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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWith all the talk of vaccinating kids, lets not forget to vaccinate ourselves as well...
we are as much a vector for the spread of infectious diseases as children, so make sure you are caught up, following the recommendations of your doctor and CDC guidelines, here's a helpful PDF:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/downloads/adult/adult-schedule.pdf
ON EDIT: Remember, you are doing this as much for the health of others as for yourself, I got my booster and am caught up on my vaccines, make sure you are too. Hell, its free now.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Is there mistake in this? Let me see since I have had chicken pox, which the they say is already inside me, it can manifest as shingles. Get shingles shot to prevent getting and and spreading chicken pox.
But wait! since that chicken pox disease did not give any ANTIBODIES from having it, you now know need chicken pox vax TOO? Hey, about the MMR vax if you had those diseases 50 years ago!!!!! Cannot be any antibodies left after all the time either.
Will they come out next year and say that old ladies need Gardasil too????? Cannot be too careful on that one. All those OLD MEN with their VIAGRA!!!
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)and also doesn't care about anyone, including themselves, apparently, don't shit on this thread HockeyMom.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)extended all the way past 65 years old for chicken pox vax. No, I did not read that, but looked at THEIR CHART.
Silence opposition from people who don't agree with you? So DU and Democats don't want anti-vax party members? When was this put in the Party Platform?
Republicans say the a woman doesn't have the right of choice for her own body because there is another "person" she is harming. YET, you do not realize YOU are saying the same thing? You have no choice because it will affect another person. It is the same thing only for different causes.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)Stop spreading shit and claiming its Nutella.
Oh, and don't fucking bring up that bullshit comparison you just did.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)over something like this? Seriously? Again, this issue goes beyond party politics. Put in the the platform if you think it is that important. I really doubt that is ever going to happen.
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)knows no party line, sadly.
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)It doesn't even make sense - beyond the clear indication that you have no idea what you are talking about.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)genealogy website all the time, don't tell me vaccinations are anything but beneficial:
Joseph/John/Maryann/Gasper/and/Edith/children of Stephen and Mary Ribordy
A little child of Steve Ribordy died a few days since.
Diphtheria was the cause.
Manitowoc Lake Shore Times Tuesday, October 16, 1883, pg. 2
This one we haven't found references to the other
children yet.
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JAN ZAHORIK, PETR ZAHORIK, MARIE ZAHORIK
John Zahorick of Gibson, lost three children last week of diptheria.
Manitowoc Lake Shore Times Tuesday, October 16, 1883, pg. 2
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Genealogist also, but this comes direct from my Nana and Mom.What did they call his death? Crib death. What we call SIDS today. He was a twin and my Mom was 6 years old. You can just look at the pictures of the identical twins and see the difference. Antonio was frail in comparison to his brother from birth.
Nana put the twins to bed in the crib one night. Next morning his brother Sal was trying to wake up his dead brother. Was he sick with a contagious childhood diseases? No. Was his twin sick in the same crib? No. Was my 6 year old Mom. No. What Mom said was that her brother Antonio was not like her brother Sal. Sal was always trying to play with her and keep up with her. Antonio just sat and watched them. Because he was so much sicker? Mom, old enough to remember, said that none of them had any of those childhood diseases until a lot older. Antonio did not die from that. If it was some childhood contagious disease, why did his twin in the same crib not catch it? Why didn't my Mom either? While these childhood vax weren't around back then, penicillin certainly was. At any rate thermometers were and a parent back then would know if a child had a fever and was sick. None of that applied to Antonio.
Point? Could modern medicine has kept Antonio alive today?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Yes.
Immunity to many diseases is not lifelong. Chicken pox can re-manifest itself as your immune system ages in the form of shingles. Getting the vaccine can refresh your immunity and prevent shingles.
You should note the word "many" in the paragraph above. Many does not mean all.
Additionally, there's some indications an MMR booster may be required later in life, just like a chicken pox booster. We'll see where the science goes.
Pharmaceutical companies don't want you to get vaccines. They get 10 to 1000 times more money treating the disease. A flu shot gets them a buck or two. You drinking NyQuil for a week gets them $10-20. Treating shingles makes them much more. Measles is a gold mine.
It's one of the difficulties in developing new vaccines. It's hard to get for-profit companies to fund research into new vaccines because it hurts the bottom line in the end.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)you've never had shingles or have had a family member or friend with shingles. If you had, you wouldn't be spreading this incredible nonsense. It's a horrible experience.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Although I see this thread is already polluted.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)I'll book mark this thread, and check with my doctor.
dissentient
(861 posts)I think I'm probably typical of the average guy, and was vaccinated as a child, and then didn't get any further vaccinations until very recently, when I got a tetanus booster shot, and only because a dog bit me.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)Varicella vaccine is useless, I should get the Shingles vaccine when I get older though.
Most of these many people got as children, or as a last booster as a teenager, I talked to my doctor, they said the TDap(top) one should be the one you get boosters for, if you have a proven record of childhood and adolescent vaccinations.
madokie
(51,076 posts)a few months ago I'd be in a full blown flu sick right now rather than just not feeling well as I have the last few days.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)you do it for yourself and for others, and its all about reducing risk for both.
madokie
(51,076 posts)and so I didn't spend much time around kids. The girl I married, I should have married her when we first met, when I got home from 'nam but I was too fucked up at the time. Anyways by the time we finally do get back together she was fresh from a divorce and with two boys, 8 and 15 yo. That first year we were together I think I spent most of it sick from one thing then the other. The boys would be exposed to something at school and bring it home to me, thanks guys. Anyways my resistance was low due to the fact I wasn't around sick people much. I do the flu shot every year now that I'm getting long of tooth and all. and am damn glad I did this year.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I'm trying to convince my doctor to let me have the shingles vaccination early since my mother and my younger brother have both had shingles.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)apparently, really bad stress can cause some immunosuppression? So she had an outbreak, it wasn't too bad, but she suffered from mild palsy and numbness for weeks.
I felt guilty because I was the one who gave her chickenpox when I was around 6 or 7, she was an infant at the time.
central scrutinizer
(11,652 posts)I get the flu shot every year and Tdap last year
progressoid
(49,991 posts)Ykcutnek
(1,305 posts)The last vaccines I had was in 6th grade, I believe. 26, almost 27 now.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)and see what they would recommend, you may only need TDap for right now, depending.
meow2u3
(24,764 posts)Flu shot? Check.
DT shot? In 2009, when I was scratched by a shelter cat when I volunteered at the SPCA in Philly.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)It was 6 mos before the ACA kicked in for everyone, so I couldn't get it treated. It was so awful with coughing, my students were vocally worried about my health.
I got a T-Dapp this year and flu shot. Never again.