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ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 10:25 PM Jan 2015

Pot makes you jump from buildings... 60 Minutes.

Did anyone else see this? They (the media) blamed the death of a college student visiting Denver, during their medical marijuana only phase, on marijuana-laced cookies. 60 Minutes just mentioned it without any other comment other than that marijuana intoxication caused his death.

Remember the old propaganda PSAs about pot making you jump off buildings? Reefer Madness?



60 Minutes, for some reason tonight, has decided to propel this propaganda into the 21st century push for legalization. And, what else would we expect?
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Pot makes you jump from buildings... 60 Minutes. (Original Post) ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2015 OP
Don't know about that, but it makes it easier to fall off Xipe Totec Jan 2015 #1
. arcane1 Jan 2015 #3
:o LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #8
A winner right out of the gate! bvf Jan 2015 #11
Not a good sign. Screw CBS & 60 Minutes. "Journalism" my ass. 99th_Monkey Jan 2015 #2
60 Minutes, not CNN Duppers Jan 2015 #21
Thanks .. I changed it. FYI -nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2015 #22
I'd rarher jump off a sky scraper olddots Jan 2015 #4
Tonight, on 60 Hot Minutes... Blue Owl Jan 2015 #5
Is pot what made Steve whassisname do nasty?!1 n/t UTUSN Jan 2015 #6
How many died from alcohol today? JaneyVee Jan 2015 #7
I've no doubt that some suicidal people are high when they kill themselves . . . Journeyman Jan 2015 #9
I missed that 60 minutes like I've been missing it for the last 10 years or so.. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #10
Same here. Remember Diane Linkletter? Warpy Jan 2015 #15
That story convinced me to not try acid throughout high school Oilwellian Jan 2015 #24
I probably did your share Warpy Jan 2015 #25
And I picked up where you left off madokie Jan 2015 #29
I did acid before I ever tried pot. Acid was still legal when I first tripped. hobbit709 Jan 2015 #33
What madokie Jan 2015 #37
I got a Vapir NO2. Wasn't cheap but works great for me. hobbit709 Jan 2015 #38
"jumped" Who saw him jump? DID he actually jump? Was he playing around and accidentally fell? BlueJazz Jan 2015 #12
This is , of course, the same show sadoldgirl Jan 2015 #13
I did see a guy ripped on pot (I mean really ripped,) jumped out of a car while going nearly 60... Archae Jan 2015 #14
I remember this story.. they left out that he was also intoxicated The Shredder Jan 2015 #16
Lots of "intoxications" can cause death--water intoxication can kill one. MADem Jan 2015 #17
Lots of wrong and missing information in your OP. intheflow Jan 2015 #18
Great post, thanks Warpy Jan 2015 #26
They can also be inconsistent. intheflow Jan 2015 #35
Check the milligrams nichomachus Jan 2015 #39
Excessive alcohol use is a leading cause of preventable death...approximately 88,000 deaths per year progressoid Jan 2015 #19
Bill Hicks (again) on flying from buildings: 7wo7rees Jan 2015 #20
Not only that 60 Minutes trashed ACA Duppers Jan 2015 #23
SAVE US FROM TEH POT! Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #27
That actually gets read by a real person.. Fumesucker Jan 2015 #31
In Sanskrit. Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #32
Playing Dungeons&Dragons leads to the occult and Satanism. DetlefK Jan 2015 #28
PRESCRIPTION drugs kill twice as many people each year than pot, heroin, meth and cocaine combined piratefish08 Jan 2015 #30
60 Minutes lost credibility with me a long time ago JonLP24 Jan 2015 #34
Meanwhile, on that same day, six Americans died from alcohol overdose. Scuba Jan 2015 #36
He should've stuck with an Indica. I have this one that makes me not do shit. NightWatcher Jan 2015 #40

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
1. Don't know about that, but it makes it easier to fall off
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 10:32 PM
Jan 2015

If you're climbing....

On the outside of the building....

And you've had one too many drinks...

And it's raining...

But enough about me....

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
2. Not a good sign. Screw CBS & 60 Minutes. "Journalism" my ass.
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 10:33 PM
Jan 2015

Last edited Mon Jan 12, 2015, 02:42 AM - Edit history (1)

One could make the same argument about mashed potatoes

I wonder what the jumper ate for lunch?

Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
9. I've no doubt that some suicidal people are high when they kill themselves . . .
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 10:54 PM
Jan 2015

but their mental issues have little to nothing to do with the marijuana they use, other than their effort to find relief from their pain.

mountain grammy

(26,624 posts)
10. I missed that 60 minutes like I've been missing it for the last 10 years or so..
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 10:54 PM
Jan 2015

but, here in Colorado, we have often heard of the college kid who jumped to his death. No word on any other reason except pot, but call me a cockeyed skeptic, I'm willing to guess, due to the lack of any litigation or charges from the pot hating authorities, there's way more to the story.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
15. Same here. Remember Diane Linkletter?
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 11:51 PM
Jan 2015

She went out a 6th floor window in 1969 and her father blamed LSD and based his later life campaigning against demon drugs. The problem was that her toxicology report was clean and apparently she'd had a history of depression.

There is always more to these stories than a hysterical antidrug press admits to.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
24. That story convinced me to not try acid throughout high school
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 03:25 AM
Jan 2015

It was very popular during the late sixties, early seventies, but I was too chicken to do it because of what happened to Art Linkletter's daughter. To think I missed out on all of those magic carpet rides, for nothing. LOL

madokie

(51,076 posts)
29. And I picked up where you left off
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 06:24 AM
Jan 2015

reefer madness is what made me have to try pot to begin with. after the first joint I knew my life would never be the same. Went on to smoke for 40 some odd years and still would if my lungs and meds would let me.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
33. I did acid before I ever tried pot. Acid was still legal when I first tripped.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:04 AM
Jan 2015

My vaporizer fixed my lungs problem.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
37. What
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 10:24 AM
Jan 2015

is a good kind to buy. I've bought a couple but neither was worth a durn when it came right down to it. These two I bought were the pen type. One I thought was going to be the kitty kats meow but it wasn't. Mcig

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
38. I got a Vapir NO2. Wasn't cheap but works great for me.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 10:26 AM
Jan 2015

I would go into a 5 minute uncontrollable coughing fit any time I tried to smoke. That stopped once I started using the vape.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
12. "jumped" Who saw him jump? DID he actually jump? Was he playing around and accidentally fell?
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 11:24 PM
Jan 2015

Could he of been pushed? Was he of sound mind?

Did the pot help him jump..? A very slight "possible"

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
13. This is , of course, the same show
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 11:30 PM
Jan 2015

that Shouted BENGAZI in a totally ridiculous way!

Hey, way to go down, down, down,60 Minutes!

Archae

(46,337 posts)
14. I did see a guy ripped on pot (I mean really ripped,) jumped out of a car while going nearly 60...
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 11:35 PM
Jan 2015

The guy was stoned out of his gourd and simply did something really stupid.
That's all.
(He did survive but was pretty banged up.)

As to this jumper, I have no idea how true the story is, how much pot was in his system, or if he had other problems.

 

The Shredder

(46 posts)
16. I remember this story.. they left out that he was also intoxicated
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 11:53 PM
Jan 2015

from alcohol....

And decided to blame it on cookies. What a fucking joke.

intheflow

(28,477 posts)
18. Lots of wrong and missing information in your OP.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 12:54 AM
Jan 2015

Last edited Tue Jan 13, 2015, 01:26 AM - Edit history (1)

I can't comment on the 60 minutes piece because I'm not at able to listen to sound at the moment (SO is studying on the couch next to me), but I live in Denver and remember the story well.

1) This did NOT happen before recreational sales. It happened in March 2014, three months after recreational pot went legal.

2) The man ate a single pot cookie that contained 6-1/2 doses.

3) The store told him to cut the cookie into 6 pieces and only eat one at a time. He ate one piece and then told his friends he didn't feel anything, so ate all the rest of the cookie.

4) He started freaking out, but his friends calmed him down. Then he went to sleep but woke agitated and incoherent many times during the night, including once when he started smashing furniture.

5) At some point in the morning, he ran from his upper-floor hotel room and fell over a rail in the hallway, into the lobby below.

6) "The media" did not blame his death on pot. The coroner's report did, just as it also came back negative for alcohol or other drugs. The coroner ruled his death due to marijuana intoxication. Not "the media."

I am an avowed pothead, but FFS, to think it's impossible for someone to have a bad reaction to a drug is naive, especially with the high grade shit we have out here. I mean, some people die from eating peanuts, gluten, and shellfish, though the vast majority of people can ingest them without any problem. It's not impossible that someone could have a really bad reaction to pot.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
26. Great post, thanks
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 03:33 AM
Jan 2015

Edibles have to be approached with a lot of caution. They come on slow and last for a very, very long time.

I went through the 60s and even I wouldn't touch the commercial edibles, although I've been known to use the leaf itself in pot cuisine once I'd assessed its strength through smoking a joint.

As time goes on, edibles will be a lot more formally packaged with specific instructions about how much and how often, especially with cautions about how long it takes to feel anything and how long the duration is.

intheflow

(28,477 posts)
35. They can also be inconsistent.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 09:39 AM
Jan 2015

Santa gave me some cookies in my stocking this year. I ate half a cookie and felt a light, pleasant buzz. The next day I ate the other half and was blasted outta my mind. A week later, another half brought me somewhere in the middle. It was weird and makes me want to stick with smoking until they figure out how to make the high more consistent.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
39. Check the milligrams
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 04:43 PM
Jan 2015

The counselor at the marijuana clinic told me to never buy anything that didn't have "milligrams" listed on the package. The other stuff -- listed with percentages or nothing at all -- is usually untested, inconsistent, whatever.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
20. Bill Hicks (again) on flying from buildings:
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 01:47 AM
Jan 2015

“Always that same LSD story, you've all seen it. 'Young man on acid, thought he could fly, jumped out of a building. What a tragedy.' What a dick! Fuck him, he’s an idiot.

If he thought he could fly, why didn’t he take off on the ground first?

Check it out. You don’t see ducks lined up to catch elevators to fly south—they fly from the ground, ya moron, quit ruining it for everybody."



Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
27. SAVE US FROM TEH POT!
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 04:15 AM
Jan 2015

All 12 retirees who still watch "60 Minutes" will be sure and write their representatives, now.

On stationary.

piratefish08

(3,133 posts)
30. PRESCRIPTION drugs kill twice as many people each year than pot, heroin, meth and cocaine combined
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:37 AM
Jan 2015

according to the CDC. so lets not even play the "what kills more people" game.......

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
34. 60 Minutes lost credibility with me a long time ago
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:14 AM
Jan 2015

Every time something with 60 Minutes, like this thread, attracts my interest it confirms they're not credible.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
40. He should've stuck with an Indica. I have this one that makes me not do shit.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 04:48 PM
Jan 2015

It's my more medical strain. I do prefer Sativa heavy hybrids if I need to run around and jump off of shit.

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