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applegrove

(118,677 posts)
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:23 PM Nov 2014

House Republicans just passed a bill forbidding scientists from advising the EPA on their own resear

House Republicans just passed a bill forbidding scientists from advising the EPA on their own research

by Lindsay Abrams at Salon

http://www.salon.com/2014/11/19/house_republicans_just_passed_a_bill_forbidding_scientists_from_advising_the_epa_on_their_own_research/

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H.R. 1422, which passed 229-191, would shake up the EPA’s Scientific Advisory Board, placing restrictions on those pesky scientists and creating room for experts with overt financial ties to the industries affected by EPA regulations.

The bill is being framed as a play for transparency: Rep. Michael Burgess, R-Texas, argued that the board’s current structure is problematic because it “excludes industry experts, but not officials for environmental advocacy groups.” The inclusion of industry experts, he said, would right this injustice.

But the White House, which threatened to veto the bill, said it would “negatively affect the appointment of experts and would weaken the scientific independence and integrity of the SAB.”

In what might be the most ridiculous aspect of the whole thing, the bill forbids scientific experts from participating in “advisory activities” that either directly or indirectly involve their own work. In case that wasn’t clear: experts would be forbidden from sharing their expertise in their own research — the bizarre assumption, apparently, being that having conducted peer-reviewed studies on a topic would constitute a conflict of interest. “In other words,” wrote Union of Concerned Scientists director Andrew A. Rosenberg in an editorial for RollCall, “academic scientists who know the most about a subject can’t weigh in, but experts paid by corporations who want to block regulations can.”


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House Republicans just passed a bill forbidding scientists from advising the EPA on their own resear (Original Post) applegrove Nov 2014 OP
Why do repugs hate science? louis-t Nov 2014 #1
What in blue hell? Ruby the Liberal Nov 2014 #2
Obama better make sure his veto pen is full of ink.... JeffHead Nov 2014 #3
Well, they've had plenty of time. They sure as hell weren't working at their jobs. Frustratedlady Nov 2014 #4
Repubs have a false equivalence thing going. Thor_MN Nov 2014 #5
It is more than that. Psychopaths often do a 180 degree tell where they project their applegrove Nov 2014 #6
H.R. 1422 alternate: the See No Evil bill. L0oniX Nov 2014 #7
they are going back to their old tactics of sneaking things into innocuous bills.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #8
I want to see our President's veto pen... C_U_L8R Nov 2014 #9
And let us hope sadoldgirl Nov 2014 #10

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
1. Why do repugs hate science?
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:26 PM
Nov 2014

Because anybody knows Ted Cruz and the CEO at Dow Chemical know more about science than any scientist.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
2. What in blue hell?
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:27 PM
Nov 2014

They are there to regulate you assholes, not partner on maximizing profits. That's the job of the banks.

JeffHead

(1,186 posts)
3. Obama better make sure his veto pen is full of ink....
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:33 PM
Nov 2014

if this is the kind of shit bills they are going to throw at him. Its gonna be a long 2 years.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
4. Well, they've had plenty of time. They sure as hell weren't working at their jobs.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:42 PM
Nov 2014

The good side of this is that the bills have got to give Obama a good chuckle. The Repugs are showing their lack of intelligence. Maybe now, the citizens will begin to see what we've been witnessing for quite a number of years.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
5. Repubs have a false equivalence thing going.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:43 PM
Nov 2014

Environmental Scientists are paid to study and protect the environment. Corporate hacks are paid to generate profits for the corporation. See how those two are exactly the same? They are both getting paid!!!

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
6. It is more than that. Psychopaths often do a 180 degree tell where they project their
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:49 PM
Nov 2014

feelings and actions on their victim. In this case it is the GOP who will do anything for money/power. Scientists are the first people to admit they don't have all the answers and come up with hypothesis which they test again and again. They discard much. They only keep what proves beyond a doubt to be true. The GOP, like psychopaths, always claim they have the perfect information as they roll along making up fiction to fit the desired outcome they want. The two do not belong in the same buildings let alone any political equivalency.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
8. they are going back to their old tactics of sneaking things into innocuous bills....
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 07:53 PM
Nov 2014

that make it harder to veto

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