How the hell do you RUN OVER a protester ON VIDEO and be "not currently under arrest"????

[arcane1]

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A vehicle plowed through a group of demonstrators in Minneapolis Tuesday afternoon during a march and rally in the wake of a Missouri grand jury decision not to indict a white police officer for fatally shooting a black teenager.

A solidarity rally and march for Michael Brown, who was killed by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, was planned Tuesday near the Minneapolis Police Department’s 3rd Precinct headquarters at Lake Street and Minnehaha Avenue S.

A Star Tribune reporter who is at the rally says that witnesses say the vehicle started honking at protesters blocking the intersection before running down a woman around the start of the rally at 4:30 p.m.


http://m.startribune.com/local/minneapolis/283891941.html

Video at the link. *WARNING: GRAPHIC!*


What the ever-loving FUCK????


*****Edited to add second video, courtesy of Travis_0004*****

[Hoppy]

1. If the episode was the result of illness, you would not be arrested.

[ManiacJoe]

3. Arrested is a legally defined state of custody.

"Detained for interview" is a state where fewer restrictions on police behavior happen.

[maced666]

2. OMG look at that!

[jeff47]

4. If you arrest them, you have to tell them about that right to remain silent.

And wait for their attorney.

If you're just "chatting" with them, you don't.

[Jenoch]

5. If there were injuries, I am sure there

would be charges. The protesters were also breaking the law by impeading traffic so the case would have been somewhat murky.

[LiberalElite]

8. so it's ok to ram them and drive off with people on the hood and

one under the left front wheel? In what goddamn country do I live in now?

[Rex]

11. Lots of gloating going on over the verdict, as you can see.

You didn't know? If there is a crowd blocking the street...you can run over as many people as you like. I swear, some people here are so fucking transparent that it pains me to watch them in action.

[arcane1]

16. I pity the fool who is still crossing the street when the light turns green!

Fair game!

[Rex]

18. I'm glad I know that now! Always a pain in the ass waiting for pedestrians.

So now I can just gun it!

[GGJohn]

37. When I was stationed in W. Germany in the early 70's,

that certainly was the case, those German drivers back then were like Funny Cars at the Christmas Tree, inching up to the line hoping to beat the other car off the line, I pitied the fool still crossing the street when the light changed.

[Recursion]

13. We don't see how/when the people got on the hood and under the wheel (nt)

[Rex]

21. So you are saying people don't have the right of way, but cars do.

Interesting argument.

[Recursion]

27. Why do you assume the driver knew the person was in front of his tire?

Seriously. You aren't even a little bit skeptical about the fact that the video jumps in when the car is already surrounded, people are on the hood, and the woman is lying just in front of the tire?

In terms of the right of way, that again requires seeing the person, which you can't do if a crowd has jumped onto your hood.

[Rex]

29. They could see them, go look at the video.

[Recursion]

40. Well *I* can't see them in the post 22 video, except those jumping on the hood

So I can't say whether the driver saw the woman he hit.

[Rex]

43. Why did the driver move over the the right behind a crowd of people

and not keep with the flow of traffic. Looks like they wanted to run over people.

[Recursion]

46. I assume because he's an entitled asshole who was in a hurry

Keep in mind I've been driving in Mumbai for a year and a half now (I even caught myself thinking "he's driving on the wrong side of the road!&quot where... umm... "etiquette" on the road is different.

That said, as I posted below, having watched the aerial video in fullscreen I agree the driver seems to be in the wrong here.

[Rex]

51. Entitled asshole, I think that about sums it up.

Foolish too, that crowd could have dragged them from the car and beaten them to death.

[Jenoch]

28. Where did I write ANYTHING that would result in a reoly such as yours?

The driver might still be charged, we don't know what the county attorney may decide. I am juat glad there were no significant injuries with this incident.

Subaru Outback? The driver probably votes for Democrats.

[arcane1]

35. "Subaru Outback? The driver probably votes for Democrats." WTF does that mean?

[Rex]

9. Really? I doubt that, you cannot run over someone with a car it is illegal.

Props to you for defending the driver.

[LiberalElite]

6. HOLY FKG SHT! nt

[Hassin Bin Sober]

7. I wondering what those people are doing on the hood of that car.

[arcane1]

12. That part, we don't know.

I would've preferred to see the 5 or so seconds before the video started myself!

[Travis_0004]

22. look here

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It looks like the car is trying to slowly go through, and people surround them and they gun it.

[Rex]

25. Thanks for the video, the driver clearly meant to run over people.

Thanks for the video.

[arcane1]

30. Thanks for the extra video! It looks to me like they were trying to PUSH through.

The front of the car touches people before people touch the car. See the video during the 5th to 8th second.

[Rex]

48. I am guessing they are trying to go right on the next street and like you said push their way

totally foolish thing to do imo.

[arcane1]

56. Yeah, they may have thought they could intimidate people out of the way, and it failed utterly.

I'm glad the injuries were not serious. I'm also glad none of the car windows were broken.

[Rex]

57. I bet they were poo pooing the pants after coming to a stop.

Another reason it is foolish to plow into an angry mob...they can pull you out of the car and beat you to death. The driver is lucky to be alive imo.

[arcane1]

60. That's why I'm glad those damn windows held up!

At the time nobody knew it would be just minor injuries (since it was still happening!), they just saw what looked like a homicidal driver who needed to be stopped.

I'm glad the situation ended where it did, but I would be disappointed if the driver were legally deemed blameless

[Recursion]

33. I see the car stop and three people jump on the hood

Then the driver tries to get the hell out of there.

Is that not what you see? It's pretty clear to me.

[arcane1]

39. It didn't stop. THe video stutters a bit at first, but fullscreen the car keeps moving.

[Recursion]

42. Let me try it fullscreen (nt)

[arcane1]

50. Again, I appreciate your healthy, rational skepticism, and I wish DU had more of it!!!!

I like to think I'm not someone who would mistake Venus for a UFO, until I do

[Recursion]

55. Venus

I remember the first time I ever noticed Venus. I was stationed in the Mojave and pulled second firewatch (because, you know, metal Quonset huts in the high desert catch on fire like all the time). We were right on the west side of a mountain. The sky was a dark pink, and the brightest "star" I have ever seen in my life pops over the mountain.

I had taken two astronomy classes in college, so I suppose I "knew" about Venus already, but it literally took my breath away. I can totally get why ancients thought it was a goddess, and modern people think it's a UFO...

[arcane1]

59. Especially when it's at low altitude, the effect is awe-inspiring.

The reason I mentioned it in the first place was because I had known about it for years, and spent many years thinking only a complete idiot would mistake Venus for anything except a bright star. Then one night during the winter I was driving through some hilly woods in Virginia, and saw low on the horizon this ball of light that bounced around the top of a distant hill. I SWORE it moved around!!

I eventually stooped the car and observed it, and realized I was that dumb-ass. Its low altitude made it seem larger and closer, and I was getting a strobe light effect from the leafless trees when I was driving. So it was a beautiful experience all around, that has stuck with me for over 25 years now

[Recursion]

52. Yes, you're right. Fullscreen makes a big difference

He did not stop at any point.

[Warren Stupidity]

66. you are seeing what you want to see.

[Rex]

14. Trespassing, obviously.

Standing in the street means a driver can run them over no problem - read it right here on the DU!

[Recursion]

17. No, but jumping on their hood means a driver gets afraid. Could he even see her?

And then does something he might not do with a cooler head, like try to get the hell out of there.

Did "the driver run over" the woman or did "the woman put herself in front of his wheel"? Could he see her with all those people on his hood?

[Rex]

19. I don't know, but you cannot run over people it is against the law.

But please do make a case for it, this should be funny. Um...maybe the person driving should have stopped?

[Recursion]

23. If you can't see the person lying in front of your car (because people are on your hood)

how is it a crime?

maybe the person driving should have stopped?

You'd want to stop if a crowd of people are surrounding your car and pounding it?

[Rex]

26. Check out the video in post #22, it clearly shows the driver meant to run over people.

[Recursion]

31. OMG did you watch it? He stops and three people jump on his hood.

I'd get the hell out of there too.

[Rex]

36. You mean you would purposely not follow the flow of traffic and get right next to people

to run them over? Good to know. Why didn't the driver put the car in reverse, they had nobody behind them. Nice try.

[Recursion]

38. No, I wouldn't get that close to a protest in a car

For this exact reason.

[Rex]

47. Same here, okay maybe they wanted to turn right and the crowd was blocking them.

But I would not try and run over people just to turn right. Then again that is just me and I would never try and get my car in between a group of angry people.

[Recursion]

49. I really do think my judgment here is compromised because of my commute

I get that close to crowds that dense at pretty much every intersection. I'm kind of worried about when I come back to the States...

[Rex]

54. Sorry, I forget you are in India.

I remember my jaw dropping as I watched South Korean pedestrians showing no fear of oncoming traffic. They also ignored our tanks when we rolled down the street as if we were ghosts.

[arcane1]

61. I commute as a pedestrian and I surely have a bias there too :)

[Brigid]

62. Several years ago,

Some of the drivers from "Ice Road Truckers" went to India to try their hand at driving in the Himalayas. They were hilarious! They were used to thinking safety, safety, safety, and it's total chaos. One driver didn't even make it out of New Delhi on his first run before he gave up and went home. Another, the only woman, had her truck mobbed and the two other drivers had to rescue her. One of them was constantly saying stuff like "Did you see that? That woman walked right in front of me!" Or "That guy almost sideswiped me!" And he absolutely hated those little green buses on those narrow mountain roads. Speaking of those roads, I don't know how they built them in the first place. It made for some great TV!

[arcane1]

20. Thank you for bringing the calm rationality that I usually like to bring, but failed to this time

[840high]

24. Thank you.

[Recursion]

15. I definitely want to see how they got there before I make up my mind (nt)

[arcane1]

32. New video, different timing and angle, in post 22

[Recursion]

34. And in it I see three people jump on the hood after the car stops

[Rex]

41. So why not put the car in reverse and get away then? There was nobody behind them.

Also, why purposely move behind a crowd of people and not follow the rest of the cars detouring around the crowd? Hmmm?

[Recursion]

44. OK, having watched it in fullscreen that looks a lot worse for the driver

He does seem to be in motion the whole time.

[Rex]

45. What is telling is that they purposely move out of traffic and behind a group of people.

IMO.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

53. I tend to agree.

[Recursion]

58. Yeah. That situation calls for a three-point turn and a call to the boss

Probably followed by an "aww, fuck work today" and a nice pint at the pub.

[arcane1]

64. Yep, the stopped car respected the difference between human flesh and car metal

Whatever we don't know about the driver, we know this: they appear to be an asshole.

[Demonaut]

10. Subaru...share the love.......

[arcane1]

63. Yay! I just noticed the people on the left side, who PREVENT people from attacking the car.

The person in the grey-ish jacket said, basically, don't meet violence with violence.

I love it

[ScreamingMeemie]

65. I could see it if there was a woman birthing a baby in the backseat... a son driving his

mother with stroke-like symptoms... A child with a gash above her eye.

Lots of things. I am hoping that person had a danged good reason. I admit I can't watch the video because it appears horrific even in the still.