LOL!!!: Appropriations panel: Defunding immigration order "IMPOSSIBLE"

[kpete]

Republicans were really all-in on this idea that they could defund the order without shutting down the government. And now they've got like a day to figure out their next super-sneaky maneuver to ensure that Obama can't slow deportations. Or they can just keep insisting they can do the thing that's "impossible." Denying reality is a favored Republican strategy, after all.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/20/1346184/-Oops-GOP-s-plan-for-shutting-down-Obama-s-immigration-action-is-impossible

It would be “impossible" to defund President Obama’s executive actions on immigration through a government spending bill, the House Appropriations Committee said Thursday.

In a statement released by House Appropriations Chairman Hal Rogers's (R-Ky.) office hours before Obama's scheduled national address, the committee said the primary agency responsible for implementing Obama's actions is funded entirely by user fees.

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“This agency is entirely self-funded through the fees it collects on various immigration applications," the committee said in the statement, which was provided to The New York Times. "Congress does not appropriate funds for any of its operations, including the issuance of immigration status or work permits, with the exception of the ‘E-Verify’ program. Therefore, the appropriations process cannot be used to “defund” the agency."


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“We cannot, literally cannot, defund that agency in an appropriations bill because we don’t appropriate that agency. That agency is entirely fee funded,” Hing said.


http://thehill.com/policy/finance/224837-appropriations-panel-defunding-immigration-order-impossible#.VG4Q5YEHoiY.twitter

[elleng]

1. HOISTING them guys

on their own petards!

[Ykcutnek]

2. LOLOLOLOL

[Ykcutnek]

3. Twitter reactions from hatriots...

[TrollBuster9090]

17. Watching these idiots freak out about not being able to 'defund' an agency that Congress doesn't pay

for is almost as much fun as watching them blather about "keeping government hands off of my Medicare."

[Volaris]

25. When President Obama said the following in his address tonight..

"..as American as Sasha or Maila.."

it was like I had a moment of being Psychic, and I swear my mind literally FELT the Haters' brain's twist into a hate-knot.

and I'm pretty sure, The President is doing this on purpose..like he's flat daring them to just go full-bore with their hateful, racist little selves and let it all out like they (rather correctly) KNOW they can't do. But ohhhhhhh, how they LONG for the "america" that would let them.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

32. I love it when Conservatives rail about their own party being "corrupt".

[Stallion]

4. So You're Telling Me We Haven't Been Wasting Money on Immigrants?

Applicant/immigrants have been funding all that "wasted money" themselves

[Spazito]

5. LOL, priceless...

their utter stupidity on display yet again.

[MoonRiver]

6. BWAHAHAHAHA!

Guess it's on to Plan B, that being shut down the government and go down in flames in 2016.

[NCjack]

7. I never liked the ideas of fees because they hit the poor very hard -- but I was wrong!

[kimbutgar]

8. They should fund the EPA with the fines they get from polluters

And if they don't pay the fines they lose the ability to do any government contracts until fines are paid.

I heard the Koch bros companies have government contracts.

[stopwastingmymoney]

23. I like that...nt

[Trekologer]

9. The GOP defunding spree is their way of avoiding policy decisions

"Defund" doesn't fix any problems, it simply punts on it. But it is an easy way for the GOP to make it seem that they are doing something without needing to make policy decisions that their base might not like.

[onecaliberal]

10. :

[lark]

11. You think this will matter one bit to the congresscritters!

Hell NO. They don't even recognize truth or reality, so will continue to push a shutdown for this purpose, knowing damn well it won't happen. They just want to prove that they have the power to fuck with everyone and will do it no matter what. they know their lackeys, the Kochs, will just bombard the airwaves with the brave congress blocking bad black president and the stupid sheeple will be proud. Of course, the people that are actually hurt by this may pay attention, but are the Repugs too stupid or venal to care?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

12. I can picture them wanting to fund thugs in full tactical gear raiding homes in search of,....

....oh wait,....



That was then,...this is now.

[TrollBuster9090]

18. Wow, I did my best to forget about that. But I guess we'll be seeing more of it.

Although, I wouldn't have minded if they'd done that to Marco Rubio, 40 years ago.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

20. Amazing how Republicans can flip-flop and get away with it.

[redruddyred]

26. oh yeah that dude really needs an assault weapon

[Spitfire of ATJ]

31. That is the single iconic photo of the Elian Gonzalez case under Clinton...

If you listened to Republicans at the time he was the magical Cuban boy who came over on the backs of dolphins as his mom drowned.

The Republicans were OUTRAGED that Janet Reno and Bill Clinton raided the place he was staying to send him back where he came from. (And to his father)

Back then they were pandering to the Cubans in Miami. Fast forward to today and they would applaud if the cops shot "Mexicans" on sight.

BTW: There are those on the Right who still pass around pictures of Elian all grown up in the Cuban military with a "If he had only been allowed to stay he wouldn't have gone in league with The Devil (AKA: Castro)" caption.

[redruddyred]

36. you've just dated me.

only a couple years apart elian and me.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

37. What's weird is how much everyone has blocked out the Bush Years....

It's like a lost decade. People forget the Clinton Era started over 20 years ago.

[redruddyred]

42. it was a lost decade tho.

did my best to pretend shrubya didn't exist. tho maybe it was this attitude which got him elected in the first place.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

43. If you watched the network news you would think he was popular because he was dumb.

[Chemisse]

33. Things were pretty crazy then, over this child.

Passions were very very high. So he probably did.

It sure was a relief when that little boy went home to live with his father.

[srican69]

13. I love that Obama is about shove his fist up conservatives ass

I will be cheering him on today

[sammy750]

14. Any defund by the GOP for anything will be a huge defeat for them.

They are quickly losing any possibility of winning in 2016. The need to get some brain power in the GOP and fire the radicals and extremists. Those groups do not get Presidential votes.

[TrollBuster9090]

15. NEXT: Watch The Shitheads Try To 'Defund' The USPS, Until Somebody Reminds Them That

the USPS is ALSO self funding.


With any luck, the next two years will resemble a rerun of a ROADRUNNER cartoon, with the GOP ordering lots of equipment to kill Obama from the ACME HERITAGE FOUNDATION.

[malaise]

16. The fuckers know nothing about the workings of government

[valerief]

21. So that's why they hate it! They don't understand it. It might as well be quantum physics to them.

[malaise]

22. All they know is what they can loot

they are destroying government

[Cha]

19. And, I'm sure the President knew this. thanks kpete

[JEB]

24. Defund congress you miserable pieces of excrement.

[Turbineguy]

27. They can still shut down the government.

If only to do the country harm.

[underpants]

28. Hilarious

[barbtries]

29. gee it almost sounds as if

they don't even know how the government they're supposed to be running works.

[JDPriestly]

41. They don't.

Because they could so easily pass a law that would replace Obama's executive order if they wanted to pass one that would get a few Democratic votes in the Senate.

But of course, then they would have to decide on an immigration policy.

This is the best example of Obama playing 12-dimensional chess with the Republicas.

His executive order just took the Republicans' queen, bishops, knights, castles and pawns all at once so to speak. They now have to protect their King with no supporting pieces. That is going to be very interesting.

Their two main contenders for the presidency in 2016, Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz are both supposed to steal a few Hispanic votes. This is getting interesting.

[B Calm]

30. It's basically self funded. .

[Chemisse]

34. The delightful irony in all this,

Is that it was anti-immigrant sentiment that made darned sure the government was not paying a single penny toward the processing of the immigrants.

Now it is back to bite them in the ass!

[freshwest]

35. BWAHAHA! Take a course in civics and government, you buncha maroons! The Idiocracy loses one...

[IronLionZion]

38. These assholes will probably try to shut it down anyway

just to spite the e-verify system which is there for employers to check if workers are legally authorized to work in the US.

They don't like the government, and enjoy shutting it down to spite all those lazy workers by stopping us from working. They act like Wiley Coyote.

[paleotn]

39. Now THAT'S funny!

what part of self funded and thus Congress can't simply turn off the money do these idiots not understand? And if they get that, do they think President Obama would actually sign legislation changing the funding process for said agency? And just for kicks, lets say they did defund CIS, don't they realize that adversely affects the light colored immigrants they seem to like or at least don't howl about? How fucking stupid can you get? ....wait.....don't answer that. I probably don't want to know.

[AngryAmish]

40. Why doesn't the House just impeach him and not appoint managers

I looked at the Senate rules and they can't hold a trial without managers.

They are too stupid to try this.