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Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 05:08 PM Nov 2014

The racial bias embedded in Darren Wilson’s testimony

WaPo article discusses a less recognized form of racial bias and its part in Wilson killing Brown.

Dehumanization of black people in the United States has a long history, from slavery to the Constitution’s three-fifths clause to aspects of race relations today. Yet another type of dehumanization persists as well -- one in which people see blacks not as subhuman, but as more than human.


But as the case of Michael Brown demonstrates there is a thin line between superhumanization and subhumanization. Both deny black people’s humanity. Therein lies the problem.


In Wilson’s testimony about the incident, he consistently refers to Brown as virtually superhuman. Wilson testified that while he was shooting at Brown, “it looked like he was almost bulking up to run through the shots, like it was making him mad that I'm shooting at him.”


This article also covers the topic quite well. It includes some appalling tweets epitomizing this particular aspect of racism.

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The racial bias embedded in Darren Wilson’s testimony (Original Post) Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2014 OP
he refers to a man he shot five times as 'appeared to be a demon' samsingh Nov 2014 #1
Yep. And I can't help but to think Demon is a king of dogwhistle word in this case. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2014 #4
In the ABC interview he also refer's to Brown as "it." justiceischeap Nov 2014 #2
wow - he indicts himself samsingh Nov 2014 #7
I sure do. Not even Palin was stupid enough to make that mistake. nt justiceischeap Nov 2014 #9
Referring to another human being as "it" is not normal parlance, at least Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2014 #10
Well, I was reading through some of his grand jury testimony just now justiceischeap Nov 2014 #11
This source references it, but are you thinking those who cite this are hearing it wrong? Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2014 #12
the it was referring to his eyes noiretextatique Nov 2014 #14
As I say below, language is tricky to pin down sometimes. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2014 #16
After reading over that again, I have to say that, at least in the case of Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2014 #13
the "grunting, hulking demon" part sort of give it away noiretextatique Nov 2014 #15
Precisely! Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2014 #17
That's how I saw it. justiceischeap Nov 2014 #19
Maybe like this.. busterbrown Nov 2014 #3
+ about a million! Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2014 #6
Did you see where the cops in the azmom Nov 2014 #5
I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2014 #8
about the "i felt like a 5 yo" comment noiretextatique Nov 2014 #18
I know, WTF is that about? I mean, I often try to really understand what is going on with these Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2014 #26
there is no penalty noiretextatique Nov 2014 #28
Truly disturbing. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2014 #29
wilson the pig heaven05 Nov 2014 #20
And the bastards have the nerve to insist that racism is over in this country. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2014 #24
racial bias kardonb Nov 2014 #21
Specifically? Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2014 #27
k and r niyad Nov 2014 #22
Someone on twitter illustrated it: Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #23
OMFG, that is perfect! Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2014 #25

samsingh

(17,599 posts)
1. he refers to a man he shot five times as 'appeared to be a demon'
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 05:16 PM
Nov 2014

i can't imagine anything more racist. so much so that the killed that unarmed man.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
10. Referring to another human being as "it" is not normal parlance, at least
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 05:27 PM
Nov 2014

not among the people I know. You wonder if he was coached to say that, or if it's really how he thought of Brown. Or both, Either way, it's not good.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
11. Well, I was reading through some of his grand jury testimony just now
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 05:33 PM
Nov 2014

'cause I was going to post it but it seems that she may be wrong about how he's using "it." I'll have to see if I can find the clip from last night's show.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
12. This source references it, but are you thinking those who cite this are hearing it wrong?
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 05:39 PM
Nov 2014

4. Wilson refers to Brown as “it” and says that he looks like “a demon.”

“The only way I can describe it, it looks like a demon, that’s how angry he looked. He comes back towards me again with his hands up. At that point I just went like this, I tried to pull the trigger again, click, nothing happened,” Wilson testified.

It’s interesting that Wilson referred to Brown as “a demon” and then acknowledged that Brown had his “hands up.”

5 Not-So-Credible Events in Darren Wilson’s Testimony

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
14. the it was referring to his eyes
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 06:16 PM
Nov 2014
one the many excuses i've read here. wilson's story is as fantastical as zimmerman's. we are supposed to believe that these young men beat these ARMED med so severely that they "feared for their lives" and "had to shot." we are supposed to believe that both of them got of the safety of their cars. and were "attacked." in wilson's case, the supposed attack started in the car. why did they get out the cars? i can think of ONLY one reason, but then again, i am a logical person.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
16. As I say below, language is tricky to pin down sometimes.
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 06:29 PM
Nov 2014

I'd say "it" doesn't refer to "eyes" since the pronoun is singular and "eyes" is plural. The pronoun would be "they" for "eyes." But "it" could refer to "the look in his eyes."

However, whether he was referring to Wilson directly as "it," he was clearly trying to excuse his actions by dehumanizing Brown as a demon with superhuman power. Which, by the way, would also serve to make Wilson even more of a hero for vanquishing that superhuman enemy, for people who buy into that crap.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
13. After reading over that again, I have to say that, at least in the case of
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 06:15 PM
Nov 2014

the excerpt at my link, an argument could be made that he was using "it" more broadly.

"The only way I can describe it ("it" being either the situation or what he saw), it (again, "it" being the image or scene he saw) looks like a demon, that’s how angry he ("he" referring directly to Brown) looked."

It can be complicated and sticky breaking down language this way, and I don't know that I'm clearly explaining what I mean here.

People do talk this way, using "it" frequently and vaguely. Nevertheless, we get a pretty clear image of Wilson dehumanizing Brown, even if he wasn't directly calling him "it".

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
15. the "grunting, hulking demon" part sort of give it away
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 06:22 PM
Nov 2014

so whether he referred to him as "it" or not is moot. and his claim that he "felt like a 5 yo" in the "grunting, hulking demon's" superhuman grasp gave him away too. c'mon...a 5 year old?

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
3. Maybe like this..
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 05:19 PM
Nov 2014

“ Listen Darren you just tell them the guy looked like a crazed Animal running at you and that actually you were mismatched even with your gun.. Guy was like a freaking machine out of a James Cameron Movie”

They’ll believe you trust me...People eat that shit up..

When in fact Darren we all know you’re a little man trying to prove how tough you are by using your gun.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
5. Did you see where the cops in the
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 05:20 PM
Nov 2014

Rodney King trial gave similar characterization? Rodney King was Allso a hulk and a Tasmanian devil.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
18. about the "i felt like a 5 yo" comment
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 06:49 PM
Nov 2014

Wilson is 28 years old, Brown was 18. Zimmerman was also 28, Martin was 17. yet both of these grown men juxtaposed themselves as weaker and younger than the teenagers. Wilson morped into a 5 year old. Zimmerman suddenly morphed from a badass cop wannabe with a gun, to a passive victim of Martin's supposed assault, crying for help, as if HE was 17 years old. yet another way these men murdered their victims.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
26. I know, WTF is that about? I mean, I often try to really understand what is going on with these
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 10:08 PM
Nov 2014

massively bigoted people and I just really can't seem to figure out how it works. I mean, can you imagine Wilson ever saying he felt a like a 5 year-old except in an attempt to exonerate himself? And if he were in fact truly fearful for his life, why not call and wait for backup?

Are these guys trained to look for opportunities to shoot minorities (and I include mentally ill and indigent people as minorities the cops seem to feel justified in exterminating)? I mean, why not ask yourself, "What can I do to avoid shooting this guy", instead of, "Can I legally shoot this guy?" Do they get any training that tells them how to deal with dangerous situations without escalating them to more dangerous or deadly situations? This police state shit is getting real. And it's so fked up.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
28. there is no penalty
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:18 AM
Nov 2014

for the heinous acts they commit. half the country cheers each vile and disgusting murder of innocents, as long they have the correct skin color. who else, in this society, besides the police, can kill people with impunity, and rarely are held accountable. it is the perfect, perverse storm.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
20. wilson the pig
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 07:44 PM
Nov 2014

is amerikkkan racism personified by generations of people like him who have kept hate and ignorance alive and well in amerikkka. This murderer needs to go to prison. But the DA, GJ said "good shoot", so amerikkans of all levels of society get to enjoy their drunken revelry at the exoneration of wilsonthepig. Enjoy.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
24. And the bastards have the nerve to insist that racism is over in this country.
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 09:58 PM
Nov 2014

After all, we have a black president! I'd like to see FoxNoose do an on-air segment on--what's it called, that White Supremacist website--Stormfront and try to sell that line. The Fox crew are probably all members in good standing.

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