Christie Says Parents Should Have ‘Choice’ on Vaccinations

[MohRokTah]

So now Christie is an ally of the anti-Vaxxers:

Christie Says Parents Should Have ‘Choice’ on Vaccinations

CAMBRIDGE, England — Amid an outbreak of measles that has spread across 14 states, Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey on Monday said that parents “need to have some measure of choice” about vaccinating their children against the virus, breaking with President Obama and much of the medical profession.

In remarks here, Mr. Christie stopped short of recommending that parents immunize their children against measles, or any other illness, calling for “balance” and “choice.”

Mr. Christie, when asked about the connection between the new measles cases and parents who object to the long-recommended vaccine against it, said that he and his wife had vaccinated their four children. He called that “the best expression I can give you of my opinion.”

But he added: “It’s more important what you think as a parent than what you think as a public official. I also understand that parents need to have some measure of choice in things as well. So that’s the balance that the government has to decide.”

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NY Times Link

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

1. Buttmunch.

How about the choice of immunizing or moving to New Jersey, and never leaving the state? Yes, there are some people who simply can't be immunized because of other health issues, but they're a small percentage of the population. Everyone else who CAN be immunized needs to be immunized.

Or, I guess, they could change the laws that if you electively choose not to be immunized, then get sick with a preventable disease and pass it along to others, it's treated as assault, and if the other person dies, as murder two... What's that phrase they use - 'criminal indifference'?

[yeoman6987]

26. My body, my choice

I will continue that mantra. It is for all aspects of life not just convenient ones.

[HockeyMom]

27. Same here

from a Senior woman.

[mountain grammy]

79. How senior? Old enough to remember polio epidemics?

I am. I'd prefer to not go back there.

[HockeyMom]

88. 1948

Grew up in Manhattan. Never knew a kid who had polio. Did not know any other children who died, were hospitalized, or had serious complications from measles, mumps, german measles, or chicken pox. NONE of those vaccinations were around in the 50s. I was in school by the time the sugar cube polio vax came around.

Maybe NYC is the key, even back then. City kids, while unvaccinated, had access to a lot of doctors and hospitals. From where we lived we could have walked to a hospital if need be. However, these diseases were considered no big deal. Must not have been any outbreaks of polio in my neighborhood because I do not remember any quarantine signs. I started school in 1956 so would have been old enough to remember that.

I do not deny that a child living in a rural area back in those days would have been at a disadvantage.

[Warren Stupidity]

103. Oh heck I was born in '51 and distinctly remember kids in braces.

In fact I have a clear memory of seeing a polio victim while visiting the bronx zoo - he was about my age and had leg braces and all the moms steered their kids a safe distance from him without being too obvious.

No doctor was going to save you from polio before the salk vaccine and polio was rampant in big cities.

On Saturday, June 17, 1916 an official announcement of the existence of an epidemic polio infection was made in Brooklyn, New York. That year, there were over 27,000 cases and more than 6,000 deaths due to polio in the United States, with over 2,000 deaths in New York City alone.[13] The names and addresses of individuals with confirmed polio cases were published daily in the press, their houses were identified with placards, and their families were quarantined.[14] Dr. Hiram M. Hiller, Jr., was one of the physicians in several cities who realized what they were dealing with, but the nature of the disease remained largely a mystery. The 1916 epidemic caused widespread panic and thousands fled the city to nearby mountain resorts; movie theaters were closed, meetings were canceled, public gatherings were almost nonexistent, and children were warned not to drink from water fountains, and told to avoid amusement parks, swimming pools, and beaches.[13] From 1916 onward, a polio epidemic appeared each summer in at least one part of the country, with the most serious occurring in the 1940s and 1950s.[1] In the epidemic of 1949, 2,720 deaths from the disease occurred in the United States and 42,173 cases were reported and Canada and the United Kingdom were also affected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_poliomyelitis#Epidemics

You must have lived in a bubble.

[ninjanurse]

122. Public Vaccination Clinics

I was lucky enough to get into one in time, but I've met people my own age on crutches for life.

[mountain grammy]

111. My mom was Brooklyn born and raised.

She was born in 1912. As a child, she had smallpox. She remembered many quarantine signs.

I wonder, did you get the polio vaccine? You may never have known anyone who ever had it, but I do. You might also, there are quite a few still limping around. I feel like you casually dismiss diseases you have never had contact with, almost like you don't believe they exist. They do.
I had measles as a kid. It became scarlet fever and I was very sick and lucky to survive with no heart complications, and we lived on a military base with a hospital. Many people are walking around with bad hearts due to complications from measles.

I think most reasons for not immunizing are frivolous. Only legitimate medical reasons should be acceptable for school admission. How can someone take the chance that their stubborn ignorance may cause the suffering and/or death of a child?

[Spider Jerusalem]

112. In 1949, New York State had 5000 cases of polio out of 38,000 nationwide.

The last major epidemic was in 1952, when there were serious outbreaks nationwide and 58,000 cases.

And here, the bottom chart is polio incidence in NYC--as you can see, there were still 10 cases per 100K population in 1950, which is equal to about 800; it's lower than the rate for the USA as a whole (the chart on the top), but it's definitely not non-zero.

[murielm99]

116. I was born in 1948.

I knew many kids in braces, who showed the after effects of polio. I went to school with them.

I knew a kid with hearing loss from measles. Our school superintendent and a local business man lost their sons to the after effects of chicken pox. A girl in town died from measles encephalitis, after several years in a vegetative state.

I think most of the people I know, born in 1948, whether or not they lived in Manhattan, had similar experiences.

I challenge the accuracy of your memories.

[HuckleB]

99. It doesn't matter.

The anti-vaccine supporter is wrong, and supports an unethical stance. Age, gender, and all the rest do not matter on this issue.

[haikugal]

105. Agree...

This is a very different thing than a woman's choice to carry a pregnancy or not. I'm hearing them try to muddy the waters with that argument.

[HuckleB]

108. It's not even close.

It really makes me very angry, indeed.

[haikugal]

114. Love Marvin the Martian...

Or is that a different character....and you're right again, it's not even close but that won't stop them.

[HuckleB]

120. Indeed.

[haikugal]

106. I remember and like you

don't want to go back to that.

[Humanist_Activist]

30. Up until you threaten the health and safety of others, of course. n/t

[yeoman6987]

34. Too a point, but if we start mandatory anything to the body,

When does it stop? I really don't like mandatory anything because it is a slippery slope and one day we may not be happy with mandatory something.

[Humanist_Activist]

38. Again, I just stated where the line is, what is the point of public health if it doesn't concern...

public? And why is DU overrun by Libertarian assholes who are of a "got mine, fuck you" stance?

[GoneOffShore]

47. ^This^

Well said.

[yeoman6987]

54. Well it's no wonder your frustrated

Must be tough to have a simple discussion when you are closed minded. Are you sure you aren't conservative? Many of your statements make me feel you are 100 percent.

[Humanist_Activist]

56. Are you fucking kidding me? Who the fuck is taking the selfish position here?

Who the fuck is attacking GOOD public policy for absolutely, completely selfish reasons.

Go away, you literally have nothing to contribute to either this thread or DU as a whole, obviously you are a Libertarian, not a Democrat or Progressive.

[yeoman6987]

66. I am not a libertarian but somebody who wants YOU

To leave my body alone!!!! I will make decisions on my body with my doctor and myself. Leave my body alone as I will yours. You are a pro lifer too. Yieks!

[Humanist_Activist]

68. Bullshit comparison, period...

Here, is this the post of a pro-lifer?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021175736

I demand an apology, right fucking now!

I already mentioned where the fucking line is, abortion crosses it, mandatory vaccinations do NOT. Do I make myself clear?

[yeoman6987]

69. Finally!

[Humanist_Activist]

70. Finally what? You admit you were wrong? n/t

[yeoman6987]

74. Lol. You apologize first for calling me a libertarian

Which is insulting considering I just want to protect rights of body. Something extremely liberal by the way!

[Humanist_Activist]

76. Do I not have the right to not get my body invaded by diseases from your body?

Particularly ones whose transmission is easily prevented by herd immunity? Your position is extremist Libertarian, quite literally treating people as isolated islands. We need to balance individual rights with societal responsibities, I find mandatory vaccinations to be a reasonable public health policy.

[yeoman6987]

77. Ok. I sincerely apologize especially for the pro life remark which was uncalled for.

[MohRokTah]

65. There is no discussing vaccinations.

There is no debate.

Vaccinate or isolate.

Those are your choices.

[MohRokTah]

63. Bravo

Let them move to Galt's Gulch.

[ninjanurse]

123. Case by Case

That's why you look to science, and evaluate everything. I am pro-vaccination, also pro- better vaccines and keeping the public health system funded and active.

[GoneOffShore]

44. Well, stay out of my neighborhood where there are lots of kids.

And some cancer patients, and some folks who can't take a flu vaccine or other vaccine, and some people who are on immune suppressive drugs and some older people who could catch whatever it is you have.

Chris Christie is totally wrong on this, and as regards public health, you are totally wrong.

Vaccines are not completely risk free, but the diseases that they keep at bay are far worse than the risks.

And that whole false equivalence thing you're putting up - easy to see through.

Also, no one is being mean to you. Just pointing out the silliness.

[JaneyVee]

59. No, sorry, that mantra is for choices that don't effect others lives.

"So what if I wanna drink and drive, my body my choice!" Derp.

[Liberal Veteran]

72. "The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins."

You can bet your sweet ass if you somehow managed to come down with smallpox (or more likely infectious tuberculosis), you'd find out the limits of your mantra were about the size of a sealed hospital room for the duration, convenient or not.

[mountain grammy]

78. and your children? do they make their own "choice" too?

Because, as a child, my choice would have been no shots. Fortunately I had a mother who believed epidemics should be a thing of the past that she grew up in. I'm grateful there are more people like her than you.

[Sheepshank]

84. Then it should be the choice of communal and community areas to ban non vaxxed, potential carriers.

Public schools, restaurants, community pools, dental offices, courts, hospitals, and libraries comes to mind.

Of course that's not the mantra of anti vaxxers. They want to be able to carry and spread illness with impunity everywhere.

[HuckleB]

98. +1,000,000 ... 000

[HockeyMom]

115. So all of you older people have gotten your MMR vax too?

This is the general topic of everything. Are you walking around as an unvaccinated person for MEASLES.

[murielm99]

117. Many of them don't need it because

they had the diseases and still carry the immunity. A simple blood test will show whether or not they are immune.

I have had those tests. I had both kinds of measles, and have immunity.

[gregcrawford]

118. NOT your choice!

When your misinformed and irresponsible actions endanger other people, and especially their children, you have no right to a "choice," any more than you would have a choice to drive on the sidewalk, or drop bricks from an overpass. Those who say it's "not their responsibility" to be concerned for the lives of others are textbook sociopaths, and have no business being parents under ANY circumstances.

[HockeyMom]

119. You will not be catching measles from the Old People

and not because they are getting vaccinated. Having measles gives NATURAL (without vaccination) immunity.



http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/measles/faqs-dis-vac-risks.htm

Scroll down to the bottom. Born BEFORE 1957. Is the CDC quack science too? At least learn a little bit about diseases and the different kinds of immunity before screaming that EVERYBODY needs vaccinations.

BTW, all these people from Disney outbreaks who have gotten measles will NOT need MMR vaccinations. LIFETIME Natural Immunity from having the disease.

[AngryDem001]

121. Oh, PUH-LEEZE!!

Did you SERIOUSLY just compare vaccinations to reproductive rights?

[Godhumor]

73. Yay! my second time seeing one of your posts before you are removed again!

Surprised you are so determined to stay on a board that really doesn't want you.

[hlthe2b]

2. This from the man who imposed a mandatory quarantine (against CDC advice) for the asymptomatic

and thus non-infectious nurse returning from treating ebola patients in west Africa.

So that was just fine to take away her civil liberties and ignore public health authorities, but in an established measles national outbreak where the science and medical community are very clear.... What a pandering ahole.

[MohRokTah]

3. He's showing desperation.

This early in the 2016 process, that's not a good sign for his future. He may drop out before he ever gets in, like Mitt Romney.

[HappyMe]

11. Big shrub fan?

[MohRokTah]

13. The GOP Kandidate Klown Kar will be the most entertaining race in 2016. eom

[HappyMe]

14. Only if they can raise a BILLION!!1

I don't want entertainment. I want discussion about issues.

[MohRokTah]

15. That would be nice, but that's not the reality of national level politics in this country. eom

[HappyMe]

16. Big shrub fan?

Join in the fun!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6165359

[MohRokTah]

17. I already did

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026165359#post30

[MohRokTah]

18. BTW, since you've decided to make passive aggressive accusations and start stalking...

Buh bye.

[HappyMe]

19. Oh noes!!!

Stalking?

[Ilsa]

8. Rec your Reply! +1000 nt

[stevenleser]

48. Yup. + infinity. nt

[yellowcanine]

75. Yes, and this finally sinks any remaining chance he had of being President, imo.

His office has already had to walk it back, which is going to piss off the anti vaxxers without reassuring the people who think we need science based public health policy. Put a fork in him.

[Sheepshank]

85. +100 omg...how is it I forgot this public dislplay of hypocrisy fro Christie? n/t

[shenmue]

4. "Choice," as in the Republican meaning

"We'll find another way to screw you over."

[spanone]

5. what a fucking idiot.

[MohRokTah]

12. Obama came out as pro-vaccine in his pre-Superbowl interview.

That may have been the most strategic thing he's ever done since now the GOP must become anti-vaxxer by default.

[DetlefK]

6. What if I choose to infect my pet-rats with the bubonic plague?

[RKP5637]

7. Oh, that's just wonderful, let's bring polio back, it was just so much fun!

[MohRokTah]

9. Here's a great tweet about this

LOLGOP ?@LOLGOP 29m29 minutes ago

Christie: We must imprison nurses who risk their lives to fight infectious diseases and encourage mothers who fight to spread them.

[MissB]

23. Beautiful!

[mountain grammy]

80. Can't say that any better!

[TheBlackAdder]

10. As NJ's Governor, Christie has control of Rutgers University. MMR shots ARE MANDATORY at Rutgers. nt

[HockeyMom]

22. Are they mandatory at NJ's Private Religious Colleges too?

I would think private colleges, as well as private K-12, would have a religious exemption. Maybe Christie heard about New York College Student with measles.

[GoneOffShore]

45. No place should have a religious exemption.

[onecaliberal]

20. What in the complete hell.

Christie should stop talking out his ass. Parents of medically fragile children who cannot be vaccinated don't have a choice. Why do these stupid fucking science deniers get to drive the conversation.

[on point]

21. A fool declares he is unfit for office. Vaccines = 'choice', but a women shouldn't have 'choice'

[greatlaurel]

24. Christie proves once again his only skill is pandering to the fearful and ignorant.

After being proven completely wrong, totally inept, and willfully cruel in his treatment of the hero nurse Kaci Hickox, Christie chooses to double down and come out siding with the fools who do not want to vaccinate their children using the ridiculous catch words of balance and choice.

Christie is a dangerous person by his failed policies attacking ordinary working people. How many people have died thanks to Christie's failed policies attacking the poor, the working classes and the disabled.

[etherealtruth]

46. You nailed it!!!! n/t

[greatlaurel]

91. Thanks! Perhaps more people could point this out and shame the bully into keeping quiet.

The entire cohort of Republican politicians offer nothing but fear mongering, race baiting and class snobbery. It truly saddens me to see so many rural and working class people who vote reliably for Republican politicians who then turn around and enact policies to degrade the quality of the life of these same people. Raising property taxes, eliminating programs that help the poor, rural and disabled people and destroying public education can be relied on to be brought to us by the GOP, but these populations continue to blame all their ills on liberals, people poorer than themselves and people of color.

It is disgusting to see Christie, the bully and fear monger, to be given a pass by the media whenever he makes one of his absurd bullying pronouncements.

[LynneSin]

25. Soooo...then Parents should have the same choice to let their kids take PBJ sandwiches to school

Christie is wrong to speak out like this. The Anti-Vaxxers are basing their choice on a widely discredited published paper about the vaccine's connection to Autism.

If Parents do not vaccinate their children then they should home school them.

[HockeyMom]

28. Should the parents themselves telecommute from their jobs?

Do you assume they are vaccinating themselves? Cannot have Joe or Mary in the next cubicle catching a disease from unvaccinated workers!!!!!!

[Humanist_Activist]

29. Many jobs require vaccinations in order for you to work there...

health care workers, sanitary workers are required to be on certain schedules, even many office jobs require at least an annual flu vaccination. Most of these jobs offer the vaccinations themselves, and most require proof of vaccination in order for you to be allowed to work there.

[HockeyMom]

32. Offer but mandatory?

Office jobs? SMALL Businesses? Quit. Find another job that does not have those Wellness Nanny Health programs. Been there, done that.

[Humanist_Activist]

35. Can you really be this selfish? Seriously? n/t

[HockeyMom]

53. My body, my choice

I don't want ANY medical care, free under insurance or not. My body, my choice.

[MohRokTah]

57. If you do not want to be vaccinated, the government should remove you from all human contact.

Refusing vaccinations is the most anti-social act any human being can commit. The government should force the consequences of such a choice on people doing so.

Remove them from society.

Completely.

Live alone with no human contact.

Ever.

Or at least until you are willing to be vaccinated.

[Sheepshank]

87. Anti vaxers want it all, to have access to ALL public areas AND be carriers of preventable illnesses

...some people shouldn't be living in communities.

[haikugal]

113. Shades of Typhoid Mary.....n/t

[Humanist_Activist]

67. Even if it endangers others?

That's the issue, you can't compare this to abortion because that only effects the mother in a medical sense, but carrying contagious diseases is something that concerns all of us, and steps should be taken to reduce public exposure and risk, and that would include mandatory vaccinations.

[NYC Liberal]

86. It's NOT just "your body". It's everyone else's bodies, too.

And, no, you don't get to put MY life in danger. Anything that affects you -- and only you -- is up to you. When it involves other people, the good of society takes precedence.

[bhikkhu]

100. Typhoid Mary would sympathize

who cares if you you become a disease vector, and your choices lead to the deaths of strangers?

[MohRokTah]

51. They should be forced into complete isolation from society.

No direct contact with society whatsoever should be the consequences.

If you're going to be so anti-social as to refuse vaccination because FREEDUMB, the government should force you to take it all the way and completely isolate you from all human contact.

[HockeyMom]

60. Ghettos

that is what you are calling for. That is not America. I think you know what I am talking about. Different targets, same solution.

[MohRokTah]

62. Nope, no contact with anybody.

Compete isolation. No human contact. Live as a completely isolated hermit.

If you want to be that anti-social, the government should force you to go all the way.

End of discussion.

[HockeyMom]

92. Oh, don't dare the old lady

I have very left life at my age so do not threaten me. Throw Granny in your quarntine camp. REPEAT, I am an OLD WOMAN, without young children. I AM one of the people you sheep thinks you are protecting.

I speak out on this simply to show you that it is not only the Dr. Jenny young parents who you think you can threaten.

[MohRokTah]

93. Viaccinate or isolate.

Those are the only viable choices.

Make your choice.

I will fight for that to become federal law.

[HockeyMom]

95. Concentration Camp

Call it by it's real name, but it is the same. How about OVENS too?

[MohRokTah]

96. Do you wish to be a part of society or apart from society.

You don't get to have it both ways. If you wish to be a part of society, you MUST vaccinate.

Otherwise, society must force you to isolate. Refusal to vaccinate is a menace to society and society is completely justified in totally isolating those who refuse compliance.

[HockeyMom]

101. I do not wish to be a part of your Third Reich Society

March me off to your oven. Get it over with. Life is not worth living in your world. Maybe we need to leave the country and move to Germany. I really doubt that country would what you want America to be like.

However, you have no way of knowing who I am. Don't have young children. Don't have a job. Don't even have a doctor to report what I choose to do.

Do you want to call out the National Guard and surround the state borders stopping adult citizens from crossing state borders? Put them also in front of supermarkets, retail stores, etc., asking for Papers, Citizens?

Seriously. What you are calling for is Nazi Germany. The only difference is unvaccinated people and not Jews.

[MohRokTah]

102. Then you should be completely isolated.

You should have zero human contact because that is the only sensible solution to your selfish anti-social behavior.

Isolate you in a cell and no human ever touches or comes close to contacting you again.

Problem solved.

Or you could just get the damned shot that doesn't hurt anybody.

[HuckleB]

110. +1,000,000 ... 000

[HockeyMom]

41. More and more are doing so

However, they are still free to go out in public. Maybe they, and adults, need to wear armbands alerting the public to their vaccination status. Stay AWAY from unvaccinated me!!!!! Papers, Citizen?

This whole contagious disease thing is getting crazier and crazier.

[GoneOffShore]

50. You don't remember polio do you?

Or are you conveniently forgetting the kids in iron lungs, the closed swimming pools, the leg braces?

The contagious disease thing will get crazier until we as a society get over the unwarranted fear of immunizations.

[MohRokTah]

55. My brother nearly died from chickenpox

A kid in our town got brain damage from the measles.

Another kid died from rubella.

I remember the scary shit and I had a polio vaccine and we were always told polio was much worse.

[HockeyMom]

64. Actually no

Not even growing up in NYC, not a rural area, in the 50s. I also don't remember quarantine signs posted on apartment buildings for measles, mumps, etc.

[zappaman]

52. "This whole contagious disease thing is getting crazier and crazier."

Yes, who ever heard of such a thing as contagious diseases?

But I agree anti-vaxxers are more just plain fucking stupid than crazy.

[LynneSin]

89. Sorry this makes no sense

This is a disease that was all but eradicated and now we just let it grow rampant again because some parents read a misinformed paper and listened to an ex-playboy bunny for medical advice?

This is just common sense for vaccination and there is absolutely no proof that the vaccine does any harm other than research paper that was widely discredited as bad research. One reason we vaccinated everyone is because there are children out there who cannot be vaccinated because of immunity problems. But if everyone else has been immunized then these children have nothing to worry about. Now we are letting this thing become widespread and it's a joke because it is totally preventable.

[Vinca]

31. If Obama is "for" it, somehow Christie must be "against" it.

In any case, it's not like he doesn't have experience with public health HAVING ISOLATED THAT MAINE NURSE WHO DID NOT HAVE EBOLA IN A TENT IN A PARKING LOT AGAINST HER WILL.

[HockeyMom]

37. Don't give people any ideas

Get all your vaccinations recommended by CDC or we will put you TOO in Tent Cities.

[HockeyMom]

33. Mike Bloomberg

Sounds like on this issue they would love him as President.

[Rex]

36. Geez, it's amazing we are all not dead from decease. nt

nt

[Humanist_Activist]

39. Actually, we are, life is a terminal condition, after all, and we all end up deceased by the end.

Sorry, have to make fun of your misspelling.

[Rex]

61. LOL! Opps!

Yeah I guess we all do end up deceased at the end. Bummer.

[Warren Stupidity]

109. disease.

decease is the condition of being dead.

Tuberculosis, smallpox, polio, measles until recently, whooping cough until recently, diphtheria, typhus, cholera, yellow fever. All diseases that we either don't or shouldn't have to worry about because we eradicated them from the population through vaccination programs. All diseases that used to make people quite deceased on a regular basis.

The anti-vax clowns will be the fighting to cut in line for access to antivirals when the next pandemic strikes, 'cause its all about them.

[msanthrope]

40. Anti-vax politicians need birther treatment. We can defeat this asshole with scorn and laughter. n

[HockeyMom]

42. Hate to tell you this

but the vaccination issue goes across Party lines.

[msanthrope]

43. I know---but that's a good thing. Clearing out the "stupid" fringe on the Left

isn't a bug....it's a feature.

And by "stupid" I mean the anti-vaxxer assholes like RFK Jr, who ought to be ashamed of himself. With as much money as his family spent on his education.....

[zappaman]

58. +100

Being a complete and utter fucking moron can cut across both parties.

[mountain grammy]

81. He's a daily disappointment. Everyone's got at least one.

[stevenleser]

49. That's one way to reduce the amount of folks for whom you need to create jobs...

...maybe this is his plan to make the Presidency easier for himself in the unlikely event he wins it.

[NickB79]

82. Two words: Leper colonies

You want to endanger the life of my child and the lives of millions of others, pack your bags and move to a fucking island in the Pacific.

Enjoy your palm trees, ocean breezes, and crippling diseases far, far away from my family.

[NickB79]

83. I see that DU's anti-vaxxers are here standing up for Chris Christie of all people

It's eye-opening, really, to see them rallying to that rightwing piece of shit's defense.

[LynneSin]

90. Yep, sad isn't it

Think about it - this all started because some playboy bunny read a research paper that was widely discredited by just about every known expert in the field of childhood disease, autism and immunology.

But you know Obama said we should vaccinate our kids so probably best that Christie sides with the dumb bunny and the poor researcher.

[HockeyMom]

94. I don't give a crap about Christie

Would never vote for him for dog catcher, BUT this issue goes beyond Party Lines, with individuals from both parties on the same sides.

It is very much much a human rights/civil rights issue.

[HuckleB]

97. It's eye-opening, really, to see them rallying to support the return of diseases, as well.

[Ken Burch]

104. So...Christie is desperate to get Jenny McCarthy's endorsement?

[Chemisse]

107. Yes they should have the choice.

And they should choose vaccinations.

We don't need more laws governing our bodies. We need more science education so people can make intelligent choices.