Awwww! Their Feelings R Hurt(And no, I did not photoshop this headline from today's newspaper)

[McCamy Taylor]

Worst headline ever.

[savalez]

1. That line of reasoning is unreasonable.

"How can he say he can't breath if he can't breath?"

In that circumstance "can't" is akin to saying "having difficulty" only it's shorter and universally understood. Well, universally understood until someone is trying to justify murder.

Poor police. Yeah, right. Boo hoo.

[99th_Monkey]

9. Yes. and not only that.

The corollary of "If you can speak, then you can breath" is
"If you can't speak? ...we'll know you're dead".

[ellennelle]

17. yeah; a bit like

throw the witches in the water!

if they float, they're witches, so burn them!

if they don't, well ....

[99th_Monkey]

19. Heads I win

tails you lose.

[rhett o rick]

10. I agree. They are disputing whether he could really breath or not. He died from not F'n breathing.

Need to get the authors' email addys.

[Chemisse]

12. If I were struggling to breathe,

I wouldn't say, "Gee, I can breath but I don't seem to be getting enough air to sustain life."

I would say "I can't breathe."

[roguevalley]

31. when a teacher gets caught shagging a student it becomes all teachers

suck. Only bad ones do. Same with cops. Fuck them if they can't tell the difference.

RV a teacher who has a zillion cops in the family who can tell the difference.

[socialist_n_TN]

32. Yeah, but until the so-called "good cops" start rousting ......

and getting rid of the "bad" ones, then they're complicit in the acts perpetrated by the bad ones. Silence is complicity.

IOW, I'll grant that there are good cops when I see some bad cops ousted and neutralized by these so-called "good" cops. Until then, they're ALL bad cops. Some actively bad and the rest passively bad.

[roguevalley]

37. true but that happens in all professions. I doubt there is a person on this

board who doesn't have the same silence in their profession. Until there are SEVERE penalties for this, we are all in trouble.

[AwakeAtLast]

41. But their silence can contribute to someone's death

There has to be a way to ensure basic equal treatment.

[KentuckyWoman]

57. Huge difference, HUGE

It's one thing to not mention to the boss Suzie Q receptionist is snotty to callers, wiping office supplies and shagging the Fed Ex man in the broom closet. Nobody gets maimed, incarcerated unjustly or dies.

[Tsiyu]

62. Cops are judge, jury AND have medical degrees!

Working 8 years in emergency rooms as a respiratory tech, this I witnessed... people will come in saying they 'cannot breathe' and when plugged up to monitors, lo and behold, they aren't breathing properly, because their O2 saturation will be in the lo 80's or worse.

Yes, they can wheeze out the words. Are they perfusing and getting proper oxygen to keep them from dying? No.

So people can say "i can't breathe" and they truly cannot catch their breath, especially if asthma or COPD are part of the picture.

But I love how cops are now also licensed to dispense medical diagnoses! That will really save communities on health care costs!

[JaneyVee]

2. I can say I can't breathe 11x without taking a breath in.

Not surprised it took 2 morons to write that article.

[bemildred]

3. They need to comply, then we won't hurt them. nt

[ThoughtCriminal]

4. They have no idea what "under the bus" feels like

hint:

It's hard to breathe.

[OrwellwasRight]

46. +1

You're so right.

[adieu]

5. They should all be

thrown under a speeding front loader.

[Arugula Latte]

6. Gee, this article makes me feel all *choked* up.

[etherealtruth]

7. These people are TONE DEAF

I'd rather be thrown under the figurative bus than be on the wrong end of a gun or choke hold.

[sabrina 1]

8. Aw, poor babies. Lucky for them only their FEELINGS are hurt. Too bad they can't seem to understand

how hurtful it is to lose a loved one to one of their bullets or how much it hurts to be bashed over the head, or hit with militarized weapon simply for exercising their 1st Amendment rights.

If their feelings ARE hurt, then these protests are successful, something finally got to them, even if it's not what it should be.

[Terra Alta]

11. Oh, I'm so sorry their little feelings are hurt.

I'm sure the family of Eric Garner is hurting a lot worse. Fuck these cops' "feelings".

[Chemisse]

13. As a teacher, I say, welcome to the feeling of being unappreciated. The difference is,

I work my ass off to do my best to teach my students under difficult circumstances.

You kill people.

[sakabatou]

14. Lemme play my angstrom sized violin

[Systematic Chaos]

16. And I'll join you with my 0.0000000001 yoctometer one.

It's truly a "string" string instrument!!

http://htwins.net/scale2/

Edited to add: I felt the need to put some levity into this discussion, because otherwise I'll just get really depressed and angry at the same time. Those fuckers.

[riqster]

30. Levity and science appreciated.

[L0oniX]

61. Join you with muh cello...

[ellennelle]

15. thrown under the bus?

oh so sad 4 u.

eric garner was thrown into a grave.

wanna trade?

i'll bet he would.

in a new york heartbeat, as they say.

[jobendorfer]

20. what newspaper is this?

1. Eric Garner overweight.
- Not a crime in any jurisdiction

2. Eric Garner was in poor health
- Not a crime in any jurisdiction

3. He was a nuisance to shop owners
- Ok, so he was annoying. Still not a crime.

4. He allegedly sold untaxed cigarettes
-This might be a misdemeanor, if true and the prosecutor was having a slow week

5. He resisted arrest
- more serious ... but

...NOT A CAPITAL OFFENSE.

God Almighty, and that's just the first paragraph.

Where do they find writers like this?

Still waiting for somebody to explain to me how a wheezing guy held down by three other cops is a deadly threat to anyone.

J.

[Scootaloo]

28. Untaxed cigarettes are a violation, not a misdemeanor

It's akin to your meter running out, as far as the law is concerned.

And "resisting arrest" is a fucking joke, especially when there is no cause for the arrest. You don't get arrested for violations. And what person ISN'T going to resist being thrown to the ground and choked in the course of an unwarranted arrest?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

49. Cops act like they can shoot you for giving them lip.

[R B Garr]

59. Exactly! They can do whatever they want and sort it out

later. I made a general comment here the other day about what cops could do to harass protestors -- if they wanted to -- and someone wanted a link to a statute saying that. That made me lol.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

60. It's getting to the point where I expect a massacre....

Police blogs read like an SS journal.

They want to open fire on protesters for the "crime" of refusing to obey.

[socialist_n_TN]

34. I THINK this is from USA Today.....

At least I saw this headline in my morning newspaper in the USA Today insert.

[malaise]

21. Well none of the people they killed will ever again be upset

Fugg 'em!
What do they not get about protect and serve.

[SamKnause]

22. It isn't harsh enough.

I have ZERO respect for the police or their union in the U.S.

Their atrocious actions and deeds have earned my disrespect.

[malokvale77]

23. Just ugh.

After reading the comments in The Dallas Morning News editorial section, I thought I was all out of disgust. But no, it seems I have plenty more to go around.

[valerief]

24. If only it was legal to throw some of them under busses. nt

[Hassin Bin Sober]

25. Poor little piggies get so mad when called out.

Here they are protesting when some of their union members get caught in a $500,000 scandal fixing tickets

[Atman]

26. Remember when we had a thing called "journalism?"

I took journalism courses in school. The Five W's in the first paragraph. WTF is this shit? I've read more thought-provoking, in-depth reporting in high school newspapers. But then, reporters' jobs were notoriously low-paying back in the old days. Now they're probably lucky to make $5/hr plus tips. And we wonder why there is no "news." If you don't have blonde hair and large breasts, you aren't qualified to read a Fox "News" TelePrompTer.

[Scootaloo]

27. Also, the headline is changed from the original piece

The AP published title of the article is "Police: Chokehold victim complicit in own death." It's still a gross sack of apologetics with lots of input from the police unions, Peter King, directors of "police studies," etc.

[otohara]

29. Link to Article Please

so we can finish the article.

I couldn't find this pic and headline anywhere else

[McCamy Taylor]

39. Each paper that carries the AP story has a different headline.

Here is another one:

"New York City police feel betrayed, demonized in wake of protests over chokehold ruling"

Is feeling "betrayed and demonized" worse than the feeling of being unable to breathe?


http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/12/05/thousands_protest_chokehold_death_decision_for_second_night.html

[Iggo]

33. Upset?

Fuck the motherfucking fuck out of those fucking motherfuckers!

Imagine if we were killing them at the same rate they were killing us. Would they still be upset? Or would they be in a blind rage?

Again, fuck those motherfuckers. Every goddam one of 'em.

FUCK!!!

[Enthusiast]

43. +1 a whole fucking bunch.

[safeinOhio]

35. Five cops holding down a dead man screaming

"Stop resisting, stop resisting" while they pound away.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

36. I saw a few rather *ahem* portly cops on that scene.

How much you wanna bet if one of those died of a heart attack during the struggle Garner would be up on murder charges and the bag pipes would be playing for an in the line of duty funeral.

[tularetom]

38. OK, if he could say "I can't breathe" that means he in fact could breathe

If that in fact is what Tom Hays and Colleen Long believe, I can accept that.

Then why is he dead?

Maybe because he could not fucking breathe, dumbasses.

[Hissyspit]

40. The thugs who trashed Occupy protestors, destroyed their personal property, arrested journalists,

pepper-sprayed people for no reason?

Those jack-boot assholes?

[MrMickeysMom]

42. Know what THIS is?

… Yes, it's the world's smallest violin...

[DeSwiss]

44. Fuck. The. Police.

K&R

[ChisolmTrailDem]

45. Please tell me that copy is from the editorial page. Please! nt

[Hekate]

47. I guess it just sucks to be them.

Too bad Eric Garner couldn't suck in any air.

[Are_grits_groceries]

48. As a doctor pointed out,

SAYING "I can't breathe" uses air going out that was already present in the lungs at some amount.
You need air going in to live.
Stupid mooks!

[blkmusclmachine]

50. The goons like all their shenanigans swept quietly under the carpet. TOUGH!

[madokie]

51. F*'em

I'll change my thoughts about them when they change their treatment towards people of color. I could care less where someone comes from or the color of their skin, all I care about is whats in their heart.
fuck a bunch of broken hearted cops who can't figure this all out on their own, f* 'em

[merrily]

52. I once told my sister I could not breathe. She called 911.

The next thing I knew, it was a month later; and I was still in the hospital, with a tracheotomy tube in my throat.

So, I can say unequivocally that saying you can't breathe does NOT mean you can breathe after all.

These people may be conflating the test for choking to death with the inability to oxygenate. If you seem to be choking, supposedly the test is to see if you can talk. If you can't talk, you need a Heimlich. (I say "supposedly" because I am not a medical professional. This is just what I've heard.) However, again, I can tell you from catastrophic experience that a person about to pass out (or worse) from lack of oxygen can say "I can't breathe" and be 100% correct. So, if someone says to you "I can't breathe," do NOT assume they can. Do what my sister did. Call 911.*

I can't believe how irresponsible people can be to say otherwise in a newspaper.

*ETA: And, if you know CPR, start CPR. My sister did not know CPR. But I am not trying to give medical advice here, beyond saying it's bs that saying "I can't breathe" means you can breathe, nor am I qualified to give medical advice.

[maindawg]

53. All corporate media are parroting these memes

All media is corporate owned thanks to the saint of corporate America. They have to support the authoritarian state. The celebrities who represent the corporate view masquerading as reporters are to blame. They are the mouth piece for the modern fascist who have perverted our electorate to such a point that KKK a hole openly admit to their ignorance. To a point where bigots double down on their ignorance because they feel safety,in numbers.
They must be constantly marginalized by the sane people.Its a never ending thankless job and I think we are losing.

[KingCharlemagne]

54. I'll believe there are 'good cops' when I see them arrest 'bad cops.' Until

then, cry me a river.

[99Forever]

55. Fuck the police.

[RoccoR5955]

66. +1 n/t

[Rolo]

56. Bad cops defending worse cops

Instead of the harsh criticism, they should be upset by the harsh treatment by their fellow cops.

[PatrynXX]

58. getting some of this shit

from people on the right (my dad and my brother)

course this isn't coming from good cops. but mostly from middle cops. they could be bad don't know

[WestCoasterDude]

63. Bullies behind the badges

In my opinion, the militarization of the police forces of the US has engendered a recruitment of people into those organizations that are aggressive, hateful and mean. They hide this behavior behind the authority of the badge. They are the minority of the police organization that give the whole of the organization a bad name. There is a small minority that account for a significant portion of these incidents (reference this study in NYC). Unless and until way to weed these types out and/or punish them for their behavior is undertaken, this stuff will continue. Unfortunately.

[kath]

64. Fuck them. Fucking pigs!

[Rex]

65. Tough shit, go work in another profession if you can't handle criticism.

GET USE TO IT! Until thug cops are removed from the force, this is going to be the new NORMAL.

Don't like it, QUIT.