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Crazy Conservative Friend: Where was the national guard Obama!!!????Me: (Links to awesome thread titled) "No need for the National Guard here:" http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025866328 (filled with white people rioting / acting foolish over sporting events)
Crazy Conservative Friend: Typical Libral logic. 2 or more wrongs, makes a right.
Me: Have you been right about anything about Obama yet? Gas prices down, stock market up, unemployment down, Bin Ladin dead - do you want a pony? Is that why you think Obama should have interfered in a situation where the GOVERNOR has to request the activation of the National Guard? Or do you really want him ignoring the rule of law and acting like a dictator (which so far he has only done in the minds of the crazy conservatives)?
I'm kind of proud of it.
Raul Hernandez
(78 posts)They're not worth it in FB.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)We usually ignore each other's politics. To be fair, I broke the barrier on this one, but the "auto-Obama" just irritated me.
tosh
(4,423 posts)unfriend FB.
It's a cesspool.
eggplant
(3,911 posts)and I'm a technologist!
C Moon
(12,213 posts)...wait, I agree with IdaBriggs: I too have one left. A musician friend from when I was 17-18. I just turn off his posts whenever I see them. At least he doesn't post RW replies on my posts.
Pakid
(478 posts)When it comes to the holidays I am always glad that I have no relatives living close to me to many of them are Republican . Nothing ruins a holiday like a Republican full of hate and out right BS. Happy T day
underpants
(182,823 posts)YOU deserve the pony
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)And I will confess that over a year ago I systematically unfriended all the kooks on my FB list. If they are making you crazy, they are not your friends. Keep the people who nurture you. You are worth it!
LP2K12
(885 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)logosoco
(3,208 posts)onyourleft
(726 posts)...done, Ida.
stage left
(2,962 posts)However I'm about convinced that trying to change the nerve cords(you really can't call them minds) of right wingers is futile. It's like banging your head against a steel door. It doesn't affect the steel door and gives you a helluva headache.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Reter
(2,188 posts)They spiked for a few years into his term until recently going down. I think a president doesn't have much to do with it. Remember those idiot Republicans in 2008 (when gas prices dropped dramatically) saying how it was because of Republicans?
Other than that though, you're on point. Throw in crime down too, and no more DADT.
alfredo
(60,074 posts)energy independence, it is about undercutting Putin.
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)like my sister is a waste of energy. Remember the adage about cement minds...all mixed up and permanently set. Good response on your part. RWNJ's have no response to anything factual.
livingonearth
(728 posts)It's always nice when you can do a little teaching in a smack down, not that it will do any good.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)Gay marriages DID NOT collapse Western civilization as promised.
Obama DID NOT start rounding up conservatives into FEMA camps as promised.
The election of 2008 DID NOT bring on repeats of the 9/11 attacks as promised.
The stimulus DID NOT bankrupt America as promised.
The list of promised calamities of the Obama administration is very long indeed.
But I have lost hope in getting the right wing to see beyond their hate and preconceived notions. (Pay particular attention to the fact that their ONLY defense is constant projection and saying that they were right all along even when demonstrably wrong.)
alfredo
(60,074 posts)obxhead
(8,434 posts)They are following their orders. Protect the property of the rich white people, let the rest burn.
orleans
(34,053 posts)i accepted the request
after a few days of seeing the crap she "liked" and posted (tea bagger bullshit & right wing diarrhea) i unfriended her.
her family moved to another state after we finished grade school.
and apparently we grew up worlds apart.
santamargarita
(3,170 posts)catbyte
(34,393 posts)share any bagger bs. I only use it to share online petitions anyways--I never pay attention to my page. Somebody messaged me & I didn't notice it for 6 months, lol. I don't trust it--my profile says I work at Vandalay Industries.
santamargarita
(3,170 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)It would be a grossly insulting usurpation of power for the President to nationalize the National Guard under these circumstances.
Doing so, was a significant factor in the mis-application of the National Guard during the Rodney King riots. When controlled by the Governor, State Guard, and National Guard elements CAN work in a law enforcement capacity. The moment you federalize control, they are restricted from civilian law enforcement operations by the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.
Arson that was getting under control when the National Guard (CANG elements) were doing law enforcement in the streets, reversed and increased after federalization, because their role changed. They stopped doing law enforcement/curfew patrols, and instead guarded chosen things (certain buildings) and manned fixed installations like checkpoints.
It threw gas on the fire, so to speak.
Your crazy conservative friend wanted Obama to repeat Bush Sr.'s mistake.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)ON EDIT: But I will reference the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 if he continues - thank you!!!
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)What the hell...
I must have stopped reading mid-paragraph. You totally did!
Mea culpa
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)and frankly, that is just WAY COOL and Super Impressive.
I think we both win the internet today!
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)"Obama the Dictator" versus "Where's the National Guard, Obama?"
Seriously,
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)If Obama does something, it is automatically bad.
If Obama does nothing, it is automatically bad.
They have enough yammering head commentators in the right wing media, they can always find 3 or four that will fabricate some scathing attack over whichever position Obama takes. 2-3 is all they need to foment reality for the viewers of such bile.
Edit: It's really quite frightening when you think about it.
samsingh
(17,599 posts)otherwise they fester in their own shit
groundloop
(11,519 posts)Many young adults who are still figuring out their political leanings are especially likely to be influenced by the opinions of those around them. If the only opinion they hear is that President Obama and all Democrats are evil snake devils who are ruining the country they'll start to buy into that. I think it's important to offer a calm, sane, unemotional answer to as many right wing smears as possible.
Edit to add: Ask John Kerry how it worked out when he chose to ignore blatant right wing lies.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Anything, ANYTHING, Obama does is spun as extreme or downright evil by the RW media and that spin is taken as gospel by their fans.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Happy Thanksgiving IdaBriggs.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)"Crazy Conservative" and "Friend."
I have several conservatives in my family, and they no longer spew their garbage in front of me. If they weren't "family," I'd have nothing to do with them.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)of the National Guard unless he federalizes it...like for FEMA camp roundups.