I wonder how African American members of DU feel about the following post

[CreekDog]

It's about them and it's pretty abhorrent.

http://www.discussionist.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=79932

And no, a jury has not hidden it.

http://www.discussionist.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=79951

[cyberswede]

1. The place is a sewer. nt

[freshwest]

40. +1

[City Lights]

67. +2. nt

[roguevalley]

98. it's rather a test for the owners isn't it? I would say

They lost. Money is a terrible taskmaster. I hope they enjoyed selling their souls. It explains to me why several self admitted rapists weren't kicked off here a while back. You have to disagree to do it.

Ban me if you must but that list puts freeper ville to shame. That thread is vile.

[AverageJoe90]

104. Your post was alerted on, btw.

On Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:18 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

it's rather a test for the owners isn't it? I would say
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5879874

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Personal attack against admin - plus some bullshit.
dissruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, and otherwise inappropriate

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:26 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I can understand the frustration, but saying that Skinner and co. "sold their souls" is going a little too far, I feel.

And, by the way, though I'm not exactly all that trusting of CreekDog, given that sometimes he'll post these kinds of OPs for a not-so-honest agenda, that DI post he linked to isn't exactly savoury....though it seems that at least one person on the jury(#1) actually left it alone just so people could see the B.S.; not something I agree with, but it's not the same as outright approval.....unlike what #2 and #3 did(shame on you two!).

So yeah, there we have it.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Admins can take it. It's about discussionist, not DU.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is yet another observation on discussionist which has already had similar observations.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

-----

[roguevalley]

113. thanks, a-joe90. I figured as much. I thank the jurors

Who got my point. I would like an alternate explanation to mine from that one person for allowing this. I am all ears.

[LawDeeDah]

2. It's sick.

You can have all the Statements of Purposes or Terms against racism, sexism, homophobia, etc., but if snake bellied fucks are jurors, all that means nothing. Makes no fucking sense to me at all except for ca-ching. I don't think even Supply Side Jesus would approve.

[lpbk2713]

3. I visited Discussionist a few times when it was new.

I never did sign up. I had no desire to engage in a dialogue with someone on the
level of PeeWee Herman so I never went back. I don't think I'm missing much.

[NOLALady]

4. What a cesspool!

I couldn't get past the first few posts.

If these are our friends, we are in deep trouble.

[CreekDog]

6. well, I'm pretty sure the OP and most of those jurors are not our friends

I imagine that OP and that a jury could only muster one vote to hide it troubles the owners of Discussionist.

It would be nice to be sure of that.

[hifiguy]

134. Nor could I.

Looked in a few months back and the only good thing I can say about it is that it seems to have drawn most of the trolls away from DU.

[valerief]

5. Eeyew. I won't even click on discussionist links Blech! Ptooey! nt

[nc4bo]

7. Are they as afraid of black folks as much Wienie Wilson? nt

[bravenak]

8. I stay away from there.

It's chock full of bigots.

[helpmetohelpyou]

9. Where did you just send me

[shenmue]

10. Space

[helpmetohelpyou]

12. I thought I was clicking to a thread on DU?

[shenmue]

13. Nope

It is DI, Discussionist, where people suck.

[helpmetohelpyou]

16. I don't want any part of that site

[shenmue]

19. Me neither

They're weird.

[CreekDog]

15. Why would you think that?

come on now.

[helpmetohelpyou]

18. I guess I just assumed you were talking about a post here in a thread

because you were asking African American members on DU how they felt

I didn't read the link which is my fault , I just clicked on it

[cyberswede]

21. I did the same thing

The OP wasn't particularly clear

[CreekDog]

111. i did try to warn that the content was pretty abhorrent

[Doctor_J]

101. maybe the op gets paid for getting duers to click on di

[Warpy]

11. Please leave the garbage in the garbage can.

Nobody wants to smell it here.

Thanks.

[Agschmid]

22. Yup.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

14. Good to see Juror #4 still nails it over there like they do over here.

Gotta love that Juror #4

[CreekDog]

17. I do. Sadly, that was the only vote to hide.

[woolldog]

20. Too often as DUers we try to hide offensive ideas instead of confronting them head on.

I think we need to confront ideas like those and point out why they're wrong instead of covering up our ears and singing lalalalalalala.

[cyberswede]

23. I don't recommend going there, though

You'll never get rid of the smell.

[woolldog]

27. I don't.

I don't find the site interesting. I have other politically mixed boards I post on. The only time I go there is when links to it are posted here.

[CreekDog]

28. you just said we need to read that stuff instead of covering our ears

how about not saying something that just contradicted your previous post, especially when you're previous post was lecturing us?

[woolldog]

33. I didn't say you had to read it. You don't have to frequent that site for all I care

Just don't agree with the impulse to hide everything. I don't go there so I won't be the one to post any kind of response, but if it were a board I frequented I wouldnt try to hide the offending opinion but would post a rebuttal.

[CreekDog]

32. how about you make up your own mind on the topic before lecturing me?

as soon what you tell us to do, matches what you do yourself, let us know, it will be a lot more useful at that point.

at this point you're telling us to read it and that you don't read there yourself.

[woolldog]

41. where did I tell you to read it?

I didn't.

What I am saying is that our first impulse shouldn't be to hide posts we disagree with. Ifyou choose to read posts there and disagree with some, confront them instead of trying to hide them.

[Gothmog]

122. A good number of posters on DI confronted the stupidity of this post

The best way to fight ignorance and stupidity is to confront it

[seabeyond]

24. ya. that was administrations attempt, and look, thread after racist, misogynist thread.

and those people feeding off it.

you want that to be DU?

no thanks. then du is no more than the garbage in and out as most of the rest of the net.

[CreekDog]

25. Nobody is getting confronted over there

You're lecturing us to read it and you clearly haven't.

If you had ready it you'd see it's just hate speech, doing nobody not one bit of good.

And driving off minority posters there.

And money is being made off of it.

[Gothmog]

123. The OP was called out on that thread

There are a good number of posts on that thread calling out the OP

[CreekDog]

128. At that time, the OP was not being confronted or called out

I actually think that the OP got confronted mostly after I posted this thread.

[Gothmog]

129. That may be true

Since this thread, a number posters have confronted the OP on that thread.a

Remember that it is a holiday and I personally do not pay as much attention to the News forum as the politics forum.

The best way to deal with stupidity and ignorance is to confront these forces.

[CreekDog]

130. you're against calling attention to it?

[Gothmog]

131. Not at all

I am glad that you did call attention to it. I did not see this OP and has since posted on it. I tend to focus on the politics forum and not pay as much attention to the News forum.

I am little tired of people attacking discussionist. Yes, the conservatives over there are idiots and are very very stupid. I post over there because I like confronting this stupidity and ignorance. In Texas, I see the same ignorance in real life and so I am not surprised by the stupid posts of the conservatives on Discussionist and enjoying confronting such posts. Disussionist is not for everybody but I enjoy playing over there. I enjoy confronting the conservative idiots and fools over on discussionist.

[CreekDog]

132. Thanks for the reply and clarification

I also think it should be confronted and there are a variety of ways to do it, including confronting it directly, which it should be, and calling attention to it as well.

[Gothmog]

136. No problem

I have my own way of confronting stupid people such as the conservative idiots on discussionist. You should come over and play with the conservative idiots. They are fun to play with.

[seabeyond]

26. btw. we are a pretty informed, educated lot here on du. we are well aware what they are

saying and no one has fingers in the ear la la'in'.

personally, i live in a community that is like 90% repug. i am well aware what they are saying and have spent more time than i should have, trying to educate.

when one decides they are right.... cause god says, who wants to go round and round.

[woolldog]

29. I didn't say we weren't educated informed etc

I just don't get the need to hide posts, especially on that site, which was conceived as a free for all type place

[seabeyond]

35. accusing us of sticking fingers in ear and la la 'ing is pretty insulting. ya think? kinda what i

would call uneducated and uninformed.

that site was not created to be a forum of hate. hence the hides for civility. there can be disagreement, without hatefilled speech toward gays, women and blacks. but. it has become pure hate. that is what your lack of hides gets you.

[woolldog]

36. well why are you still going there.

Why do you care? I honestly never think of even visiting that site. Only time I do is when links are posted here.

[CreekDog]

38. why are you telling us to read crap like that while saying you don't read it yourself?

hypocrisy.

care to give any advice that you would actually follow yourself?

[seabeyond]

39. i do not go there, but was directed on this OP. why does it matter? cause the asses come over here

repeatedly spewing their garbage, that is suppose to stay on DI. it has merely allowed a revolving door here on du. because the site of hate is connected to du. because the same members here, then go over to DI and spew hate, only to come back here and create flame bait threads.

[freshwest]

43. And they definitely do come here. That thread title was a spin off of a DU thread. Wonder what their

screen name is at DU?

[CreekDog]

59. thanks for pointing that out, I didn't realize that

[noiretextatique]

90. i know a few on those names

working on it.

[CreekDog]

30. woolldog is saying that we need to read it instead of avoiding it

but the very next post, says himself that he doesn't read the site.

if we were to follow his advice, we'd read that thread.

if we were to follow his actions, we'd tell others to read it, but not read it ourselves.

whatever.

[freshwest]

44. Well, I read it all (fast reader, no prob) and sorry I did. SSDD.

Their material is old hate radio speech and they can't even repeat it well. They lose something in every rewrite.

I know sites where cons and libs do argue, and for goodness sake they aren't as lame as that bunch at DI. That is concentrated RW dumbassery and they can't even keep their line or their spelling right.

As far what blacks think, if they read this thread and then followed the link, it's just SSDD. I doubt if any but the youngest members haven't heard that shinola most of their lives.

Hope you enjoy whatever you have planned to do tomorrow, Creek Dog.

[Blue_Tires]

47. There's confronting ideas, and then there's

burning hundreds of posts flinging fecal matter with the willfully ignorant and circular logic trolls...

You lay out organized, reasoned arguments, you do extensive web searching for links to fortify your points, and before you know it you've burned 3-4 hours of your day crafting the best multi-page argument you can possibly make just for some asshole to flippantly dismiss it in one sentence without even reading it...And then you're that much angrier while that fuckwad on the other end is laughing his ass off...

And nowadays I say fuck that shit...My life is too short, and my blood pressure is too high...If you get your jollies in hundred-post flamewars forever re-hashing the same bullshit, then that's on you...

[freshwest]

51. Blue Tires, I've come to the same conclusion for all the same reasons. n/t

[Blue_Tires]

103. The sad irony is the "You hivemind liberals can't handle debate"

talking point has completely infected discourse on a national level, which is why we still have high-profile top pundits to this day "debating" Obama's birthplace, evolution, climate change, whether all GLBT folks are going to hell or just purgatory, if all muslims are inherently evil or just fanatical savages, etc. etc. etc...

[U4ikLefty]

70. +1 I learned that lesson during my involvement in Occupy here on DU.

Some will never listen to reason & it's a waste of time to try to refute stupidity.

You probably know the saying: "Never wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

[crim son]

71. Exactly.

For YEARS I went through the effort of providing counter-arguments loaded with facts and official data, impassioned appeals to reason and examples that touched their own lives, to no avail. These people are incapable of understanding, and what they don't understand they simply reject. They are not like us; I sometimes imagine they are another species entirely. Furthermore, when I approached the respectfully I might initially receive the same treatment but inevitably they lost patience with having to think and lashed out. I always ended up feeling sick to my stomach to be reminded that I share the planet with such creatures. This past year I weaned myself from the notion that their ignorance was my problem and I'm done with it. Let them go ahead and "secdee" and be done with it. I'll be glad to never have to interact with them again.

[Number23]

109. You nailed it

Hell, 2/3 of the black folks on DU don't even post here anymore and many of the ones that do refuse to engage for the same reasons. Why the hell would we go to Discussionist and be bombarded with even MORE clueless, entitled stupidity?

DU is nirvana compared to that place.

[TBF]

60. We confront these ideas every fucking minute

of every day in this country. Not only is Discussionist a cesspool, but so is the greater society that puts up with constant oppression, bullying, and control via class.

Your apologist attitude is disgusting.

[Gormy Cuss]

62. DUers want to hide "offensive ideas" here because this isn't supposed to be all-inclusive discussion

That said, I don't think anyone here is covering up their ears and singing nonsense. They're just not interested in changing the tone of the site to accommodate conservatives, libertarians, and other political troglodytes.

[Jackpine Radical]

112. I mostly agree with you

and generally vote to leave things that at least contain debatable ideas, reserving my hide votes for posts with little redeeming virtue. However, I don't see the point of dragging offensive crap from somewhere else to be further processed here. Reminds me of the cat bringing home partial rodents from God knows where and then looking at you like they did something wonderful.

[SweetieD]

31. I'm Black and didn't click. Why even bother with this garbage?

tbh I am of the impression that most white folks are racist, unless I find out otherwise. So nothing surprises me. If I want to see racist comments about blacks, I can go anywhere on the internet Yahoo, Youtube, Twitter, Reddit, any News site comments section. So why should I purposefully click some site I never heard of to see a racist discussion?

[CreekDog]

34. who owns Yahoo, Twitter, Reddit, etc.?

[MadDAsHell]

37. I'll bite. As a black male I appreciate someone contributing to...

,with virtually no filter, this mythic "open and honest discussion about race" that everyone claims they want to have.

Do I feel this individual is overgeneralizing? Yes.

Do I feel this individual is probably not a minority and thus is making assumptions about African Americans without any firsthand experience to back it up? Yes.

But do I also feel that we as liberals are pretty disingenuous about our desire to have an open and honest discussion about race, as most of us clearly have no plans to let anyone speak their honest opinion on race if it offends us, we suspect it may offend others, or we don't like what the statistics are hinting at? ABSOLUTELY.

As evidenced by the OP's rhetoric, there sometimes seems to be a blind assumption on DU that every African-American is anti-police, that every African-American feels the world is against them, and that every African-American wants white people to feel sorry for them. That's the real offense.

[noiretextatique]

92. dude: if you FIRST have to convince someone you don't have a tail

Last edited Thu Nov 27, 2014, 05:03 PM - Edit history (1)

i doubt you will get that "open and honest" discussion from him. this is an idiot racist who thinks he's superior to black people...he is beyond conversation.

[Starry Messenger]

42. Discussionist: the internet version of fracking.

Hope it was worth it to the owners here.

[LawDeeDah]

53. I wonder how many pieces of silver are made from that pile of offal place.

[Starry Messenger]

61. Judging from their Alexa stats?

Doesn't look like it was worth it, to me.

[CreekDog]

64. because it's turned out to be hostile to their most loyal customers

[Starry Messenger]

69. Interesting business model, to say the least.

[savalez]

91. The DU framework was just to good for mere Democrats.

Classic sell out. There is no other way of putting it.

[R B Garr]

45. It looks like they've sent all their phony cops over here.

They are running around insulting everyone who thinks Michael Brown is not responsible for his own death, anyone who thinks a cop's ego is more important than a young man's life, and anyone who thinks the Grand Jury was a complete farce.

That link is just horrible. Brown was a teenager. It's a good thing that poster doesn't live near a high school because there are hordes of teenagers near those places, and teenagers can be very self-absorbed and surly. Don't blame that on racial biases.

[Blue_Tires]

46. I don't do Discussionist, so I'm not even clicking...

Since the air has been (slightly) cleaner on DU, I just assumed it was because the trolls and sockpuppet accounts all migrated to a new playground...

[blkmusclmachine]

48. Discussionist is trash. Avoid.

[nc4bo]

49. I am a black woman and after scrolling through that disgusting site

That these people could use a lesson in empathy.

How do you teach empathy when they refuse to get past their fear of the other.

Fear breeds hatred, prejudice, bigotry. It blinds them. Consumes them to the point they have lost their own humanity. They are the lost ones.

They must have their own reckoning with their own souls.

Anything we say or do to open their eyes is meaningless and futile.

I think this is true with many of life's lessons.

[Oktober]

50. DU seems to be the discussionist meta

[newfie11]

52. And they wonder why Black Folks riot!

It's shit heads like those they face everyday..

[cyberswede]

56. Nah - they just riot when their team wins some sporting event

Tick tock...

[YarnAddict]

57. Discussionist

is comprised of RWNJs who have lurked here for a decade or more, and many of whom frequent websites dedicated to nothing other than making fun of DU posts.

Having a forum where left and right can debate freely and have mutually respectful intelligent discussions of topics we disagree on is/was a great idea. Don't know how you can do that without letting in the loonies who just want to stir the pot, or "poke the hive," as many of THEM put it . . .

[Ms. Toad]

117. There are an equal number of folks on the left goingto Discussionist for the same reasons

- just targeting the right.

That kind of behavior doesn't make for healthy discussions - regardless of which direction the hive poking comes from. If juries would just hide the hive poking activity, there might actually be (and were for a while) good cross-the-political-spectrum conversations.

[Gothmog]

125. There are a number of liberals over there confronting the conservatives

The best way to fight ignorance and stupidity is to confront it

[99Forever]

58. Standard mentality for that cesspool.

Why would any decent human being spend one second there?

[alcibiades_mystery]

63. I have to say, I'm really disappointed in the Administrators

That is horrific.

That site is essentially a place for hate speech.

They get paid for this shit?

[LawDeeDah]

68. and as it's an 'admin is hands off' site,

the jury decides, up to the jury!, the jurors decided this was okay, don't talk to me, it's the jurors!

I just wonder where the line is drawn - when will admin step in. Maybe some pedophile has to post there and the jury lets it stand? How about someone threatening rape or violence to another member and the jury lets it stand?

Where is the line when the Terms say one thing and the jurors too often go in the complete opposite direction and it is the jurors who decide what the standards are.

It will only get worse. It's just a damn shame that admin made a nice looking layout for those Freepers. Their site is just awful in every sense of the word, now they have a nice place to shit in, compliments of democrats.

[Zorra]

65. I still feel unclean when I remember my one and only very brief visit there. nt

[yuiyoshida]

66. This statement is almost laughable

"If the behavior of Black Americans would imitate let say Asian Americans or other minorities that have integrated into the main stream of american life, they would reap all the rewards this society has to offer. "

I would like to know what rewards he is talking about....バカ野郎

[bravenak]

72. Preferred minority status.

The ability to be used as a cudgel against others while they forget that they hate Asians too. It's evil.

[yuiyoshida]

74. That it is...

Happy T-Day, Bravenak!

[bravenak]

75. Happy Turkey day!!!

[Rex]

79. He doesn't know, talking out the ass is a specialty of the GOP party.

I go over to DI to torture the idiots that think they make good points about the GOP. I love destroying their narrative and then mocking them in their own thread.

I think the admins made DI, to lure away the trolls from DU and to give us a place to kick their asses from one side to the other. It is fun kicking trolls around on DI.

[yuiyoshida]

81. Yup..

I never go there, if I went there, I am sure I would end up in tears. Happy T-day Rex!

[Rex]

82. Happy Thanksgiving to you too yuiyoshida!

My skin is about as thick as a T-Rex's. Plus I just cannot help myself, they are so stupid and need to be put in their place. I admit it, I have a visceral hatred for the GOP. Goes all the way back to Reagan. So if they have the guts to post on DI, I am going to let them have it.


Turkey time is at 2pm! I can hardly wait!

[yuiyoshida]

84. Yummy...

I am having duck!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025878774

[Rex]

85. Oh man, that peking duck looks mouth watering delicious!

Never had it before, but friends that have say it is delectable! Yummm....

[yuiyoshida]

86. You should try it..

You will be amazed!

[Rex]

87. If I get a chance to order it I will.

I'm always an easy sell on General Tso's chicken. Need to try something new!

[heaven05]

106. yeah they kick the shit out

of people, the jury piles on and if there is an equal retort against RWNJ theirs is always a jury that will put you in the trash bin for offending the racist offenders. Never fails there. But maybe it's as someone said, it keeps the nut jobs happy with a site where they can eat and shit in the same place and they can leave decent people alone. They are cave dwelling troglodytes over there. Never come out the cave except to hunt people to ..............

[noiretextatique]

94. just goes to show you: the most bone-ignorant white racist asshole

thinks he can lecture black people about...anything. and, clearly he has no idea what he's talking about regarding asians either.

[Savannahmann]

73. Why would anyone go to Discussionist in the first place?

Seriously, why?

[CreekDog]

76. lots of reasons

you can't think of one?

[Savannahmann]

83. Nope. Not one reason.

If I want to read RW tripe, there are plenty of sites to do it. If I want to debate a RW type, then there are places to do it right near me. Places where the conversation can be overheard and those who are leaning one way, but undecided, can be convinced.

Discussionist is a sewer, where the biggest turds rule. I would rather endure a root canal without anesthesia than visit the site for even a moment. You on the other hand, may enjoy it there.

[Doctor_J]

97. to insinuate right wing propaganda here. why not post stormfront excerpts here?

I guess the op might just be attention starved.

[Gothmog]

126. Living in Texas, I have a high tolerance for stupidity

I enjoy confronting that discussing issues with the conservatives on that board because they can not deal with the concept that people disagree with their positions.

[Jackpine Radical]

77. Why are you dragging in posts from Disgustingness?

If I wanted to read that crap, I'd go there. Instead, I choose not to give it attention. So I didn't click on those links; I can guess enough from the comments of others.

[Doctor_J]

96. some duers are shit stirring right wing trolls. They post from Fox and every right wing toilet

just to make sure that their crap infests what is supposed to be a democratic site. Why not just post something from stormfront?

[LawDeeDah]

99. Are you saying that Skinner and Co. opened up a site like Stormfront?

I must have misunderstood.

[CreekDog]

102. No, I post against that stuff

Are you asking us to not talk about racism?

Pass.

[Jackpine Radical]

105. And some of us fart clockwise

into tornados in order to slow them down.

[CreekDog]

107. so you're saying if we talk about racism, it will do nothing to stop the tornado of racism

so we shouldn't talk about it, or is it simply pointless to talk about it?

[Jackpine Radical]

108. Depends on where you talk about it.

Klan meetings & Disgustingness are two of the places where wouldn't waste my time.

[CreekDog]

110. Actually you have a point

the idea that linking to certain Discussionist threads can be compared to linking to Klan meetings is a troubling, but fair point.

[Kingofalldems]

78. There is a DUer who posts similar stuff and then self deletes.

Although he posts written articles from RW rags that say pretty much the same thing.

[morningfog]

116. There are also a few DUers who would clearly agree but have enough sense to

keep their opinions oblique enough to stay here.

[vi5]

80. The fact that that place is somehow affiliated with DU

Is abhorrent in and of itself.

That is the "third way" mentality in action.

[LawDeeDah]

93. It would have been a better idea to have a more left leaning site

than DU.
Somewhere where if someone called the President a Piece of Shit - that would not stand.

I see the President gets ripped and shredded apart here, why not have a site that goes to the left instead of the bile and puke of the rightwing. I would be happy glad with joy joy to donate to something like that.

[heaven05]

88. The scum on discussionist are self explanatory

as are the statements and jury exoneration of said statement typical of that site. I don't worry about those type of people. They are hate filled and virulently psychopathological. They are sick, sick people for whom there is no help on this planet. They don't hurt me, because I "know my place", it's as part of the human race sans them......

[LawDeeDah]

95. Absolutely true there is no help for them.

I learned that many years ago on discussion boards - I wasted some time trying but it was a lesson well learned and just hearing that 'if you talk nice maybe you can teach them' makes me laugh my buttocks off. I can't think anyone who has lived more than 14 years or so would think there was any chance of normal discussion with these freaks from hell.

[noiretextatique]

89. racist tripe eom

[Gormy Cuss]

100. Please stop linking to DI.

I can't help myself, I click to read the post, then look around and see the RW bile, the posts calling out DUers, and other useless wastes of bandwidth.

[MattBaggins]

114. You think anything will be done about it?

We have had absentee landlords for years right here at DU. They have a new cash cow and couldn't care less how ugly it gets over there.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

115. It's all good. As long as someone makes a buck out of it. It's not like

right wingers and bigots have anywhere else on the Web where they can congregate and exchange verbal diarrhea.

[TheKentuckian]

118. I think it is yet more ignorant, stupid, and racist bullshit on the internet

It does make me ponder if there is some weird deep seeded distrust grown all the way into fear that black and brown folks cannot be assimilated to our scammy ass secular religion of an economic system and you are on your own culture that actually drives the hate to the fever it is.

[akbacchus_BC]

119. Why are you promoting the idiots point of view on DU?

Are you looking for attention or how people of colour will react? Give it up already! Us people of colour know whom we are, we do not need thrash to define us!

[CreekDog]

120. are you asking me to not talk about racist statements?

are you really?

think it will go away if we all refuse to talk about those statements?

good luck with that.

[Doctor_J]

133. are you going to post a link to every racist statement on the internet?

If so, why, and when do you expect to be done? If not, why these particular ones?

Honest answer: do you get paid to post links to right wing sites?

[Gothmog]

121. A number of posters attacked the premise of this thread

The best way to fight ignorance and stupidity is to confront the ignorance and stupidity

[LawDeeDah]

124. Have you had any converts?

I would like to hear an example of how confronting the ignorance and stupidity of stormfronters, freepers and/or cave dwellers worked out for those who think diving into a cesspool is somehow working for the common good.

[Gothmog]

127. I have forced some conservative to back down on issues

The conservatives can not deal with facts. When challenged with facts, it is fun watching the conservatives run away from their own threads or make really stupid posts that are fun to laugh at.

Some conservatives over there are amazed to find that there is another other side to an issue and that not everyone agrees with their positions

[SomethingFishy]

135. This thread reminds me of when my wife tries some new food,

that she hates, she makes one of those awful faces and goes "this is terrible... Try It!". Try it? Yeah I don't think so.

[Gothmog]

137. The OP on the Discussionist is getting a little defensive

People are not letting the OP of that thread on Discussionist forget that the premise of this thread is stupid