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DFW

(54,414 posts)
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 05:34 AM Dec 2014

Our homicidal cops are creating the next John Allen Muhammed

The so-called DC sniper set up in a van at night and randomly killed or wounded ten people in three weeks.

Some fine day, our out-of-control dirty cops will kill the relative or friend of a former US military sniper in Iraq or Afghanistan, and he will go on a spree of sniping at cops, most of whom probably never did any wrong.

Failure to indict the bad cops could well end up being a death sentence for some good ones--which, in turn, will probably end up being a death sentence for more unarmed innocents, and so on, and so on, and so on. I get why Washington has been so slow to react--they think each new episode will be the last, and that cops will have learned from all the bad press. The trouble is that if the bad cops are always made to feel they've done nothing wrong, they will learn only that nothing will come it if they murder an innocent. The Department and the DA have their backs. At some point, a well-armed citizen (and the NRA has made sure the USA is full of them) with a grudge, serious sniper training and nothing to lose will feel a need--and a justification--for what he sees as justified revenge.

German and French TV (I saw a lot of both this week, and speak both languages) have had intense, extensive reports about the recent police murders in the USA. The whole world is watching. I don't know how much longer our "authorities" can afford not to care.

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MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. The DC sniper was a nutty wife murderer wannabee.
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 08:42 AM
Dec 2014

He was willing to kill a bunch of people so that, when he finally murdered his wife, it wouldn't be traced back to him. He didn't want to pay the child support. Very craven.

Worse, he didn't do the deed--he brainwashed a homeless and needy young kid to do it for him.

He didn't have a van (that was the rumor, that it was a white van). He drove around in an old four door shitbox car, with his shooter buddy crammed in the trunk of the car, shooting out of a tiny little hole in the trunk.

DFW

(54,414 posts)
5. True that on the van.
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 12:24 PM
Dec 2014

I just used the DC sniper as an example of what is not a far-fetched scenario of what could well happen when some of our bloodthirsty cops decide to murder the wrong unarmed citizen. Ever see the film "Law Abiding Citizen?" I see that film as only a little far-fetched. We have trained enough of our guys in the Middle East to be capable of that kind of a rampage.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. Never saw that film, but John Muhammad just wanted to kill his ex-wife and get away with it.
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 02:05 PM
Dec 2014

And he was willing to "Svengali" a young kid to do his dirty work for him. The undocumented kid from Jamaica never spent a day in the Middle East, never had a normal life, never was treated with any degree of normalcy--and he's got to spend the rest of his life knowing he was the instrument of so many deaths. He didn't feel any rage, he just wanted a daddy.

DFW

(54,414 posts)
7. Muhammed was definitely the manipulator there
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 05:12 PM
Dec 2014

I wasn't trying to use his personal situation as a comparison. Rather, I was trying to use him as an example of how a sniper, if he is clever enough, can commit much mayhem and go for quite a while without being detected.

The film was about an ex-CIA guy whose home was invaded and his family killed in front of him, and the goons who did it were caught, but got off on a technicality. The cops and prosecution were sympathetic, but told him he had to "get over it and move on." He did neither. It was just a film, of course, but some day, some trigger-happy cop is going to wrongly (but deliberately) kill the father, brother, or best friend of a guy like that. One day, a guy like the one in the film could just as easily end up not "getting over it" or "moving on."

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. Wasn't "Dirty Harry" on a similar vein, though Harry was supposedly fighting "punks" who "got away
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 11:16 PM
Dec 2014

with it."

Shudder.

Reminds me of Zimmerman--maybe that was his role model...?

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