Nurse who had Ebola asks bridal store for refunds

[tammywammy]

AKRON, Ohio (AP) -- A Dallas nurse who was diagnosed with Ebola is requesting refunds from the Ohio bridal shop she visited, but the store says the reimbursements aren't feasible because it had to temporarily close and lost significant business.

Amber Vinson's Dallas attorney asked that Coming Attractions Bridal & Formal refund $480 in dress payments by several of Vinson's bridesmaids, the Akron Beacon Journal (http://bit.ly/1xS8jiX) reported.

Attorney Stephen Malouf said Vinson, who has recovered, saw the publicity of her case harm the store and decided to get bridesmaids' dresses elsewhere to avoid further scrutiny for the business.

Owner Anna Younker said Vinson's change of heart and the refund request feel like a slap in the face after the shop lost tens of thousands of dollars because of its connection to her.

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/story/27477407/nurse-who-had-ebola-asks-bridal-shop-for-refunds

Are you kidding me?

[liberal N proud]

1. That takes some balls

[Fred Sanders]

9. No, it takes some understanding of medical science and mass hysteria fuelled by the media...you

clearly were a victim of Fearbola as were the customers the shop lost, Hero Nurse Vinson had nothing to do with it.

[LisaL]

12. WTF does understanding of medical science have to do with her deciding to not get

dresses there and then asking for a refund when it's against store policy?

[Ms. Toad]

15. You put a non-refundable deposit down

and then decide to go elsewhere - for whatever reason - you lose your deposit.

She's free to leave, but demanding (via her lawyer) a refund "effort to help the shop" from a company that has already lost significant business because of its association with you is incredibly offensive.

(from my thread on this yesterday:

Attorney Stephen Malouf said Vinson, who has recovered, saw the publicity of her case harm the store and decided to get bridesmaids' dresses elsewhere to avoid further scrutiny for the business. Owner Anna Younker said Vinson's change of heart and the refund request feel like a slap in the face after the shop lost tens of thousands of dollars because of its connection to her.

Malouf said that wasn't Vinson's intention. "I'm sorry that the shop is upset. This was an effort to help the shop and Amber," he said. "This was a purely innocent request and I'm sorry it wasn't received in the spirit in which it was sent."

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Ohio-Bridal-Shop-Denies-Amber-Vinson-Refund-283832441.html )

You don't hire an attorney to send an innocent request, intended to help the shop. If that was truly their intent, they will withdraw the request.

[liberal N proud]

16. How do you figure?

She had paid a deposit on merchandise then after causing harm to the business, she had balls enough to expect a refund?

No medical science required, deposits are there to protect the business owner from customers who change their minds.

[Fred Sanders]

18. How did SHE cause harm? You seem to forget it was mass hysteria causing the harm.

And I think many want to justify their own hysteria now, instead of admitting being wrong.

[LawDeeDah]

76. I think that must be it because things are getting weird on this subject.

I think you nailed it. Some people just can't be wrong, Ever, ever ever. They will stick to their guns like superglue instead of admiting to perhaps, maybe, I misjudged, or perhaps maybe I should have considered bla bla.

[Fred Sanders]

128. Yes, exactly, the psychology unfolding on this thread of victimization syndrome is fascinating.

[LawDeeDah]

129. Part of our survivalist walnut brain from millions of years ago

If you appear weak or small or present any 'danger' to the group/circle (like scaring the already fearful), you get kicked, smashed and stomped on so the rest of the tribe can amble along in their ways with nothing slowing them down. Pointed and hobnailed boots will be applied.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

77. Speaking only for myself

She shouldn't have traveled, but having said that, it wasn't her that caused harm to the store, it was the media-driven Ebola panic.

But all that aside, she still shouldn't get a refund, because there is a no refund policy. Surviving Ebola doesn't make her special when it comes to her financial dealings/obligations.

[LawDeeDah]

32. It wasn't she who caused the harm, it was mass hysteria stupidity. I'd bill CNN and the enablers

[liberalhistorian]

49. She was not a hero. She travelled on a plane

to other parts of the country knowing she'd been exposed to Ebola and had no qualms exposing others to it. She's got some real balls here asking for this refund and going elsewhere.

[Fred Sanders]

53. Your lack of regard for medical heroism in Africa you care not for, I get it, but your ignorance of

facts and rejection of science is unacceptable.

[WillowTree]

98. You do realize, don't you, that she was not exposed to ebola in Africa.

Don't you?

[Judi Lynn]

56. Wish I could unread your post. Good grief. n/t

[moriah]

85. Go treat some patients with a scary disease, then talk about heroes.

Unless you want to call for isolating all hospital contacts -- and the "fever" Amber had at the time she boarded the flight was below CDC recommendations. She called and asked if she could fly, both times, they said yes. 99.5, what she was running at the time of the second flight back home, is barely considered a fever in the medical profession, and the CDC's guidelines said 100.4 at the time.

Blame them.

[Rhinodawg]

122. Well...thats just amazing.

seriously ?

[Crunchy Frog]

55. Not a hero.

She contracted a deadly disease at work, and then went shopping.

Her act caused devastating losses to the business, and now she's rubbing salt into the wound by withdrawing even more business, and claiming she's doing it to "help".

Yeah, that's some real heroism there.

[Fred Sanders]

95. Unbelievably you think spending months in Africa helping others at risk to self is not heroic..that

somehow returning America, a nation including YOU, also protected by her sacrifice, with approval of the CDC, and asking for a refund of a few bucks because of her illness negates all that...unbelievable...how you anti-science folks cling to your fear is sad.

But you keep on protecting the world with your keyboard, the medical heroes will do the real work for you and not ask for your gratitude.

By the way, she infected no one.

[tammywammy]

97. Vinson didn't spend months in Africa.

She's a nurse at Dallas' Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. I think you're thinking of the nurse that lives in Maine.

Btw, I don't fault her for following the CDC. She asked and they said okay. The reason people were affected business wise is because they followed their irrational emotional fear and not the science.

[WillowTree]

99. Which months did she spend in Africa?

Please. Enlighten us.

[Fred Sanders]

100. That was an error, the point being these nurses are heroically on the front lines...you keep your

fear to yourself, keep your hands off the heroes.

It was another hero nurse returning from Africa subject to the same ignorant media driven fear so many like you bought into and now try to deflect with more attacks, I stand corrected.

[WillowTree]

102. You don't know the first thing about what I did or didn't buy into.

I didn't say anything at all about whether or not I thought her request for a refund was reasonable or if I did or didn't think she should have traveled or gone shopping. I was just calling into question the degree of your awareness of what the actual facts of Ms. Vinson's situation were. You jumped to a conclusion and then lashed out at me for pointing it out. Not a particularly effective deflection, but whatever.

[Crunchy Frog]

121. Jumping to conclusions without facts.

Not very "scientific" on his part, unless his definition of science is a rather novel one.

[Crunchy Frog]

107. ROFL! She didn't spend a second in Africa.

Unless you now think it's "anti-science" to claim that Dallas is in Texas and not in Africa.

At least get your basic facts right before you pontificate and hurl ridiculous accusations at the rest us.

[Fred Sanders]

118. I hurl all I have at medical science deniers and fear mongers....I am just that way. You folk cling

to your fear...by the way, what happened to all the Fearbola anyway?

[Crunchy Frog]

120. You project and namecall and call that "science".

I don't think you even know what science even is.

And which scientific methodology did you use to reach the conclusion that I ever had any fear concerning Ebola? Who are the "you folk" that I'm supposedly a member of?

Knowing things without evidence. The epitomy of "scientific" thinking in your mind.

[840high]

127. Not a hero to me - she

has some nerve.

[magical thyme]

2. store owner should sue Vinson for her business losses.

Unbelievable.

[Fred Sanders]

8. How did Vinson cause the store losses?

[magical thyme]

40. she went shopping while she was starting to show symptoms...

If she's going to cancel her order and try to get back a nonrefundable deposit, she needs to know that 2 can play that game.

Or she can just buy the dresses she already ordered.

[liberalhistorian]

50. By going into the store knowing

she'd been exposed to Ebola and could quite possibly be exposing others. This owner lost three weeks worth of business and some of the store's reputation. Vinson was wrong and the store owner shouldn't have to suffer for it.

[Fred Sanders]

52. No. They lost business because of hysteria, nothing more, no one was at risk, scientifically

speaking. You are speaking out of hysteria and scientific ignorance and factual mistakes, and terminology confusion.

[Jamastiene]

79. You mean to try to convince us that you honestly do not know how the public thinks?

That is how the public thinks. It might have been because of hysteria, but that doesn't change the fact that the place lost a lot of business. The least she can do is not ask for them to lose even more money and put their names back in the headlines. With the way most people think, it could lose them even more business. She didn't have to mention going to the shop if she was so sure she couldn't have infected anyone there. So, hell yeah, they should sue her for their losses. She could have left them out of it.

[Crunchy Frog]

109. Public health officials forced a three week closure

And decontamination on her shop.

For god's sake, man. Get your basic facts straight before you go lecturing the rest of us about "science".

[Fred Sanders]

117. Public health officials also panicked and did not understand the science, like the ones in Maine and

New Jersey. It was unnecessary and fed the panic of folks like you.

Man.

[Crunchy Frog]

119. The only person I see panicking on this board is you.

You need to stop projecting your own issues onto other people.

And "scientifically", it was the governors in Maine and New Jersey, not the public health officials. Scientific thinking means looking at actual documented evidence, and going by that criteria, your "scientific" thinking is practically non-existent. Again, please stop projecting.

[Iggo]

20. Store owner should do exactly as store owner is doing and keep the non-refundable deposit.

[magical thyme]

41. you're right, of course

but I'm getting tired of people's games. Canceling her dress order in no way alleviates the prior losses by the store owner. They were already fitted. The right thing for Vinson to do would be to buy the dresses they already ordered.

[shenmue]

3. Aww jimony

[LisaL]

4. She saw publicity harm the store, so she decided to not

get the dresses there and ask for a refund?
How would that help the store?

[NV Whino]

6. Critical thinking at its best.

[uppityperson]

22. so the continuing fearful people would feel safe, because even though she

was no longer sick, what makes us believe we can trust the authorities who say it is safe. Sort of like MrDuncan's fiance's difficullties finding a place to rent. However I bet there is more to this story.

[magical thyme]

42. How does canceling an order for dresses make the public feel safer?

The fittings were already done, weren't they? The dresses are already ruined for anybody else.

[uppityperson]

47. Did you even read the post you replied to?

so the continuing fearful people would feel safe, because even though she was no longer sick, what makes us believe we can trust the authorities who say it is safe.

[Crunchy Frog]

58. Maybe she doesn't want her bridesmaids

to be tarnished by bad publicity.

[unblock]

5. alrighty -- she claims she was doing the store a favor, to spare them further scrutiny?

and to screw over some other business instead by getting dresses there instead?

sounds like a lawyer grasping for some way to put a positive spin on the refund request.


though, i'm not clear on why this made the papers. neither party has an interest in telling a reporter about this, i don't think.

[Fred Sanders]

7. She fucking visited the store while not symptomatic...so it is the fucking scardy cat ignorant public

that lost her business, not the hero nurse Vinson, along with the fucking hair on fire media...so she should get her refund back.

By the way, what happened to Fearbola? You scardy cat anti- science folks should be ashamed to ever post on the subject again.

Apologies on behalf of Science accepted here.....

[LisaL]

11. The store has a policy against refunds.

So WTF should she get one?
Store is already out of a lot of money.
WTF was her reason for not getting her dresses there?

[Ms. Toad]

13. According to the CDC's current guidelines she was symptomatic.

Their current guidelines recommend a medical examination and immediate isolation until Ebola is ruled out for anyone in the top two exposure levels (Vinson fits in that category) + any symptoms of Ebola (including fatigue - which is specifically listed as a symptom). She was experiencing fatigue before she visited the bridal shop.

Fatigue is a vague symptom which can be associated with any number of illnesses, which is why it is only when combined with the exposure level Vinson had (or higher) that it forms the basis for a recommendation of immediate isolation.

[Crunchy Frog]

60. CDC and its anti science hysteria!!!11!

[Ms. Toad]

65. I know.

I get tired of reciting the CDC line before the CDC says it, having them adopt my line (not that they have any awareness of what I've been saying) and then being trashed (both before and after the CDC says exactly the same thing) for inciting hysteria...by folks who apparently have no idea about what the CDC now says is appropriate precautions.

[WolverineDG]

62. She also was running a fever. Nt

[Ms. Toad]

63. Not when she visited the bridal shop.

At the time of the bridal shop she was just fatigued, and except for having been exposed to Ebola there would have been no reason to take any particular precautions because of the fatigue.

[WolverineDG]

67. Didn't she have a fever at some point though?

I was on vacation at the time (ironically a cruise, but not THAT cruise), so might not be correct.

But yeah, that takes some guts to demand $ back from a business harmed because you didn't follow protocol.

[Ms. Toad]

71. She developed a fever before the flight home.

But not before the bridal shop visit.

My personal opinion is that, as a nurse, she should have had enough sense to isolate herself when she started feeling ill - which was before the bridal shop, and possibly before the first flight.

I'm a lay person, reasonably well versed in infectious disease. You can search on DU and you will find that my statements about what should have happened match almost 100% with what the CDC has now adopted once it had a real Ebola case in front of it. My statements covered the gamut of protective clothing, manner of use of protective clothing, restriction of people caring for Ebola patients, and the point at which someone exposed should be isolated, and so on. There is no excuse, in my mind, for someone with medical training to be incapable of reaching the same conclusion.

Siccing her lawyer on them to retrieve a few hundred bucks is beyond the pale, in my book.

[WolverineDG]

93. Mine too

And yes I do think she should have acted differently. She's a nurse, after all.

[laundry_queen]

116. I agree with everything you said. nt

[tammywammy]

14. The store has a no refund policy.

And the excuse of not wanting to cause more scrutiny is BS.

[LawDeeDah]

34. I totally agree. This is an unusual circumstance so the 'keep deposit' thing shouldn't apply.

This nurse is a hero, but here we go again.... pick pick pick peck peck.

[tammywammy]

36. How is it really that unusual?

The ladies paid a deposit, she got sick, and then got better. She's still getting married.

An unusual circumstance would be if she had died and then the store refused to consider a refund to the other ladies.

[LawDeeDah]

48. For one thing, that dress shop could have had a lot of business from the

nurses's union or anyone who would have appreciated their generosity to return the deposit. That would have got a long way in good will.

Ebola is a bit unusual, yes. That whole circus was unusual.

I would have given her the money back if I were the shop. I would have been shamed to do what they did. But people love to pick pick pick peck peck

[SickOfTheOnePct]

54. BS

It's a business that is upfront about the no refund policy. She decided to buy the dresses somewhere else, so she should lose her deposit, just like anyone else would.

The fact that she had Ebola is irrelevant.

[LawDeeDah]

61. and BS back atcha.

money above all, all the time no matter the circumstances. yeh, great.

This nurse has been shat upon by too many, even so called progressives and democrats. When she is at work in hospital, maybe she will just go by the book and not be involved in the many extra kindnesses nurses do for people every day.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

64. Why exactly do you believe she should get a refund?

She knew the policy, she put down her money, then decided to buy her dresses elsewhere.

Why should she get her money back? And if they give her a refund, why shouldn't they give everyone a refund when they change their minds?

[LawDeeDah]

72. you know what, I don't give a fuck.

feel great because you are such a rule stickler! The planet is short.

[tammywammy]

69. I highly doubt giving her a refund would have netted any good return from the nurses union.

She's not even a nurse in Cleveland. If her fellow nurses were going to show support it would be in Dallas.

Like I said earlier, a phone call and showing some sympathy to the owner probably would have gotten a refund. A BS letter from a lawyer gets the fuck you it deserves.

[LawDeeDah]

73. okay you win. No exceptions for anything ever.

This is so petty it's unbelievable. Yeh, it's believable.

[Dorian Gray]

110. Why was she deserving of a special

exemption? It's not like her wedding was cancelled because she was sick. She chose to go with another place for bridesmaid's gowns.

[LawDeeDah]

111. Is this a soap opera?

All this negative energy toward this person is just baffling.

[Dorian Gray]

113. That's where you're wrong

I have no negative energy toward her. I think the people who were screaming that she was selfish and shouldn't have flown (when she took the steps to call to inquire about her health before she did) were unfair to her.

But there is no logical reason why she deserves a refund on her deposit. Because she recovered from a terrible illness? She chose to shop elsewhere. If she honestly did that out of the kindness of her heart, she should have spoken to the store prior to doing so and asked if it was possible to get her deposit back. Instead she sent a letter from her lawyer after the fact. That's sort of shitty. Rather than conversing in person, she sent a letter from her lawyer.

So, whie she is brave and I'm happy she recovered from this horrible illness, and I never thought she was deserving of any condemnation regarding that, I also don't believe she is deserving of extra privileges when shopping for wedding clothing for her bridesmaids because she was brave and recovered from a life threatening illness.

It's not negative energy toward anybody. It's reality.

Your inability to see that she is asking for treatment above and beyond what the store offers other customers is baffling.

[Crunchy Frog]

123. Agreed. Vinson is being extraordinarily petty. n/t

[uppityperson]

74. I live in WA, am a fellow nursing giving her support. Shame on thinking only those she worked with

would support her.

[tammywammy]

81. So from Washington state you're going to travel to Cleveland to buy dresses?

[uppityperson]

83. wtf? I'm already married. I was responding to you saying nurses where she lived would support her,

not those in another state.

"I highly doubt giving her a refund would have netted any good return from the nurses union.

She's not even a nurse in Cleveland.If her fellow nurses were going to show support it would be in Dallas."

Nurses all over show her support, including those in Cleveland.

[magical thyme]

43. She was symptomatic when she visited, per CDC's current guidelines

And while I agree nurse Vinson was a hero in treating Duncan, that does not mean she gets to order dresses -- which likely were fitted during that visit and have undergone alterations -- to blow off that order without repurcussions and cause further losses to the store.

The lawyer is really stretching it to claim that her purchasing the dresses -- which by virtue of being altered to fit the bride's maids -- would some how cause further losses to the business.

In reality, blowing off the order causes further losses because once those dresses are altered, they are no longer new and may not be easily altered to fit anybody else.

That is why they have non-refundable down payments on such dresses. The fittings aren't just to try the on for how they look. It's to alter them for a perfect fit.

[HappyMe]

10. FFS!

No!

[Ms. Toad]

17. I posted this yesterday.

Glad your version is getting some attention.

[tammywammy]

19. I just heard about it this morning on the local news.

And then it was brought up on the local news AM channel while I drove it.

It's incredulous request.

[Ms. Toad]

28. That was my reaction, as well.

[uppityperson]

21. If the store has a no refund policy she is out of luck. She lost them no business, fear

and ignorance did so she owes them nothing either. It sounds like there may be more to this story than this short report.

[tammywammy]

27. I looked at a bunch of articles and none say anything different.

Her lawyer sent a request for a refund.

[uppityperson]

38. I see no issue with asking for a refund, but not to expect it.

Even places with no refund policy, it is ok to ask. But not to expect.

[tammywammy]

39. I agree

But I think it's the fact a lawyer sent it and that it's basically saying "I'd like to help you, so give me my money back" that's causing umbrage. She could have just called and talked to the owner. I think if she had just apologized for the disruption to the business (which I get was caused by hysteria), her showing a bit of empathy to the store owner would have gone a long way.

Plus I don't think there would have been any more scrutiny to the store if she continued to use them.

[magical thyme]

44. She didn't ask. Her lawyer did, and took it public. nt

[KMOD]

23. Zales replaces Amber Vinson's destroyed engagement ring.

The Dallas nurse who flew to Ohio to plan her wedding in the days before she was diagnosed with Ebola and then said her engagement ring was destroyed when her apartment was decontaminated now has a new ring.

Amber Vinson and her fiancé, Derrick Markray, visited a Zales Jewelers jewelry store in Dallas Tuesday where they were able to pick out a new ring free of charge.


Now Vinson says she and Markray are moving forward with their lives and hoping that the treatment she received to save her life from Ebola does not leave her unable to start a family.

“I would like one day to have children, and there is some question whether or not that will be possible, because we don't know," she told WFAA. "I'm just prayerful and hopeful that that will work out."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/ebola-nurse-amber-vinson-engagement-ring-zales/story?id=27028598

Just thought I'd add this, since we are posting things that don't seem newsworthy. This story reeks of some kind of payback, for those who are unjustifiably angry with her.

Edited title, my apologies for offending anyone.

[tammywammy]

25. She didn't con Zales for a new ring.

Her ring was trashed by the decontamination crew and Zales offered her a new ring.

[yardwork]

66. How was her ring trashed? On edit - it was incinerated.

Diamonds are one of the hardest substances in nature. It's not at all easy to "trash" a diamond. What did they do to it?

I read the link and saw that her ring and other jewelry was actually incinerated by the decon team.

[tammywammy]

70. Which is ridiculous really.

Throwing away jewelry. SMH.

[LawDeeDah]

82. wtf, now you are calling her a con artist?

that is despicable. What is your problem with this woman?

[tammywammy]

84. Please read the fucking post I replied to BEFORE it was edited.

That post said she conned them. I specifically said she did not con them. SMH.

[KMOD]

103. That was my bad, LawDeeDah

I was being snarky, and it didn't go over well.

Sorry, Tammywammy.

[LawDeeDah]

104. ah, okay.

[tammywammy]

106. I'll accept your apology in advance.

Since you didn't clearly comprehend my "did not com them" statement.

[LawDeeDah]

108. I guess I didn't see the edit.

I do not check edits, as I think this is what happened. By what I saw I thought you were saying she was a conner.

Sure, I will say I'm sorry, it's not that hard to do.

[IdaBriggs]

26. Appreciation for fixing of post.

Kudos to Zales Jewelers for graciously giving the woman a new ring.

EDITED in appreciation of poster listening to my concern.

[KMOD]

29. I was being snarky. My apologies. I will fix it.

[tammywammy]

30. Considering the markup on jewelry, it was probably pennies for Zales.

Thumbs up to Zales.

[Ms. Toad]

31. There is a big difference between a jewelery company

voluntarily offering her a ring, and having your lawyer send a demand letter for a return of non-refundable deposits claiming that you are doing it for the benefit of the store.

One is a company choosing to generate some good will. Another is a store that has already been damaged by its association with Ms. Vinson being told by Ms. Vinson's counsel that she expects them to waive their non-refundable deposit policy so she can go elsewhere - for their own good.

Kind of like the difference between voluntarily entering the boxing ring, and getting beat for walking down the street.

[KMOD]

33. She believed she was being helpful.

Her intent, was not to hurt the store even more.

The Bridal store has been hurt badly. Not by Amber Vinson, but by ignorance.

The bridal shop has denied Amber her refund. Not sure why this story is being discussed in this manner. If we want to talk about how the bridal shop has been financially hurt, we should discuss the facts of how and why it was hurt. Not about a dress refund.

[Ms. Toad]

35. Nonsense.

You don't send a demand letter from your attorney for a refund of non-refundable deposits if your intent is to be helpful.

If you really think it would be helpful to take your business elsewhere, you just quietly take your business elsewhere and eat the loss. At the very most, she should politely ask and accept "no" for an answer.

As to the harm done to the store - we'll have to agree to differ. Under current CDC guidelines, Amber Vinson had no business being in the store. She was in one of the top two levels of risk, and she was already experiencing fatigue - one of the symptoms which the CDC guidelines recommend immediate isolation (in combination with the exposure she had) until Ebola is ruled out. Their position matches what - as far as I am concerned - should have been the guidelines all along. So, while the size of the loss (closing for 21 days) was unreasonable, even the less extreme and appropriate measures taken by the store cost it far more than the deposit she is demanding be returned.

[KMOD]

37. Her intent, is her intent, it can't be argued.

Attorney Stephen Malouf said Vinson, who has recovered, saw the publicity of her case harm the store and decided to get bridesmaids' dresses elsewhere to avoid further scrutiny for the business.

Owner Anna Younker said Vinson's change of heart and the refund request feel like a slap in the face after the shop lost tens of thousands of dollars because of its connection to her.

Malouf said that wasn't Vinson's intention.

"I'm sorry that the shop is upset," he said. "This was an effort to help the shop and Amber. ... This was a purely innocent request and I'm sorry it wasn't received in the spirit in which it was sent."

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/amber-vinson-nurse-who-had-ebola-asks-bridal-shop-refunds-n256151

[Ms. Toad]

51. I've written enough demand letters which generate negative publicity,

which I've followed up with statements feigning innocence to know that particular flavor of BS when I see it.

[magical thyme]

46. Her lawyer said it was an attempt to help the store *and to help Amber*

If she really wanted to help the store, she could simply have asked them if it would be helpful to them to cancel the dress purchases and if so, could she have a refund.

You don't send lawyers to "help" somebody; you send a lawyer to intimidate them into obeying your unreasonable request.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

68. She sounds like she's begging for sympathy

What part of Ebola treatment would cause infertility? It's supportive care.

[KMOD]

78. Long term effects of Ebola

we really don't know much but

Any patient who survives a severe viral infection could have damage to their kidneys, liver and heart, as well as long-term fertility issues. So if an Ebola patient survives, you can only imagine some of the long-term consequences he or she may face. As more patients survive and recover from this disease, we might begin to get a better idea on some of these issues. One thing’s for certain for many of these patients — they may survive, but they’ll never be the same.

http://www.phillytrib.com/news/health/article_2ecfaaf6-452c-5fcd-b831-f8100d4ceda3.html?mode=jqm

[SickOfTheOnePct]

86. Thank you for the correction

I wasn't aware of that.

[LawDeeDah]

87. What??? What is WRONG with you people?

begging for sympathy...

jeeeeeezus.
let me guess, you believed Wolf Blitzer and all the bullhorn alarmists. Now you have to take it out on someone, and Vinson is as good a target as any.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

90. Wrong again n/t

[LawDeeDah]

80. I would hazard guesses that the wayback machine has some very familiar names

that talked smacky soap opera meanness about this wonderful nurse right off the hop.

[etherealtruth]

24. This store really got "screwed" ....

I can't speak to Ms. Vinson's motivation (it could be good, bad, whatever) ... but, this store was screwed (by the media , public ignorance and fear) ... regardless, this store suffered from the entire debacle.

I understand their being miffed.

[Rex]

45. This is a great example of a non-story becoming a national news story.

It bothers me that so many people would be that willfully ignorant, as to refuse to do business with the store.

Also, non-refundable means just that. She should just move on imo.

[Judi Lynn]

57. You speak for many others, too, believe me. I wondered, also, who the hell would publish this. n/t

[Ms. Toad]

75. It's a story because she didn't just move on.

She didn't ask the store politely for a refund, or for their opinion about whether they would like her to continue as a customer. Instead she sent her lawyer after the store.

Regardless of whether you believe she is completely innocent, or failed to follow some of her medical training, her interactions in the Akron area inconvenienced many (even if you limit those impacted to the ones who followed the Summit County Board of Health's guidelines - not the ones who went way overboard). That list of people inconvenienced includes the bridal store.

It is wholly inappropriate for her to expect to shift further consequences arising from her interactions in the Akron area to those she interacted with.

[LawDeeDah]

89. As The Ebola Scare Turns...

into Nothing, - the soap opera of fear brought to you by the media and scardy cats.

the fearful ones (that thought Ebola was waiting for them around the corner, everywhere) that ate up the alarmist bullshit from the media, must have their day of revenge and Vinson is handy and probably won't fight back.

[Fred Sanders]

96. Not revenge so much as trying to justify buying into the media fear.

[Dorian Gray]

114. You don't find

sending a letter from your lawyer rather than speaking to the store owners directly to be somewhat obnoxious?

Rather than ask you to think about this from another perspective I'm going to send you a cease and desist letter from my lawyer with absolutely no legal backing.

[Ms. Toad]

125. tell it to the CDC

Whose current guidelines are 100% in line with everything I have said.

Aside from which, this is about Vinson acting like a jerk in demanding, via her attorney, a refund of a nonrefundable deposit - and pretending that doing so is a favor to the bridal store, rather than adding more cost to the inconvenience and cost already incurred b/c of having Vinson as a customer. Having her attorney send that letter was asking for public comment/criticism

[kelliekat44]

59. Actually the store should sue FOX News and CNN for the hysterical coverage that cost them business.

[LawDeeDah]

88. nah, it's always easier to pick on the weaker than CNN and FOX in cases like these.

must be so satisfying.

[Crunchy Frog]

112. No, they should actually sue the public health officials

Who forced a three week closure, and decontamination.

[LawDeeDah]

115. Maybe that is what she hired a lawyer for.

but people are insisting that she hired a lawyer to get her refund back and how tacky that is. I don't think lawyers come cheaper than the $400 refund. In one way I hope this story just goes away, it shouldn't even been one in the first place, but otoh a follow up to clear some nonsense up would be welcome.

[LawDeeDah]

91. K&R to nurses everywhere.

They have tough jobs and now they have to put up with stupid crap like this nonstory stupid crap.

Hey all, Hope all your bedpans get emptied in time!

[Blue_Tires]

92. I don't understand getting the attorney involved...

Is there some law in OH that says the bridal store must refund the deposit?

And isn't the attorney's time worth a lot more than the $480, if I have that amount right??

[LawDeeDah]

94. He might be working on something else

and this refund thing was just an incidental. I see no reason to hire a lawyer just for that - something else must be happening.

[AngryOldDem]

101. Meanwhile, the store lost tens of thousands of dollars.

I was going to say that Younker should sue Vinson -- but no. What part of "nonrefundable" doesn't Vinson understand?

I agree -- it takes some balls.

[KMOD]

105. Amber still need to get her veil from Anna Younker,

My guess is they will eventually work things out, and that won't make the news.

[SoCalDem]

124. The store owner should prepare a list of charges SHE incurred

due to the "exposure", then deduct what Ms. Vinson claims she is due..

and suggest that she (Vinson) send an additional check for the balance..

that should be enough

[LawDeeDah]

130. good lord....

here we go again, money trumps all. Vinson should PAY the dress shop now for all the losses? wt royal f?

stomp on the little guy, stomp stomp squish. aw, feels so good.

[locdlib]

126. appears that amber vinson is really pushing to keep herself in the spotlight.

first she whined when hazmat didn't carefully safeguard her engagement ring when they decontaminated her home. zales gifted her a new ring. now she is seeking deposit refunds because of her having ebola and having shopped at the bridal shop caused the owner to lose money. please. no, she doesn't get any special hero nurse recognition from me. she did her job as a nurse, was exposed to a deadly virus, and was successfully treated. she's no different in that regard than nina pham, dr. Brantley, nancy writebol, and dr. spencer. she needs to go away now and live her life and stop seeking special attention. no one else is doing that. she's the only one.