Pass a Bill or Shove it Up Your Ass.

[msanthrope]

I am loving this.

[msanthrope]

1. Kick. nt

[freshwest]

75. Rec #101! You have finally found the pulse at DU! And he sure called out the hypocrites!

Sheshe says House GOP heads are:



Hey, GOP House:

[msanthrope]

79. You Better Believe It. nt

[msanthrope]

2. I'm gonna kick it again. Kick it up someone's ass. nt

[calimary]

82. And I will follow you and kick it yet AGAIN!

SUCK IT, GOP!

,,/,

[malaise]

3. Yes

[msanthrope]

5. Right fuggin' now. nt

[tenderfoot]

4. What is this referring to?

?????

[msanthrope]

6. The President is speaking. Rise up. nt

[tenderfoot]

9. Sorry, I don't have the tv on.

Thank you.

[msanthrope]

10. Rise up, Jem. The President is passing. nt

[sheshe2]

19. A to Kill a Mockingbird reference~

Perfect, msanthrope

What does the title "To Kill a Mockingbird" mean?




The title comes from an old proverb that it's a sin to kill a mockingbird. In the novel, Atticus Finch (Gregory Peck) gives air rifles as Christmas presents to his daughter Scout (Mary Badham) and his son Jem (Phillip Alford), warning them that they should shoot only at tin-cans and finches but not at mockingbirds. Scout is puzzled by this remark and asks Miss Maudie Atkinson (Rosemary Murphy) about it. Miss Maudie says, "Mockingbirds don't do one thing but make music for us to enjoy. They don't eat up people's gardens, they don't nest in corncribs, they don't do one thing but sing their hearts out for us. That's why it's a sin to kill a mockingbird." The mockingbird is seen to be a harmless creature that does its best to please its hearers by singing but is defenseless against hunters. The wrongness of killing the bird is evident, and it becomes a metaphor for the wrongness of harming innocent and vulnerable people.

[msanthrope]

20. Atticus just saved 5 million people. Saved them from the shadows. nt

[sheshe2]

23. He did indeed~

You know, I can almost quote the movie/book verbatim.

A GOOD JOB TONIGHT AS ALWAYS~

[msanthrope]

26. It was the book that made me think differently. nt

[mimi85]

39. Me too! Along with my big hearted mom (miss you Mom)

I remember reading it eons ago and re-reading it. Still one of my all time fav books. And that's saying a lot! I'm the one that will read the cereal box or the newspaper. Have to read!

[joeglow3]

106. And cost millions their working class living

I am thankful my father retired as a union drywaller a couple years ago. I think back to what my family endured, financially, in the 1980's and 1990's when illegal immigrants flooded the drywall labor market. All but one company in town went non-union, wages were slashed in half in less than a decade and many of my father's friends literally lost their homes. What they mean when they say illegal immigrants work the jobs Americans won't is "they work the jobs that Americans were once proud to work but that pay dick since the labor market was flooded."

Since you love to read books and relate them back, I suggest you revisit The Grapes of Wrath to be reminded what happens when we let our corporate and political leaders manipulate us into flooding their labor markets for them.

[msanthrope]

108. What union job is now taken by someone who has already been here 5 years? nt

[joeglow3]

110. That question was asked in 1986.

Last edited Fri Nov 21, 2014, 01:44 PM - Edit history (1)

About the time wages shot down. However, the bigger questions are:

1. How does this prevent a repeat of history (just as today is a repeat of 1986)?
2. What does this do to help to citizens of Mexico?
3. How do we improve the economy of our neighbors so that we don't just have low skilled workers entering the US illegally, deflating the wages of working class citizens?

I agree that these are people and we need to support and help them. But, I would really like a progressive president to come up with a plan that helps these people, while also actually looking to fix the over-riding problem and show an ounce of regard for the working class citizens who get dicked over and over with this issue. It is odd how the government is once again aligned with the entities who stand to benefit the most from this action - corporations.

[msanthrope]

117. You got anything from this century? nt

[joeglow3]

118. You forgot your sarcasm tag.

No one is really obtuse enough to think we can only learn from or repeat history that is less than 15 years old.

[Darb]

112. I am afraid you misunderstand the job market.

It is the "illegal" part which allows unscrupulous employers take advantage of workers and drive down wages. This changes somewhat and makes it better for the average working Joe. It will be harder to pay slave wages for labor.

[joeglow3]

115. Assuming we address the problem going forward

Didn't happen in 1986 and I am skeptical about today going forward.

[irisblue]

22. Reverend Sykes

I love that movie

[ashling]

62. I believe Atticus said blue jays, not finches

I love finches

[sheshe2]

77. It was mockingbirds Ashling,

The characters name was Atticus Finch.

“Remember it’s a sin to kill a mockingbird.” That was the only time I ever heard Atticus say it was a sin to do something, and I asked Miss Maudie about it.
“Your father’s right,” she said. “Mockingbirds don’t do one thing but make music for us to enjoy . . . but sing their hearts out for us. That’s why it’s a sin to kill a mockingbird.”


These lines from Chapter 10 are the source of the novel’s title and introduce one of the key metaphors of the book: the idea of “mockingbirds” as good, innocent people who are destroyed by evil. Boo Radley, for instance, is like a mockingbird—just as mockingbirds do not harm people but only “sing their hearts out for us,” Boo does not harm anyone; instead, he leaves Jem and Scout presents, covers Scout with a blanket during the fire, and eventually saves the children from Bob Ewell. Despite the pureness of his heart, however, Boo has been damaged by an abusive father. The connection between songbirds and innocents is made explicitly several times in the book: in Chapter 25, Mr. Underwood likens Tom Robinson’s death to “the senseless slaughter of songbirds by hunters and children”; in Chapter 30, Scout tells Atticus that hurting Boo Radley would be “sort of like shootin’ a mockingbird.” The moral imperative to protect the vulnerable governs Atticus’s decision to take Tom’s case, just as it leads Jem to protect the roly-poly bug from Scout’s hand.

http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/mocking/quotes.html

[tavernier]

87. Anyone who passes too close to a mockingbirds nest

can attest that they are not always sweet and harmless. They can leave a nasty peck on the noggin!!

[ashling]

114. Thank you for the unsolicited literature lesson

Now, about my post.

I was trying to politely point to a mistake / typo in your post:

warning them that they should shoot only at tin-cans and finches but not at mockingbirds

Atticus said they could shoot tin cans and blue Jays. Though your use of Sparknotes does not mention this,

(tsk, tsk - sorry, my dad was an English teacher. In high school I would not be caught dead referring to Cliff's Notes)

The avian metaphor is extended here to reference the fact that while mockingbirds “sing their hearts out for us,” blue jays are known to take and eat eggs and nestlings of other birds, i.e. Boo's father, et al.

[ALBliberal]

69. the book To Kill a Mockingbird is one of my all time favorites

And I LOVE how the mockingbird is transformed in "The Hunger Games" trilogy as a Mockingjay... the idealism still there ... very genius on Suzanne Collins' (author) part.

[msanthrope]

7. The gaunlet has been tossed......according to Peter King (R). nt

[msanthrope]

8. Fuck you and your hair, Peter. nt

[GoCubsGo]

63. No, it wasn't.

It was smacked right across your ugly ass face, and those of your fellow GOPers.

[Cha]

66. ROFL Right F****** ON!

[arely staircase]

11. hell yeah nt

[msanthrope]

16. He ain't got shit to lose now. nt

[arely staircase]

41. I think we just entered the "kiss my ass" phase of his presidency

The exact form the coming Republican meltdown is difficult to predict. I just hope its timing is synchronized to cause themselves the most damage going in to 2016. He will push them over the edge at some point. Maybe now.

[shenmue]

46. He should just flip people off

and drink vodka through his next speech.

[LawDeeDah]

67. Now that was funny.

thanks.

[PNW_Dem]

71. Skip the angry black man phase

And go directly to the "kiss my ass" phase. Love it!

[msanthrope]

80. I think he should eat pie and figure out who to flip off. nt

[KingCharlemagne]

89. I'd love to hear him say, "F*ck you, motherf*ckers" just once before he

leaves office too

[world wide wally]

113. I just want to hear, "I don't care what color I am. You're still a bunch of assholes"

[azmom]

120. I think we should start a petition.

I think a lot of people would love to hear that. It would be so awesome.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

52. Can I have some of that? What a great phrase!

The "kiss my ass" phase of his presidency. Wouldn't that be entertaining?

[irisblue]

60. may I use that phrase arely?

unlike the previous occupant, Pres Obama is engaged. He is in the Kiss My Ass phase of his presidency...perfect.

[arely staircase]

61. knock yourself out

[cilla4progress]

73. I didn't get to see the speech

and I've got slow internet at home so will have to wait...

but am so happy to read these comments.

I suspected and hoped this Obama would come out in the last 2 years of his presidency. Seems I was right on.

I love to read others' seeing the same thing. And you're so smart about "nuttin' to lose." I think he honored his obligations to the national Democratic party through these last mid-terms by laying low and holding back. As you say, he's all paid up now and on his OWN time.

Kick some ass, President Obama. We're with you!

[TBF]

98. I like this phase much better. nt

[CaliforniaPeggy]

12. Exactly. A great GREAT speech. Fuck off, Republicans. n/t

[msanthrope]

13. Fuck 'em, raw. Fuck the Orange One. Fuck the Turtle. Fuck em. You know

what consequences elections have?????

22 Senators are up for them in 2016.

One for us.

We will pillage.

[cilla4progress]

74. No?!

Awesome!

[CountAllVotes]

111. Right on!!!

FUCK OFF PIGS!!!!!

May ya'll choke on your own vomit!

[Spazito]

14. Yep, you summarized it perfectly! n/t

[City Lights]

15. !

[underpants]

17. Belly laugh. Spot on.

[greatauntoftriplets]

18. The Orangeman and Turtleface must be shitting their pants now.

[msanthrope]

21. Gonna have to find another third rate lawyer to file a suitcase...nt

[greatauntoftriplets]

24. Glen Lerner?

[msanthrope]

25. Is Orly Taitz not available??? nt

[greatauntoftriplets]

27. Do you know, I forgot about her.

They could collaborate. Lerner has the most annoying commercials ever!

[msanthrope]

28. I wish I could forget about Orly. I bet the CA bar wishes they could forget the Orly. But we

will never forget Orly.

[greatauntoftriplets]

29. Well, she's definitely at their level.

[msanthrope]

38. Her disbarred law clerk wrote all her briefs...she apparently added the crazy sauce on top of his

legal theories.

[greatauntoftriplets]

40. Top quality all the way there!

Not someone I'd want representing me in court. Or to write a will.

[TBF]

104. They are such losers -

and I have a feeling 2016 is going to be a very bad year for them.

[3catwoman3]

30. When the President said, "I have just one thing...

...to say," my brain immediately filled in with "Fuck You!!!"

He must want to say that soooooooooooooo bad.

[msanthrope]

31. We all heard it. nt

[3catwoman3]

37. GMTA

Great Minds Think Alike!

[awoke_in_2003]

32. I would pay money...

to hear him say exactly those words

[rurallib]

33. why din't he wait for us to pass a bill?

why? why? why?

[msanthrope]

34. I am sure the Boner is crying his beer. nt

[rurallib]

35. Jameson's whiskey I believe

and a pack or two of Camels.
How does he live that lifestyle and stay alive?

[msanthrope]

36. Like Cheney, he's probably mostly metal by now. nt

[Dustlawyer]

42. Because only the good die young!

[shenmue]

44. Don't laugh, that's how I got through my 20s

[rurallib]

51. Boehner must still be trogging through his 20s

[shenmue]

43. It would be so awesome

if he actually said that.

[herding cats]

47. Actions speak louder than words in this case.

Not that I'm saying his words aren't perfect tonight.

[VanillaRhapsody]

45. they are pickled..

[msanthrope]

48. Well, he crossed the line...

[Stellar]

55. I forgot how much I used to love Bugs Bunny!

Thanks for sharing!

[Volaris]

78. And like Sam up there, they (the haters) cant NOT step over the damned line, can they?

Oh, the smarter ones KNOW what awaits them eventually, but they are nearly powerless against the RAGERAGE that just says "but he PUT ANOTHER LINE THERE DON'T YOU SEE? HOW CAN WE ALLOW THAT??????"

No WONDER John drinks. I would, too.

[joshcryer]

49. Evil corporate overlord just gave 5 million minimum wage jobs away.

[msanthrope]

50. You forgot to call him "Kenyan" or "Muslin." nt

[joshcryer]

53. I was going for the corporate sellout angle.

Since that's the go-to insult for Obama.

You see, corporations are eager to get 5 million new minimum wage slaves and there will be more immigrants now that anchor babies are a strategy.

[msanthrope]

54. Okay--then you you forgot to call him "crypto-fascist authoritarian." nt

[emulatorloo]

56. YeAh we'll be knee-deep in that bullshit tomorrow

As soon as the fake-progressive Rove trolls here get their marching orders

[joshcryer]

57. I'll be impressed if they pull it off.

They tend to STFU whenever there's a good, clear, red line. Last time was during the government shutdown. They kept their traps shut despite the economy losing millions every day.

[riqster]

116. What do you expect from a used car salesman?

[spanone]

58. k&r...

[Jefferson23]

59. Ha ha..highly recommend for the title alone.

[ReRe]

64. Kick it. Kick it good! (DEVO style)

[Cha]

65. I just got home.. looked at Home Page and I guess you guys are "loving it"!..

TheObamaDiary.com @TheObamaDiary
Follow
Carlos Zuniga kisses his wife, hunger-striker Lenka Zuniga, in front of WH after the President's immigration address
4:04 PM - 20 Nov 2014
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http://theobamadiary.com/2014/11/20/we-were-strangers-once-too/

Mahalo msanthrope~

[Hulk]

68. Not gonna happen....

That would appear as though this black man in the White House won. Not gonna happen. They will take this country into the irreversible sewer before they would give this President the satisfaction of accomplishing something
These fuckers are some vicious, sick fuckers. "It's the principle of the thing."
Fuck all of them, the treasonous scum bags.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

70. :)

Yes!

[Initech]

72. Who needs butter? I've got plenty!

[RKP5637]

76. In short fuck the republicans. I'm fed up with their endless bullshit and ineptness. Most

are absolute morons.

[msanthrope]

81. Yeah..recced and kicked my own thread. Unabashedly.

For all you lurking mofos.....here's a primer on how to defeat the President....


http://m.

[joshcryer]

83. If I could rec it twice I would.

Did you see this coming? Had I been aware that Presidents have been doing executive actions on immigration for decades I would've predicted this a mile away.

[msanthrope]

84. I await the Friday morning quarterbacking from the 101st Chairborne....

But yes.....one could have foreseen this..

[Warren DeMontague]

85. "pass a bill or shove it up your ass" is my FAVORITE episode of" Schoolhouse Rock"!

ETA: dammit, you beat me on that joke by 15 minutes.

[msanthrope]

92. Very informative.....

http://m.

[Cha]

86. Yeah, I got yur Lame Duck right here. lol

[msanthrope]

90. What I have to say rhymes with "duck.". nt

[Cha]

91. NFTG!

[Proud Liberal Dem]

88. Seems like a simple enough concept

But pissing, moaning, and threatening is so much more fun for them and their supporters.

[alarimer]

93. Any immigration bill the next Congress passes will need to be vetoed.

It will be punitive in the extreme. It won't provide any kind of consideration for people whose parents brought them here. Some yahoos in Congress are even suggesting doing away with birthright citizenship.

So their bill should be DOA.

[msanthrope]

94. These fuckers aren't going to show up to do shit. nt

[jeff47]

101. They won't pass one.

The teabaggers want a "throw all the darkies out of the country" bill.
The corporatists want a "keep the cheap labor here, but under our thumb" bill.

They're not going to be able to reconcile those.

[treestar]

95. Republicans start to cry when

the power of the Chief Executive is not theirs. When it is theirs, suddenly it's magical!

[msanthrope]

96. They want to impeach him. Of course...this requires effort, so

it's inherently self-limiting.

[TNNurse]

97. great phrase

[TBF]

107. I think they'd put in the effort

if they actually could impeach someone for being president while black, but they know they can't get away with that and it's all they have.

[msanthrope]

100. Library open today? nt

[VA_Jill]

102. My daughter said

he should "go all honey badger on 'em because he's got nothing to lose" and I believe that's exactly what he's doing! Go get 'em Barack!

[shenmue]

103. The Don and Mike Show, circa 2004:

"I want them to come out drunk and curse out each other's mothers."

I can't wait until the FCC amends the rules about swearing on air. Then the Presidential address will get really interesting!

[msanthrope]

105. From the documentary, Idiocracy....

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DS5wHRryA2aw&sa=U&ei=82JvVKH0FIH-gwTpn4DACw&ved=0CB0QtwIwBg&usg=AFQjCNHUH57frpJOFL7S8zAgjVQcAizFBw

[azmom]

109. I thought he said that.

"And to those Members of Congress who question my authority to make our immigration system work better, or question the wisdom of me acting where Congress has failed, I have one answer: Pass a bill or shove it up your ass.

Lol

Gracias, Presidente Obama

[calimary]

119. So am I, dammit!

The BEST response.

,,/, Sit on it and swivel!