What if Hillary decides not to run?

[Peacetrain]

Just sitting here.. wondering how many possible Democratic party candidates are going to come to the top if Hillary decides against running.. (Before anyone bites my head off.. this is Just a theoretical question)

Who will rise to the top .. I know a lot of people like E. Warren.. and I think she might actually take a stab at it if H. Clinton does not run..

Would V.P. Biden throw his hat in the ring? He really is well liked..

Maryland's O'Malley... I think he would definitely jump in..

I have heard Jim Webb.. may be thinking about it...

Anyone else with their ear to the ground on who might run?

[hrmjustin]

1. Sherod Brown and Christen Gillibrand might run.

If she doesn't run I think it is harder for us to keep the White House.

[Peacetrain]

11. Hmmm did not think of them.. good call

[hrmjustin]

12. I would be upset if Hillary did not run and if she doesn't I have no idea who I would support.

[Peacetrain]

14. I was absolutely conviced she would not run.. till Chelsea

left the news and went to work for the Clinton Foundation..Now I am not so sure.. She has had a great presence in Iowa with her supporters getting out and talking to people.. I oped this morning.. (with little response I might add .. that anyone who is interested in a particular candidate needs to get out and do what the Hillary people have done.. make themselves known.. that is why she is at the top of the game.. Her supporters are out there already making the rounds.. its pretty impressive

[hrmjustin]

18. Yez! She has a better early field operation than the last time.

She realizes that she could lose.

[Peacetrain]

24. to be honest, neither Clintons has done very well in Iowa

But her supporters are not sitting back, they are talking to people..

[hrmjustin]

25. She has to do better in caucus states.

I prefer primaries because they are more fair.

[krawhitham]

47. Bernie Sanders will clean up the caucus states

[hrmjustin]

48. He might.

[arcane1]

19. You're in luck: none of us do since nobody has declared yet.

[hrmjustin]

22. Should be an interesting primary.

[arcane1]

23. Indeed. I'm kind of dreading it.

[brooklynite]

43. No, he won't

I know the family. I asked.

[hrmjustin]

44. I guessed so. i think he would be a great vp candidate.

[krawhitham]

45. domestic violence history will stop Sherrod Brown

[hrmjustin]

46. Oh no!

I never heard of this.

[krawhitham]

49. 1st wife said in divorce papers he hit and tormented her

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2012/06/josh_mandel_joins_the_domestic.html

She also got a restraining order to keep him from harassing or annoying her and from "doing bodily harm." In a supporting affidavit, she said she was "in fear for the safety and well-being of myself and our children due to (Brown's) physical violence and abusive nature."

She concluded by saying that "I am definitely afraid of my husband, that he has struck and bullied me on several different occasions, he has completely destroyed my peace of mind and that I am extremely intimidated by him."

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2012/06/josh_mandel_joins_the_domestic.html

[hrmjustin]

50. thanks fof the info!

Sad stuff!

[2banon]

71. wow.. jeeze..

just took down a number of notches for me. I always liked his public comments on policy.

[TheNutcracker]

58. You forgot Bernie Sanders!!!

[Katashi_itto]

2. Celebrate.

[Aerows]

9. I'll celebrate right along with you

She was inevitable for 2008, and we see how that worked out, don't we?

[bigwillq]

30. Right there with you!

[peacebird]

55. Me too!

[tularetom]

3. You might be surprised at how many Dems have been intimidated by the "Hillary is Inevitable" bullshit

Which was the clinton game plan to begin with. Inundate the media with stories of her inevitability and scare off any potential challengers to the crown.

She doesn't look so hot against most other Democrats and if a challenger comes on strong I could easily see her dropping out.

[Peacetrain]

7. No one is inevitable.. that is true..

[HereSince1628]

68. Hillary is a perennial, undeniable, candidate... she's a candidate even when she's not

She has not filed...there is already the READY for Hillary movement.

Should she not file at all you can bet that movement will continue pushing a Ready to DRAFT Hillary.

Whatever happened to liberals opposing the draft?

Ohhhhh.... not T.H.A.T. draft!

[Thinkingabout]

4. Joe Manchin would be a strong president, has background as governor and niw serves as Senator.

We have several we could get up and going, the DNC is in good position foe several years to come, some young people are entering the spotlight, we have the Castro brothers, fine future

[Peacetrain]

5. The Castro Brothers.. yep they are part of our future

for sure..

[brooklynite]

65. Need a stronger base. Mayor/Congressman not generally a good launching point.

[madinmaryland]

16. Yes he would be... As a moderate republican.

[krawhitham]

51. FUCK Joe Manchin

He voted for the XL Pipeline and spoke against Obama's executive action on immigration.

[Zorra]

56. I've voted only Democratic party for over 40 yrs, and I will not vote for him. nt

[Thinkingabout]

60. When you say "will not" vote for him, should he be the nominee would you either not vote or vote

for another candidate?

[NYC_SKP]

6. I would then change my mind about leaving this country.

I'm sick of Bushes and I'm sick of Clintons.

I'm sick of the media and the political system that elevate "candidates" before they even declare.

And I'm sick of living in a country where celebrity trumps values and where people are suckers.

[bigwillq]

8. Good post.

[Peacetrain]

10. It costs so much money any more to run for office

it seems we get "royal" families almost.. just because they have the connections to the money and know how the ins and out of the process work.. Some times it does feel a little Kardashian .. I hear you

[edgineered]

40. Interestingly enough there are 4 declared D candidates,

that is if this link is/was correct. It looks the same as it did last weekend:

http://2016.democratic-candidates.org/

your '...where celebrity trumps values' statement was a reminder of it.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. I'm hoping for Bernie , Jerry Brown, or Robert Reich.

[Peacetrain]

15. Robert Reich would be an interesting pick.. that is for sure.

I think he would really shake things up..

[madinmaryland]

17. Besides Martin O'Malley, I would love to see Al Franken throw his hat into the race.

And then O'Reilly's head explode. Would he ever be able to say President Franken!!

[Peacetrain]

20. Can you imagine.. President Franken..yep

it would be CPR for O'Reilly I met O'Malley this summer when he was out here in Iowa campaign for Hatch .. and was very impressed.. I mean I live on the western border and it is as red as blood here.. but O'Malley came out to the western side of the state anyway.. and that means something.. he did not ditch coming into red red territory..

[Spirochete]

54. I want to see Ben Stein

become a democrat, and become Franken's running mate.

Franken/Stein 2016

[brooklynite]

66. And why would you like someone as religiously intolerant and stupid as Stein?

[Spirochete]

69. Just because the name fits

once he was vice president, we'd never have to hear from the asshole again.

[Droning Predator]

21. Five minutes after HRC's announcement that she's not running.....

[Le Taz Hot]

26. There is no way she is NOT going to run.

But if, by some miracle, she grows a conscience and stays out of the race, the DNC will have a deep well of Wall-Street-friendly puppets to do their bidding. Joe Biden comes to mind but there are many many others.

[Peacetrain]

29. Oh I like Joe Biden..

I have a real comfort level with him.. the money thing I know is really depressing.. I absolutely agree with anyone about that.. its reached a point that no one can get elected with just the contributions of supporters..they have to take corporate money somewhere.. it is so out of control.. maybe if we had a three month election cycle that would cut it down..

[still_one]

27. What if the pope isn't Catholic?

[Peacetrain]

32. Yeah I think she probably will..

Her supporters are very active.. that is the reason I put the post up.. because no one else is really talking to anyone..

[still_one]

41. I know, I was just being a wise ass. Thanks for taking it in the lightness it was intended

[Peacetrain]

70. I understood

[VanillaRhapsody]

28. Joe Biden is the ONLY other candidate with more than single digits besides Hillary Clinton

[Peacetrain]

33. That is true.. if other candidates are going to

come forward.. people need to start stepping it up..I think maybe they are all waiting for her announcement before they take any action.. that is always a possibility

[VanillaRhapsody]

35. I wouldn't mind Joe Biden either....but I am ready for a woman....

I want to know what it feels like to be able to put MY bags down....as Oprah Winfrey said about the day Pres. Obama was elected.

[Peacetrain]

36. I hear that

I am a woman.. I am getting older, and before my days are done, I would love to see the first woman President.. that would be something.. My Grandmothers could not vote when they came of age.. to see the first woman President, it would be breathtaking..

[VanillaRhapsody]

37. I want to feel what African Americans felt like that day....what a wonderful day that was indeed!

[Peacetrain]

38. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Scootaloo]

31. I'm almost certain Bidin will be running.

Either that or he'll retire from politics to race muscle cars and open tiki bars.

[Peacetrain]

34. Now that was good

[MoonRiver]

39. Unless she dies or becomes disabled, that's not going to happen. eom

[LawDeeDah]

42. I'd prefer she run and lose the primary, second choice would be for her to not run.

I want to hear her inarticulate and shifty words again and I want another someone to show that for what it is.

[Nye Bevan]

52. The race for Democratic candidates to declare would be like when Disneyland opens up

in the morning, on a busy day.

[MADem]

53. Rumor control has it that Biden doesn't want to stand in the way of history, but

if his path is clear he'd be in.

Rumor also has it that if history goes the way he thinks it's past due, that he'd love to be SECSTATE. No idea if these rumors are all that accurate or if they're still salient. I heard that a good year ago.

[MannyGoldstein]

57. Then I get a huge bonus from Karl Rove.

Be still, my heart...

[davidpdx]

59. What do you mean she won't run?

DU has already declared it will happen, that she will win the primary, and the presidency.

I mean we are talking about Hillary Clinton.

Why can't you leave poor Hillary alone?























Oh by the way......

[ileus]

61. We'll have a different candidate.

[hobbit709]

62. Then a bunch of Hillaryphiles here will go into deep depression.

[TheKentuckian]

63. Then we will hear about how fantastically progressive and inevitable Andrew Cuomo is, I reckon.

[brooklynite]

64. Despite efforts to the contrary...

Cuomo one by a marginal amount and had no coat-tails. Not a lot to campaign on.

[joshcryer]

67. Good question.

I give it a 50/50 chance she runs or not.

On one hand, she has a family she needs to support, and is wealthy beyond reason.

On the other hand she has spent her entire life in politics and doing civic duties.

Probably Gillibrand would run, immediately. Warren would soon follow. Warren would have a huge base but wouldn't be able to appeal to a broader subset necessary for a woman to win the election.