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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 10:59 AM Jan 2015

GOP Has 2 Years To Fix The 2016 Election.

It may not really matter if Hillary or any Dems has even a 20 point lead over any of the GOP clowns. The GOP has a lot of time to fix the states to their favor with voter suppression, voter purges, outright intimidation, corrupted voting machines, et al to rig the next election. They way they work Dems could get 20 million votes more than GOPPERS and they will still lose. Look at how many more votes the Dems got last time.

And they have the media almost totally on their side. The MSM does not even hide their corruption any more. And then there are the Kochs their allies and their hoards of phony organizations and who knows how many billions of dollars to buy ads to lie to the American people.

I dread the next election cycle because it will outdo anything we have ever seen before. When we look at how many outrageously stupid GOPPERS who got elected you have to wonder where the GOP is. It does not matter how stupid, jaded or cruel GOPPERS are they win elections. And it does not matter how many stupid, racist, bigoted things GOPPERS say they even gain in the polls.

Remember we ended up with Reagan and 2 Bushes. Sure Obama won twice but he never had the Congress he really needed to get more done.

Sorry I am so cynical, but I have been following events very judiciously since Reagan won and just about everything that was planned has come to pass. I never would have imagined how far the religious right has come in its ability to take away women's reproductive rights. I I would have never imagined GOP control in so many states.

These bastards could start running around saying "sieg heil" and they might win.

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NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
1. The biggest part of the election stealing machine they now have is "Stop The Vote"
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 11:01 AM
Jan 2015

which they are working on day and night...

These people hate democracy, be sure of that.

#onlywaytheycanwin

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
10. "Stop the Vote" includes disenchanting and disillusioning potential voters on our side.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 02:27 PM
Jan 2015

And that disenchanting and disillusioning isn't only coming from Republicans and their minions.

That same thing doesn't happen on the Right-wing side. Even those RWers who can actually think, understand that voting for a mod-Republican is still better than voting for a Democrat, as well as riling up their base with wedge-issues. They know it's necessary if they want to win elections and win power that will decide whose agenda is put forward, how districts are drawn, how much of the civil rights and voting rights are gutted, and who gets lifetime seats on the only court in the land from which there is NO appealing a decision.

It's sad to me that we don't have that same understanding on our side.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. No problem, back in 2009 and 2010 when Dems controlled Congress and the White House they ...
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 11:02 AM
Jan 2015

... passed on doing anything to shore up voting rights, end the use of electronic voting machines, etc.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
11. How would you do that in every state?
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 02:37 PM
Jan 2015

Please be specific, site the law or explain how they can force ALL voting in ALL precincts in ALL states to do this>

Maybe you can, if you can I will sign on

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
13. Federal voting rights acts are nothing new ...
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 09:29 PM
Jan 2015
http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/vot/intro/intro_b.php

The Voting Rights Act of 1965

The 1965 Enactment


By 1965 concerted efforts to break the grip of state disfranchisement had been under way for some time, but had achieved only modest success overall and in some areas had proved almost entirely ineffectual. The murder of voting-rights activists in Philadelphia, Mississippi, gained national attention, along with numerous other acts of violence and terrorism. Finally, the unprovoked attack on March 7, 1965, by state troopers on peaceful marchers crossing the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Alabama, en route to the state capitol in Montgomery, persuaded the President and Congress to overcome Southern legislators' resistance to effective voting rights legislation. President Johnson issued a call for a strong voting rights law and hearings began soon thereafter on the bill that would become the Voting Rights Act.

Congress determined that the existing federal anti-discrimination laws were not sufficient to overcome the resistance by state officials to enforcement of the 15th Amendment. The legislative hearings showed that the Department of Justice's efforts to eliminate discriminatory election practices by litigation on a case-by-case basis had been unsuccessful in opening up the registration process; as soon as one discriminatory practice or procedure was proven to be unconstitutional and enjoined, a new one would be substituted in its place and litigation would have to commence anew.

President Johnson signed the resulting legislation into law on August 6, 1965. Section 2 of the Act, which closely followed the language of the 15th amendment, applied a nationwide prohibition against the denial or abridgment of the right to vote on the literacy tests on a nationwide basis. Among its other provisions, the Act contained special enforcement provisions targeted at those areas of the country where Congress believed the potential for discrimination to be the greatest. Under Section 5, jurisdictions covered by these special provisions could not implement any change affecting voting until the Attorney General or the United States District Court for the District of Columbia determined that the change did not have a discriminatory purpose and would not have a discriminatory effect. In addition, the Attorney General could designate a county covered by these special provisions for the appointment of a federal examiner to review the qualifications of persons who wanted to register to vote. Further, in those counties where a federal examiner was serving, the Attorney General could request that federal observers monitor activities within the county's polling place.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
3. On the bright side, Progressive groups also have two years to get voters registered
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 11:03 AM
Jan 2015

and out to vote.

They've tried to do this during the 2008 and 2012 elections, too, but it didn't get them the results they were after because it was rigorously countered. Hopefully, that will be the case in 2016 as well.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
7. Yes, but we not only need to get more progressives registered, we must give em incentive to vote, knowin it will make a difference.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 01:10 PM
Jan 2015

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
9. What more incentive do they need than SCOTUS? The economy? Stopping wars and not creating new ones?
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jan 2015

Free college for all? Affordable health care and working toward Medicare-for-all? Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Immigration reform? Pathway to citizenship for the longtime undocumented residents of this country? Better Cuban-American relationships? Stopping an environmental hazard-waiting-to-happn like Keystone XL and others like it? How about love of country and to keep it popular and well-liked around the world?

There are plenty of reasons for progressives to get out and vote, but the number one reason is to NOT allow Republicans to run this country again. If twelve disastrous years of failed Republican policies and eight years of a failed Republican president isn't enough incentive to get out the vote - in combination with the above - then maybe those particular Americans need to get real. If they're not a part of the solution, they're part of the problem.

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