Ferguson Prosecutor Indicted Black Cop For Hitting Man's Hand

[noiretextatique]

In July of this year, Bob McCulloch charged a black police officer, Dawon Gore, 44, with second degree assault for "striking a MetroLink passenger on the hand with his expandable baton," according to a CBS Local news report.
Gore, a 13-year veteran of the force, was placed in jail on a $3,500 cash-only bond.

Bob McCulloch is the St. Louis County prosecutor who decided to put the decision of whether or not to indict Officer Darren Wilson for the murder of 18-year-old Michael Brown to a grand jury — a decision his spokesman acknowledged was strange, as in cases like these, the prosecutor will usually ask a jury to endorse a charge, rather than leaving it entirely up to them.

I'm not going to pretend that I'm a legal expert and that I in any way have a full understanding of the ins and outs of these two cases, but the side-by-side comparison of the charges these two officers faced seems to speak for itself.

Darren Wilson, a white man, fires multiple shots at an unarmed 18-year-old black teen, killing him, and receives no charges. Dawon Gore, a black man, hits a 24-year-old subway passenger with his baton, and is charged with second degree assault, placed in jail on a $3,500 cash-only bond and is suspended with no pay. If convicted, Gore faces up to seven years in prison.
http://ie.askmen.com/news/power_money/ferguson-prosecutor-indicted-black-cop-for-hitting-man-s-hand.html

it seems the Ferguson DA CAN indict a cop. when he wants to. i am sure the fact that the ONE cop he indicted is black is just another fucking coincidence. sure.

[giftedgirl77]

1. To twitter it goes...

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

2. UN FUCKING BELIEVABLE GOD DAMMIT GOD DAMMIT GOD DAMMIT

[nc4bo]

3. WTF is spot on.

Fucking racist, bigotted fucks.

So tired of this bullshit.

Something has to give, it is about race. It is about class. It is about so many of us being in denial because bad things always happen to THOSE PEOPE, until of course it happens to them.

Just

[Kalidurga]

4. Clearly we need a national initiative to put some Democrats in Missouri

and I don't mean the kind that wear hoods in their spare time.

[Rex]

6. Sadly both Bob and the governor are democrats.

Seem more like Dixiecrats imo.

[Kalidurga]

9. No those guys wear hoods

They gots to go.

[Rex]

5. But but but...I was promised by a DU local in the area that Bob is a stand up guy!

Looks like my suspicions were correct and the other DUer has no idea what they are talking about.

Bob'a just a flat our racist...what a shock!

[noiretextatique]

8. as for the people who keep admonishing people for not voting

difference does it make when the choice is jim crow bad or jim crow worse?

[Rex]

16. NO kidding!

I am seriously beginning to wonder if the PTB give a fuck or just have no idea how bad it is...but how can they not know?

The DA is just another Good Ol Boy and I am really starting to wonder how many of the white people in charge, run around with hoods on and burn crosses.

I think it is very possible for the KKK/Aryan Nation to infiltrate and poison a PDs well water.

[HappyMe]

7. What an asshole this McCulloch guy is.

[noiretextatique]

10. the black cops talks about racism in the PD

and the DA's office. i am certain this is probably a "payback" prosecution.

[HappyMe]

13. That seems to be the case.

What a hideous fucking mess of racism and corruption!

[helpmetohelpyou]

11. One story can't be compared to the other

There are no details why this cop was charged with assault for using his baton.
Did the cop just get pissed off because the person mouthed off to him and just decided
to crack him over the hand with his baton?


To try and make this racial is way off the mark on this cop

[SoCalMusicLover]

17. Thanks For Your Opinion

And welcome to DU.

[noiretextatique]

18. YES...the stories can be compared

the DA managed to indict ONE cop, who just so happens to be black. i call BULLSHIT.

[lapfog_1]

31. Just so you understand the irony here

The most likely explanation for Darren Wilson's "overkill" response was that he got pissed off because Mike Brown "mouthed off" to him when he rolled up on the teens walking in the middle of a quiet residential street and told them to walk on the sidewalk.

[helpmetohelpyou]

33. I'm not disagreeing about what should have happened to Wilson but

comparing one case to other doesn't work .

[noiretextatique]

36. it doesn't work for you, or many white americans

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who don't see the disparate treatment of WHITE COPS by this DA. he managed to indict a black cop, but he purposely went out of his way NOT TO INDICT Wilson. is THAT? there is ALWAYS an excuse, and any one will do. this DA does not seem to grasp that it's the PERCEPTION of inaction on the Wilson case is as important as the PERCEPTION of his action on this case. there is no black person on earth who will believe that this is somehow "fair," when he failed to indict Wilson for a much more egregious crime. and that fact that he do not even try just furthers the perception of bias and unfairness.

[JDPriestly]

42. "Did the cop just get pissed off because the person mouthed off to him"?

That is precisely the issue in the Brown/Wilson case.

Did Wilson get angry because Brown said something to him that Wilson did not like and then, already angry, back up his car right next to Brown and Johnson and open the car door so as to hit Brown?

Had Wilson already used excessive force when he opened the car door so as to hit Brown before the alleged struggle and subsequent shooting took place?

If a trial takes place, we may find out, depending on how good the prosecutor is that tries the case.

[helpmetohelpyou]

47. Yes , with your question marks you also included it gave him an out without charging him

and also the DNA of Browns blood inside the car .

I'm not disagreeing with you and I want to see Wilson charged but this case in the OP
he had no choice in charging the officer . It's a clear cut case of assault where the cop doesn't dispute
he used his baton when he (the officer knows he shouldn't have and broke the law)






"Did Wilson get angry because Brown said something to him that Wilson did not like and then, already angry, back up his car right next to Brown and Johnson and open the car door so as to hit Brown? "

"Had Wilson already used excessive force when he opened the car door so as to hit Brown before the alleged struggle and subsequent shooting took place?"

[JDPriestly]

53. But was Wilson's backing up the equivalent of the cop charging the victim?

Was Wilson's hitting the car door against Brown an assault?

And precisely how did Brown's DNA get into the car?

I'm not saying that Wilson would be found guilty. I am saying that there may well have been probable cause to charge Wilson and let the jury decide on his guilt or innocence.

[helpmetohelpyou]

56. McCulloch history is not charging cops so why should this be any different

In the OP some of you trying to make it a racial issue where Oh my see!

McCulloch charged the black cop only !! Like I said in this case the cop admitted his guilt and that's why he charged him.

[malokvale77]

64. Did Wilson deny killing Michael Brown?

You are really stretching, and I will stop there.

[brush]

55. Take off the blind fold or go back to freeperville

He indicts a black cop for rapping someone's knuckles but fails to indict a white cop for killing an unarmed black teen (this cop knew also he had broken the law when he chased Brown and killed hi, He should have stayed in his car and called for back-up. After all, where was a 300lb, 6'5" black teen going to hide for long).

It's not rocket science to see the blatant bias in the comparison of the two cases.

[helpmetohelpyou]

57. Don't let emotion take over your critical thinking skills

on why this cop was charged by McCulloch

[brush]

59. Emotion my a_ _

You need to get some human compassion and stop apologizing for obvious bias by a prosecutor whose is plainly still getting even with black men because his father was killed by a black man years ago.

Maybe you didn't know that part of his back story.

He needed to recuse himself from the case because of that very thing, and the fact that he works with cops everyday.

How could we expect him to aggressively seek an indictment against a cop who he works with?

[helpmetohelpyou]

62. I read his father was killed

but the bias you seem to be saying is racial on his part and I don't agree with it.
His bias is defending cops unless he's backed into a corner like with the OP where he admitted he did it.

McCulloch wanted to be cop and places cops above everyone else including his own staff.
He will go to the ends of the earth trying to figure out an angle and reason where he wouldn't have to charge a cop
unless it's like the reason in the OP

McCulloch doesn't see Black or White when it's a cop , he only sees blue

That is the reason he shouldn't be in the position he holds , it's not a racial one

[noiretextatique]

66. see my bingo post

it works!

[Iggo]

46. They absolutely can be compared.

Compare =/= Equate

And yes, it's right on the mark.

Welcome to DU!

[Bradical79]

48. Sure you can

You can compare them in the context of the DA's decision making, which I think is the point.

[helpmetohelpyou]

51. It's not even close

In the OP the cop has admitted to assaulting the person and is offering
no defense to it. Chances are McCulloch is going to offer the cop a plea
and knock it down to a lesser offense which is bullshit.

The cop should do time for this assault .

[GoneFishin]

61. Just stop making excuses for McCulloch. You are transparent.

[noiretextatique]

67. see the bingo post

works perfeclly for you

[yardwork]

58. It certainly raises a lot of questions.

[morningfog]

65. Don't deny blatant racism. It makes you look

Suspicious.

[madville]

12. After reading the story

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-county-cop-charged-with-assaulting-man-with-baton/article_267e68a7-8496-5663-8c81-a951172a904f.html?mobile_touch=true

It sounds like a legitimate charge and a jury can decide. If I was him I would try to plea it down to a misdemeanor now and move on because it sounds pretty bad.

Darren Wilson should have gone to trial as well.

[noiretextatique]

14. i don't dispute that...this is more about the repeated claims

that this DA never indicts cops. BUT he did manage to indict this one. and, the victim is still alive.

[helpmetohelpyou]

15. After reading that he deserves to be charged with assault

[Rex]

19. Yes and Wilson deserved to be charge with at least manslaughter. Yet no trial will ever be held.

The DA seems to react different when it is skin color. Why?

[noiretextatique]

22. it's so fng predictable

it's not even surprising anymore. black cop GUILTY of assault, WHITE cop JUSTIFIED for murder

[Rex]

23. DA had 5 indictments of cops in his career and he decided not to charge any of the white cops.

GEE...sounds like the DA is trying out for Grand Wizard or Dragon.

[noiretextatique]

24. the only ONE charged

[Rex]

26. YEP. So when you see someone in here that ONLY talks about the legitimacy of the charges

and NOT the actual point of the thread...well...things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmm....

[noiretextatique]

38. authoritarian apologists

or "colorblind," of the variety that refuses to see. and then there are the outright racists.

[helpmetohelpyou]

28. Because he protects his cops

and if Wilson was a black cop in the Exact same circumstance he would have acted the same.

This instance there is absolutely no circumstance where he could not charge the cop whether he was white or black


He pulled out his baton and decided to crack a guy during an oral argument
that the officer him self doesn't dispute.

Fuck that cop and I hope he does time for it

[Rex]

29. Then why didn't he protect this cop? Wilson clearly shot and killed Brown

after not being in danger. That was deserving of a trial, every expert on the topic has said so.

So you are saying THAT is not worse than breaking someones hand?

Riiigggghttt....goodluck with that line of reasoning.

[helpmetohelpyou]

30. Reading is fundamental

Or you can keep asking the same already answered question all night

[Rex]

32. So IOW you have no answer, just what I thought.

Pathetic.

[helpmetohelpyou]

35. This is you asking the same question over and over again when it's already been answered

Pathetic ? yes I would say it is..

[noiretextatique]

20. and wtf did wilson "deserve?"

a free walk? why didn't the DA seek an indictment is a case where an unarmed victim died? and please don't tell me he "tried," because he did not.

[arcane1]

21. Facts?? That's no fun.

And I agree, after reading the link, that this appears to be legitimate.

[Rex]

25. Facts are great. Like the fact that in the DAs career he only indicted one cop

out of 5 cases...the black cop. But hey, no racism here...Wilson just...got lucky...yeah that's the ticket.

[arcane1]

27. I agree that Wilson should be dealing with an even worse fate.

[Rex]

34. What I cannot believe is that nobody has called this particular DA out for obvious racism.

Maybe it is so prevalent in that area, that what he does is just considered normal behavior.

[arcane1]

37. That's my fear, it's invisible because it's so "normal"

Like a fish not noticing the water

[JDPriestly]

43. Please see my post #42.

[JDPriestly]

45. This was a black officer and a black victim.

[Android3.14]

50. The prosecuter is black?

The police officer was the victim of the prosecuter.

[noiretextatique]

71. NO, it is the same prosecutor who failed to indict Wilson, McCulloch

and he is not black.

[Android3.14]

72. Hear that "woosh" sound? Look up

I will explain, even though it ruins the humor.

The victim in this case (vis-à-vis the prosecutor indicting the black cop as opposed to a white cop) was the black cop.

JDPriestly was dismissive of the obvious double standard of how this prosecutor treats black cops as opposed to white cops, because the person with the hurt hand was black. This was misdirection from the actual situation of unequal treatment by the prosecutor.

By asking if the prosecutor is black, I provide contrast which simultaneously exposes JDPriestly's misdirection error (probably unintentional) and also shows that the prosecutor has a serious racial bias.

[noiretextatique]

73. i confess...i did not follow that mini-thread

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thanks for the explanation.

[Android3.14]

74. 'Sokay

I appreciate the grace in your response.

[noiretextatique]

75. likewise eom

[Ash_F]

60. That is a different perspective than the one the officer gave in the interview.

Darren Wilson gave a different perspective than what witnesses gave as well.

[noiretextatique]

39. let me post this, as a guide for those who need it

[marym625]

41. Thank you

Going to share that!

[noiretextatique]

52. it is very handy, i've already posted it twice nt

[Electric Monk]

63. Worth reposting. That's the first time I've seen it, though not the first I've seen those arguments.

(kicking your thread back to page 1...)

[noiretextatique]

69. here is another one

[marym625]

40. I saw this

And was more surprised he charged any cop..so very many publications have been saying McCulloch has never indicted a cop.

I guess he hasn't. He just charges the black cops. Indictments are saved for anyone but a cop.

[Live and Learn]

68. +1 nt

[Cha]

44. Damn! It keeps getting Worse!

[Live and Learn]

70. The sad part is that it isn't getting worse. It has been that bad.

It is just getting some light shown upon it for a change.

[Android3.14]

49. What a nasty bit of work

This guy needs to change careers to something less prone to bringing out his awful side, such as animal exterminator or pimp.

[Omaha Steve]

54. Well conservatives back that up too