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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan we please set the record straight regarding France's reaction to the murder of Jewish
shoppers at the Hyper Cächer grocery store on Friday?
See this OP:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026074523
Then my reply:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026074523#post3
With all due respect, TTW, I'm afraid you don't know what you're talking about...
You are totally mistaken regarding France's reaction to the hostage-taking at the Jewish Hyper Cächer grocery store. Just because the blinkered and biased American press isn't reporting it, doesn't mean it isn't happening.
I live 5 minutes away (by bicycle) from the supermarket in question and can tell you first-hand that the whole surrounding area has become an improvised shrine to the four people killed there.
The crime scene has been visited by all of France's political leaders and by representatives of all of France's religious communities (including leading Muslim imams).
During yesterday's National March for Unity all over France (I happen to live 2 minutes from the Place de la Nation, the final destination of the rally), thousands and thousands of improvised banners and posters said: "Je suis Charlie, Je suis Policier, Je suis Juif, etc.--I am Charlie, I am a Police Officer, I am Jewish, I am Muslim, I am Atheist, I am Ahmed (murdered Muslim policeman) I am Yohav (murdered Jewish shopper)."
«Je suis Charlie, juif, policier»: Paris à lheure dun sursaut historique
http://www.liberation.fr/societe/2015/01/11/je-suis-charlie-juif-policier-paris-a-l-heure-d-un-sursaut-historique_1178318
http://mcetv.fr/mon-mag-politique-societe/1101-je-suis-charlie-je-suis-juif-je-suis-musulman-je-suis-policier-diams-atterree-choquee-facebook/
Manuel Valls porte de Vincennes : "la France sans les juifs de France n'est plus la France"
("France without its Jews is no longer France"
Des pancartes disant "Je suis juif" ou "Je suis hyper casher"
(Posters proclaiming "I am Jewish" or "I am Hyper Cächer)
"Des milliers de personnes dont le Premier ministre étaient présentes samedi soir devant la supérette casher où a eu lieu la prise d'otages vendredi."
http://www.rtl.fr/actu/societe-faits-divers/rassemblement-porte-de-vincennes-manuel-valls-est-sur-place-7776168281
Les manifestants brandissaient de petites pancartes proclamant : "Charlie Juif Flic : je suis la République". Des affichettes étaient brandies avec le nom des victimes. La formule "je suis" était en blanc, "la République" en rouge sur un fond marine.
Des personnes criaient "Je suis Juif" sur le mode de "Je suis Charlie" mais aussi "morts parce que Juifs" ou "Je suis hyper casher", du nom de la supérette attaquée par le jihadiste.
Des manifestants agitaient des drapeaux français et la foule a chanté la Marseillaise. Quelques personnes ont aussi chanté "Merci M. Chalghoumi", du nom de l'imam de Drancy qui était présent.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)while watching the BBC - a station notorious for their anti-Israel bent - make note, time and time again, about the 4 Jews killed in Paris. Just about every reporter on the ground mentioned it as well. I have no beef whatsoever with the press coverage of this.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)All day yesterday, in the international media outlets' coverage, you saw nothing but "Je suis Charlie, Je suis Juif, Je suis Policier".
I should also have taken issue with Torch the Witch's implication that French law enforcement purposely ignored the hostages' calls for help and forced them to:
" hide) for hours in cold storage freezers waiting for hours for the police to arrive. The initial shooting started around noon, and the police didn't show up until sundown though the people in hiding inside the market were using their cellphones to call for help."
Manifestly, TTW knows little or nothing about police tactics during hostage-taking situations.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I watched that BBC and CNN International.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Un fucking credible. Thanks for setting the record straight.
Pooka Fey
(3,496 posts)You're doing great work on DU today, Surya!
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)"ground zero" observations.
If you haven't seen it, take a look at this beautiful photo. Perfectly sums up the prevailing mood in France right now. I live only 2 min. from where it was taken.
Explanation here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026075388
Pooka Fey
(3,496 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)je suis désolé. I have heard from an acquaintance whose apartment I rented last summer for a week and she says it is unbelievable. Best wishes to all Parisians, may the violence go no further but stop now.
FSogol
(45,490 posts)Crabby Appleton
(5,231 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)only seem to report things in a way that makes the United States the most important part of it.
most disappointing is the lack of coverage over the incredible turnout at the rally .
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)cheese-eating surrender monkeys, don't cha know?
French President Hollande hasn't stood at one of the terror sites with a bullhorn yelling "Either yer with us or yer with the terrists (sic)".
He has also neglected to call for a crusade or to call anybody an "AXIS of EVIIILLLL".
So, of what interest is a history-making, unprecedented turnout of average French people?
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