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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Valentine's day sexist?
First, I think it is a made up bullshit holiday promoted to sell cards, candies, flowers and overpriced dinners.
But have you noticed all the commercials talk about what guys should get their gals.
Cause you gotta buy your best girl shit to keep her happy, or something.
Siwsan
(26,267 posts)Like most holidays. Which is why I don't bother with them. The most annoying are the "Hallmark Holidays" like 'Bosses Day', 'Sweetest Day', etc. I can't be bothered.
edhopper
(33,584 posts)can be celebrated in all the Churches that want to.
Valentin's Day is hogwash.
It is also very depressing for people who are alone (I am not, but still find it insipid)
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)I did not expect those that weren't to stop their celebrations because of me. I don't think celebrating love is hogwash.
edit to add - Maybe my husband and I will go see "50 Shades of Gray". That might be fun.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)"I already know that nobody likes me.
Why does there have to be a Valentine's Day to rub it in?"
What should happen then? Being alone on Valentine's Day didn't bother me.
I didn't get any birthday cards this year, therefore eliminate all birthdays!
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)to share with the whole class, nobody gets anything.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Then I grew up.
Siwsan
(26,267 posts)I do admit to buying heart shaped boxes of chocolates, when they go on clearance on Feb 15. Yum.
meow2u3
(24,764 posts)Valentine's Day has religious, namely Christian, origins. It was named for St. Valentine, a cleric who, according to legend, secretly presided over marriages in defiance of the decree issued by Roman Emperor Cladius II, which forbade marriages because the emperor thought single men made better soldiers than married men and those with families.
http://www.history.com/topics/valentines-day/history-of-valentines-day
http://www.americancatholic.org/features/valentinesday/origins.asp
a) a priest in the Roman Empire who helped persecuted Christians during the reign of Claudius II, was thrown in jail and later beheaded on Feb. 14.
b) a Catholic bishop of Terni who was beheaded, also during the reign of Claudius II.
c) someone who secretly married couples when marriage was forbidden, or suffered in Africa, or wrote letters to his jailer's daughter, and was probably beheaded.
d) all, some, or possibly none of the above.
If you guessed d), give yourself a box of chocolates. Although the mid-February holiday celebrating love and lovers remains wildly popular, the confusion over its origins led the Catholic Church, in 1969, to drop St. Valentine's Day from the Roman calendar of official, worldwide Catholic feasts. (Those highly sought-after days are reserved for saints with more clear historical record. After all, the saints are real individuals for us to imitate.) Some parishes, however, observe the feast of St. Valentine.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)to mean Love to everybody (not just lovers). I'm OK with it. Kind of festive in a bleak winter month. Chocolates all around...
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Yeah, it may be too commercialized. But that doesn't mean people have to run out and over-do it. I think every couple can decide for themselves how they celebrate that day.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)LOL
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)2naSalit
(86,646 posts)with penises I suppose.
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)raven mad
(4,940 posts)Both, to both of you!
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)Then I guess you'll maybe have to go Dutch!!
(Honestly, I'm not sure that was a consideration while commenting since I was not halfway through my first cup of coffee!)
No offense in tended! My thought was that BJs refer to penises so...
mythology
(9,527 posts)But I guess that solution doesn't solve the other half of that dilemma.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)Yes, it's a made up holiday but it's fun when you do have a partner. It's better when that partner remembers and doesn't have to be prodded.
I have given my husband some amazing V Day gifts and have gotten very little in return. This year...he may not get anything.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)And gentlemen, don't forget the flowers.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)for those of us who are not driven by commercialism/consumerism and those of us who don't have partners nor want to have them.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)The poor brainwashed fools. There needs to be a massive campaign to educate them that these are terrible commercialized things, and that you should NOT buy a woman cards, candies, flowers and overpriced dinners.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"here needs to be a massive campaign to educate them..."
You should get right on that and let us know of the progress in your righteous struggles to determine what baubles and keepsakes people should or should not buy for each other.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)I will need a nice office, some furniture, some assistants, some old and new media money, a lawyer, a lobbyist, an accountant, a PR specialist, and a Tesla to get around in (and a charging station for it at the office).
So how much can I put you down for this quarter? There is the "Lonely Hearts" level for $1,000, the "Love Stinks" level for $5,000, or the "Screw The Valentine Swine" level for $25,000!
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)And by the way.........................GALS??!!!! Really??!!!
KatyMan
(4,195 posts)Who cares what other people think of it? I think it's a great day for my wife and me to set aside time to go have a nice lunch or dinner, quaff some champagne and enjoy each others company. We're together all the time anyway, but this one day means we indulge in things we may not normally indulge in. It could be February 14th, it could be May 9th, it's arbitrary, but when in Rome, eh?
And "gals" .... no kidding. Way more sexist than Valentine's Day!
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)The holiday itself seems relatively benign as to gender roles. How you, or anyone else chooses to celebrate it or advertise it is no more the fault of the holiday than songs about the moon are the fault of the moon.
Yavin4
(35,441 posts)Having to buy your wife/girlfriend to prove your love is old fashioned patriarchy.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)My husband always gets an extravagant dinner from me. I cook all the time. Love it. But he knows he's getting filet mignon, lobster, his favorite fudge filled chocolate bundt cake.
My birthday is the 13th so he takes me to dinner.
We aren't hurting anyone by doing that. People don't like Valentine's day - then don't do it.
No two relationships are the same. The UnFuns can just go be UnFuns!
alarimer
(16,245 posts)In a genuine relationship, it shouldn't be necessary to make a big deal of Valentine's Day. And it shouldn't require expensive gifts or meals.
I've always suspected that people make a big deal of it when they are not so certain of their relationships.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)KatyMan
(4,195 posts)on V-day. Cards, a meal, whatever. It's nice. Maybe not a 'big deal', but why not pick a random day to do something special for your SO (other than birthday, anniversary, etc)? Might as well be Feb 14.
JI7
(89,251 posts)i would say the relationship is not that good in the first place if they view valentines day as needing to buy something to prove their love.
bobclark86
(1,415 posts)Check your relatio-privilege at the door!
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I still love Valentines Day. Then again, I also love giving. Can't wait to see his face this year. And to those who say you can do it any time of year, you are correct. You are also missing the concept of building anticipation and simply a special day for the two of us. Every day is a blessing between us, Valentines day is no more of a blessing. That's not to say it doesn't have its own build up of excitement.
KatyMan
(4,195 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)A big mac and sleeve job will do okay sorry !!!!
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)I have always absolutely hated it, but I still buy flowers. My wife really only cares about flowers on Valentine's Day, Mother's Day, and her birthday, so it's a small price to pay.