south who are extremely kind and we vkkv Nov 2014 #91
What about Iowa? progressoid Nov 2014 #101
Put him in a museum Matariki Nov 2014 #78
"was"? It is stupid NOW, and apparently will be for some time to come. AlinPA Nov 2014 #107
Yuck Stargazer09 Nov 2014 #85
The Bullitt County entry in Wikipedia has already been updated: LeftinOH Nov 2014 #97
I hesitate to respond to this post... kentuck Nov 2014 #104
Yeah, sorry it seems to have turned into that. progressoid Nov 2014 #105
You could find a bunch of his ilk here in PA. AlinPA Nov 2014 #108

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
20. Freedom of speech isn't a factor here,
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 04:27 PM
Nov 2014

he is derelict in his duties, probably in violation of the county's policies while on duty. He should be fired and shamed.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
3. I don't think Chief Hatfield is smoking nearly enough cigarettes.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 03:56 PM
Nov 2014

If I were a Bullitt County resident, I'd be dropping off a spare carton of smokes for the Chief, every week. And I'd encourage others to do likewise.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
59. brilliant
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:21 PM
Nov 2014

That is a brilliant idea. I love that kind of protest.
Maybe we could send some packs to the fire station.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
7. You not allowed to bring that up
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 03:59 PM
Nov 2014

We've been assured and reassured here on DU numerous times that the voting patterns in Kentucky are in no way related to race or ethnicity

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
12. The fact that Jack Conway (lost by 12 points) had high numbers
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 04:09 PM
Nov 2014

across the board on issue after issue against Rand Paul means nothing.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
5. Sick fuck.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 03:58 PM
Nov 2014

He looks old enough to be part of that "uppity n@@@@@s need to be kept in their place" generation.
His sorry ass needs to be fired and shamed.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
6. I don't see how this "raises questions." It seems to answer them.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 03:59 PM
Nov 2014

This is a racist asshole who needs to be fired immediately.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
93. Fired? By whom? Another racist who is just like him in local government?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 03:48 PM
Nov 2014

That asshat is most likeley just like every other person in a position of power in that community, don't think for one minute anyone there has a problem with him calling people n*****s at all.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
96. I totally agree with you.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 03:58 PM
Nov 2014

Okay, not TOTALLY, but certainly about the other racists in charge there. But that doesn't mean he shouldn't be fired! Let him keep his job just because the people who work for/with him are also racist dicks? That doesn't make a lot of sense. You can send a message in different ways. I guess it all depends upon which message you wish to send: This kind of racist shit is okay, or this kind of racist shit is intolerable. It doesn't seem to difficult to me.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
98. The point I am trying to make is that this guy hasn't operated in a vacuum.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 04:18 PM
Nov 2014

Who's going to be the obn=ne to do the firing?

I'll bet you the entirety of city government officialdom doesn't see anything wrong with what that jerk said, and is wondering what the big deal is all about.

"Why should we fire Chief Hatfield, he didn't do anything wrong, after all, we all call them n*****s, too."

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
10. What the hell?
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 04:05 PM
Nov 2014

Good Lord! Is being batshit crazy a requirement for this job?!

(P.S. I don't think so but dang.)

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
13. I would guess that his white outfit with the pointy hat is XSm...
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 04:10 PM
Nov 2014

...as is his mind.

He has no business in law enforcement.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
15. It can't be. Republicans keep saying there is no more racism in America
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 04:14 PM
Nov 2014


^^^^^^^ in case its necessary

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
16. Sadly, getting fired is probably the worst that'll happen to this pig.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 04:16 PM
Nov 2014

I could easily come up with alternate and I guarantee more appropriate consequences.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
17. suck that cigarette
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 04:17 PM
Nov 2014

You turd maggot .I would like to buy you a lifetime supply hoping it will be a very short lifetime .

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
18. "show me where them things is at?"
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 04:26 PM
Nov 2014

Not only racist, but illiterate too!

Learn English you ignorant cracker motherfucker.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
39. You took the words right out of my mouth.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:52 PM
Nov 2014

He definitely needs to learn English himself instead of saying an Asian reporter can't speak English.

alp227

(32,033 posts)
21. not too far from Louisville I see.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 04:36 PM
Nov 2014

What IS with this state? Is it any wonder Mitch McConnell was able to keep his senate seat for so long?

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
62. Many of that sort refuse to come here because it is the land of the devil or something
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:30 PM
Nov 2014

Maybe, maybe they will come for the state fair.

In addition to straight up racism there is also plain political insanity. When I was phone banking for Jack you would not believe the number of folks I spoke with who were not voting for Conway because he was "too liberal" but were definitely voting for Yarmuth who is like orders of magnitude more liberal than Jack and openly embraced health care reform.

Same shit this time, Grimes runs further right than Conway did and even more folks split the ticket voting for Yarmuth and McTurtle.

Hell, I bet their were a non trivial amount of people that voted Yarmuth and even for Obama that voted for Randroid or McTurtle.

There is a more than just significant racial issue but there is some other factor in play here as well, even in Louisville that is more than a little confused ideologically and/or confused about ideology. Though I cannot discount that John is the real McCoy and Jack and Grimes tried the Halfpublican strategy and got the stink of phony on them, especially Grimes as it got so bad that I was stuck reconvincing "1" types. Seeming fake is devastating for a Democrat.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
25. Somehow I Think The Folks That Elect The Sherriff Won't Have An Issue With This
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 04:46 PM
Nov 2014

If they did, rednecks like this guy wouldn't be deupties in the first place.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
27. How the hell did he know they were from Cincinnati?
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 04:55 PM
Nov 2014

Did they have Ohio plates and a Bengals bumper sticker?

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
29. he should be fired immediately
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:04 PM
Nov 2014

racist fuck does not get to decide who gets service just another day in post-racial ameriKKKa.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
30. LOL, too funny. I pretty sure he's one the towns biggest
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:19 PM
Nov 2014

employers too. but oh no, no one is judging president obama on his race. It just keeps coming.

DemoTex

(25,399 posts)
35. Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! that cigarette
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:35 PM
Nov 2014

Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! that cigarette.
Puff! Puff! Puff!
And if you smoke yourself to death,
Tell the Devil at hell's gate
That you hate to make him wait,
But you got to have another cigarette.

(apologies to Merle Travis and Tex Williams)


onethatcares

(16,172 posts)
41. exact same thought went through my mind
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:58 PM
Nov 2014

I can't picture him pulling a hose or even holding a line except for a garden hose.

fire the racist s.o.b.

negoldie

(198 posts)
92. Commander....
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 02:43 PM
Nov 2014

Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airman.
BTW It's "Puff, Puff, Puff 'til ya smoke yourself to death. Tell St Peter at the golden gate, you just hate to make him wait, ya just gotta have another cigarette." FIFY

DemoTex

(25,399 posts)
99. Yep, I knew that.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 04:21 PM
Nov 2014

But I changed it to put that SOB at Hell's Gate, not the golden gate (hence the apology).

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
36. I think we need to wait for all the facts to
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:38 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Wed Nov 19, 2014, 06:29 PM - Edit history (1)

come in, instead of rushing to judgment.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
38. And I'm sure the county officials are doing that right now,
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:47 PM
Nov 2014

but his words are on tape, there's no getting around that and I'm pretty sure they'll take the appropriate actions.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
102. You know King - I was gonna post that myself
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 04:42 PM
Nov 2014

I mean - how do we KNOW he's a racist?
Video?
Hear say?
How many eye witnesses

He wasn't wearing a klan suit when he said it or neo nazi gear - so he can't POSSIBLY be a racist. Or a bigot.




 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
44. To be fair
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 06:21 PM
Nov 2014

To be fair, he didn't asked the White gentleman for his license, title or proof of insurance. He didn't want to hassle him or get him in any trouble.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
45. this is why candidates can't admit to voting for a black person
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 06:24 PM
Nov 2014

grimes knows her state and i'm sure she hears this type of stuff all the time .

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
48. No, it shouldn't.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 06:37 PM
Nov 2014

it should be countered with speech and education. We don't want to start down that slippery slope, the next repub AG could re-define what racism is to benefit them.

randr

(12,412 posts)
49. He speaks for all family value Christian right wing ideologues
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 06:39 PM
Nov 2014

This is when I wish there were a hell.

Runningdawg

(4,520 posts)
54. The only racism in America
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 06:52 PM
Nov 2014

is reverse racism (or so my GOP acquaintances tell me). We'll get to hear all about it once this man is fired for being a white Christian. They will jump on this story like a dog on a bone.

TxVietVet

(1,905 posts)
55. This peckerwood is only a minor glimpse at how they are further South.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 06:58 PM
Nov 2014

As the conservanazis are consolidating their power, I believe it's only going to get worse. It's coming.
As long as you can convince assholes like him that people of color are less human than he is, this type of behavior will continue.

I'd send the old racist asshole a carton of smokes but they probably would have been pissed on first.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
61. dirt bag
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:29 PM
Nov 2014

That shriveled up old fart is most likely a volunteer fireman. Probably only directs traffic. If he can stand up for 10 minutes.

What is funny is that he is a slave. Slave to his racism and slave to nicotine. Small minded stupid man.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
65. He should lose his job right now.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:49 PM
Nov 2014

Unfortunately, with his age and mindset, there is no hope for him. He will die a racist.

yourpicturehere

(54 posts)
71. y'all don't get it do you?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:01 AM
Nov 2014

What, you ask?

That everyone in ANY state is not the same.

That you are helping with divide and conquer...walk right into that ReThug camp.

That if you pick on Louisville, I will fight you tooth and nail. I grew up in Louisville. It is one of the most tolerant and friendly cities that I have ever been to. I got into a 20-minute conversation with a guy because I complimented one of the items in his flea market booth. Down here in Jesusland, you WON'T get into a spontaneous conversation with anyone.

I used to live in Bullitt County, and everyone there is not the same. It IS close enough to Louisville for all shades of the political spectrum and that includes liberals and rednecks, LIKE MOST PLACES in this country, and this is my problem. You will find this racist bullshit anywhere. WDRB used to be the "dumb" station until they started doing REAL news like this. Be glad someone exposed it. How many places wouldn't?

That being said, I hope this family sues the pants off Bullitt County, I HATE racists and bigots, but goddammit, I am tired of hearing that everyone in KY is a racist, knuckle-dragging redneck with a Bible and a gun ( I have both, but use them judiciously, like for varmints.)

BTW, a lot of us are puzzled why The Turtle won again. Here in Jesusland there were actually quite few "Allison" signs, and not many "Team Mitch" (doesn't THAT make you want to puke?). We fuckin' tried, so stop BLAMING ME for this jerk getting elected again. I have been voting against Turtle for YEARS, and I have voted since I was 18.

One sure way to lose allies is to keep criticizing them, just ask an ex-friend of mine who found herself w/o my friendship because I got tired of being criticized for trying to help and THAT was a 20-year friendship.

Go ahead, keep telling yourselves that you are better than anyone in KY, hope it makes you feel better.

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
80. You're right
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 12:51 PM
Nov 2014

I think a lot of people were hoping the turtle would get kicked out of the senate, and there is still some residual anger directed at Kentucky for inflicting him on us again.

You are correct that bashing your home state is not right. I don't like the stereotypes, either.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
103. I totally get it
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 04:45 PM
Nov 2014

I live in NJ - we take a lot of shit because of Christie.

Notice my comments up thread had nothing to do with where this man lives.

Last I checked - NJ has one of the highest concentration of hate groups in American.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
72. You can only imagine the remarks he might make about the POTUS.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:04 AM
Nov 2014

His behind should be out the firehouse door immediately.

sammy750

(165 posts)
74. Foks, this is what Sen. Mitch McConnell stands for.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 12:32 PM
Nov 2014

He just doesn't allow it to be aired and made public. Why is he so against Pres. Obama. Because he is BLACK. McConnell has said from the day he was elected, he would take Obama down.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
75. I'm still waiting for TX, MO, OK, KS, AZ and the ENTIRE South to secede
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 12:34 PM
Nov 2014

so we Northerners can finally get going on that BORDER FENCE.

The North has enough sensible, leftist voters to rule over any WI, MT, NV, NE or UT Wingnuts.

The South better get it together, your politicians are destroying this country.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
82. You know what I wrote is true.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 12:52 PM
Nov 2014

What is not the truth, is just my opinion and view from here in Calif.

An intolerent southern Dem is against freedom of speech apparently...
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
84. I will alert on any post that leaves Southern Dems out as if we don't matter. You got lucky because
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 12:54 PM
Nov 2014

of DU's current right-wing slant.

You might not be so lucky next time.

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
86. You are wrong
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 12:58 PM
Nov 2014

Freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to be a jerk to those of us stuck in the parts of this country that are suffering through GOP domination.

Just as it doesn't give the guy in the OP the right to spew racist garbage without repercussions.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
83. What's more despicable is that many on DU would not come to our defense:
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 12:52 PM
Nov 2014

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81. You got lucky because, apparently, DU no longer has an issue with region-bashing:
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Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: There are plenty of good southern voters on DU who work their collective butts off trying to change things. Don't insult an entire region..
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
87. I'm a member of the ACLU, Sierra Club, Dem Party and
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 01:03 PM
Nov 2014

this year alone, I've given more a two-hundred dollars of my hard earned money directly to groups such as the Union Of Concerned Scientists, NRDC or to leftist politicians through Act Blue, which is my favorite way to donate.

I suggest you do the same.






 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
89. Good for you (I mean that) and I do what I can, when I can, for various groups and leftward
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 01:07 PM
Nov 2014

politicians. But I don't see what that has to do with you bashing the region I live in, saying that the soil beneath my feet that I fight hard for should be excluded from the United States of America.

You're new here. Until DU became more right-leaning centrist, region bashing was not acceptable, hence the warning and alert. Apparently that no longer applies here. But it's not going to stop me from warning and alerting when I see it. I won't lose all of them because there are still some people here who don't believe in excluding entire regions and abandoning the good Dems/Libs in that region.

cordelia

(2,174 posts)
90. And, you're still a region basher, which if you think about it isn't that much different
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 01:10 PM
Nov 2014

from that bigoted asshole in Kentucky.

Congrats on your contributions to worthy causes.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
91. I work with many people in the south who are extremely kind and we
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 01:43 PM
Nov 2014

get on great.

I'm lucky to work in a left-leaning industry and have good accounts in TX, KY, TN, MO, FL, UT, SD, NC, GA, LA, NE, AZ, VA and some other conservative regions and these people are very nice. Most people are nice most everywhere.

We can and do occasionally touch on politics - though in biz one shouldn't, but I do - and I find that the lefties in the South that I'm in contact with HAVE GIVEN UP!
They have absolutely tuned out, shut out politics from their minds because they feel they can't win. They'll tell me that they can't stand their Congressmen or gov's or mayors but they feel that there are just "too many idiots" in their state.

I bash the south only as a poltical region on the region's rep's voting history and the anti-freedom laws that they attempt to pass - nothing against the people themselves who reside there, but come on, you've got to try a bit harder, at least vote!

Change or secede, please!
You're killing us up here!


progressoid

(49,991 posts)
101. What about Iowa?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 04:42 PM
Nov 2014

We're kind of red now. Batshit crazy red.

In fact a lot of people north of the Mason Dixon just voted for Republicans.



LeftinOH

(5,354 posts)
97. The Bullitt County entry in Wikipedia has already been updated:
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 04:06 PM
Nov 2014

"Visitors [to Bullitt County] should realize though that the fire/rescue protection and public safety services appear to be discretionary based on the race of the individuals in need of said services".

...and it's probably just as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullitt_County,_Kentucky#Law_and_government



kentuck

(111,103 posts)
104. I hesitate to respond to this post...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 04:57 PM
Nov 2014

but I would not want to think that rational thinkers would think the whole state is like this?

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
105. Yeah, sorry it seems to have turned into that.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 05:21 PM
Nov 2014

FWIW, I was posting it because of the racism not the region. Rawstory's reference to Kentucky in the title does make it about the state as much as the actions of an idiot.

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