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A St. Louis County grand jury on Monday decided not to indict Ferguson, Missouri, police Officer Darren Wilson in the August killing of teenager Michael Brown. The decision wasnt a surprise leaks from the grand jury had led most observers to conclude an indictment was unlikely but it was unusual. Grand juries nearly always decide to indict.
Or at least, they nearly always do so in cases that dont involve police officers.
Former New York state Chief Judge Sol Wachtler famously remarked that a prosecutor could persuade a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. The data suggests he was barely exaggerating: According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. attorneys prosecuted 162,000 federal cases in 2010, the most recent year for which we have data. Grand juries declined to return an indictment in 11 of them.
Wilsons case was heard in state court, not federal, so the numbers arent directly comparable. Unlike in federal court, most states, including Missouri, allow prosecutors to bring charges via a preliminary hearing in front of a judge instead of through a grand jury indictment. That means many routine cases never go before a grand jury. Still, legal experts agree that, at any level, it is extremely rare for prosecutors to fail to win an indictment.
If the prosecutor wants an indictment and doesnt get one, something has gone horribly wrong, said Andrew D. Leipold, a University of Illinois law professor who has written critically about grand juries. It just doesnt happen.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/
ecstatic
(32,677 posts)postulater
(5,075 posts)AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Number of time I have heard of no bills? 0.
It does not happen in the wild.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)All evidence, especially exculpatory, going to the grand jury.
avebury
(10,952 posts)the system it can happen. He has refused to indict other cops who have been found to have committed a crime.
Logical
(22,457 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)the just set it up (or tried) to make it legitimate.
Logical
(22,457 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)JCMach1
(27,555 posts)cheyanne
(733 posts)"Had the prosecution desired an indictment against Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson, the presentment would have taken an hour, maybe two, and there would have been a true bill by close of business the next day, well before Michael Brown had been laid to rest. The grand jury isnt the venue to present all the evidence. Thats what trials are for. The grand jury serves a very limited function, to determine whether sufficient evidence exists so that there is probable cause to proceed to trial."
This is from Simple Justice blog of Scott Greenberg. It's at http://blog.simplejustice.us/2014/11/25/the-ferguson-lie/#more-22871.
He presents McColloch as trying to pawn off on the grand jury the decision that he as prosecutor should make.
Here is another lawyer blog at http://herculesandtheumpire.com/ that asks lawyers to comment on whether they would have indicted Wilson. Many interesting views. One that seems common to most prosecutors is that it is a two-step process to indict. First, the grand jury determines if there is sufficient evidence to proceed to trial. At this point the prosecutor has to decide if there is sufficient evidence to win a conviction.
In other words he evaluates the "evidence" to see if it is strong enough to convince a jury. This evaluation could involve the veracity of differing witnesses, the ambiguity of the physical evidence. True, if he believes that he does have a strong case to go to trial, he may try to influence them. But he has to take into account that while he feels someone is guilty and the evidence is not strong, he cannot in good faith, prosecute knowing that the person is "legally" guilty. (I hope I haven't screwed up the argument too much in retelling.)
It seems that McColloch gamed the system.
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