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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 02:42 PM Feb 2015

Americans are failing to pump gas-price savings back into the economy

Americans are failing to pump gas-price savings back into the economy

Americans are taking the money they are saving at the gas pump and socking it away, a sign of consumers’ persistent caution even when presented with an unexpected windfall.

This newfound commitment to frugality was illustrated this past week when the nation’s biggest payment-card companies said they aren’t seeing evidence consumers are putting their gasoline savings toward discretionary items like travel, home renovations and electronics.

Instead, people are more often putting the money aside for a rainy day or using it to pay down debt. That more Americans are saving their bounty at the pump comes as a surprise, because the personal savings rate, after rising during and after the recession, has declined steadily over the past two years.

“We haven’t seen the extra savings from lower gas prices translate into additional discretionary consumer spending,” said Ajay Banga, chief executive of MasterCard Inc., on a conference call Friday to discuss quarterly earnings.

Saving it for a rainy day, eh? Good idea, cause it's going to be raining high gas prices again before you know it!
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Americans are failing to pump gas-price savings back into the economy (Original Post) GliderGuider Feb 2015 OP
Actually, invested it Kelvin Mace Feb 2015 #1
We bought a used 2004 Prius for $6000. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2015 #25
Used BEVs, hybrids Kelvin Mace Feb 2015 #27
They talked about this on NPR this morning. If you save, you're not helping the economy; if you Brickbat Feb 2015 #2
Since they lost about $30K in assets, I'd guess they're trying to build that back up, pay off bills, ND-Dem Feb 2015 #3
it's my opinion too!! n/t Sheepshank Feb 2015 #17
It's as if people know that wealth inequality is at an all time high or something. Rex Feb 2015 #4
Yes, people are still recovering from the horrific Bush recession. nt tridim Feb 2015 #5
Believe me, I would LOVE to spend that "windfall" on all annabanana Feb 2015 #6
^^^THIS^^^ Lochloosa Feb 2015 #7
Employers are failing to pump enough into economy. Orsino Feb 2015 #8
And we have our thread winner. Brigid Feb 2015 #20
+1 leftstreet Feb 2015 #30
This same mindset happened after the Great DEPRESSION. People save and it brought on a whole uponit7771 Feb 2015 #9
Reminds me of an episode of the West Wing... iandhr Feb 2015 #10
Gas is low (right now) but everything else continues to go up...groceries...rent....nt raccoon Feb 2015 #11
bingo marions ghost Feb 2015 #23
That $5/wk really pumps a lot back in my case hobbit709 Feb 2015 #12
When the cost of everything goes up except gas, there won't be much left. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #13
For many people, paying off credit card debt is the best thing to do (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2015 #14
I'm putting the $5.00 I've saved toward the $200 I have to LibDemAlways Feb 2015 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2015 #16
since i went back to working at 'real' job 13 mos ago, my spare money went to paying off my CC KG Feb 2015 #18
Hopefully they're saving it for when gas rebounds and jumps to $6 a gallon nichomachus Feb 2015 #19
My gas bill went down $20, but my rent went up $17 this year. alarimer Feb 2015 #21
Frugality and savings aren't bad things. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #22
Well, given that 47% of Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck Art_from_Ark Feb 2015 #24
And some of us aren't interested in 2naSalit Feb 2015 #26
Probably because most Americans are not saving anything. dilby Feb 2015 #28
Save your money in a place where the upper 1% can't get to it. Initech Feb 2015 #29
Can't save or put it back into the economy with pleasure purchases bigwillq Feb 2015 #31
I've been seeing that in my recent visits to the US Art_from_Ark Feb 2015 #32
who are they fucking kidding Skittles Feb 2015 #33
Just remember that Heywood J Feb 2015 #34
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
27. Used BEVs, hybrids
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:51 PM
Feb 2015

and PHEVs are the way to go. The first two years will lop off about 60% of the car's price.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
2. They talked about this on NPR this morning. If you save, you're not helping the economy; if you
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 02:45 PM
Feb 2015

spend, you're being a dumbass who isn't thinking of your future. To hear the media tell it, anyway.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
3. Since they lost about $30K in assets, I'd guess they're trying to build that back up, pay off bills,
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 02:46 PM
Feb 2015

and the like.

They also are faced with declining wages.

Nr. MasterCard Ajay Banga: if you want 'additional discretionary consumer spending,' give us more jobs, higher wage jobs, and tax the rich to create jobs.

Banga is Indian-born & educated, an example of the new globalized corporate elite, BTW. And they're not going to do anything to create higher wages for americans -- or anyone else, really except themselves.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. It's as if people know that wealth inequality is at an all time high or something.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 02:47 PM
Feb 2015

And that they are losing money daily to the owners and never getting it back. That we have less money to spend than we did 40 years ago. As if people read and watch the news.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
6. Believe me, I would LOVE to spend that "windfall" on all
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 03:12 PM
Feb 2015

kinds of durable goods, vacations trips, etc etc etc..

And as soon as I get dug out from the credit card bills, and all the other debt incurred when 30% of my assets went POOF.. I will go on a spree the likes of which hasn't been seen since the 50"s.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
9. This same mindset happened after the Great DEPRESSION. People save and it brought on a whole
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 03:39 PM
Feb 2015

.. .new generation of non consumers that help spring (IMHO) the civil rights eras because people weren't worried about their crap.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
10. Reminds me of an episode of the West Wing...
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 03:46 PM
Feb 2015

… where Bartlett helps Charlie file his tax returns. It turns out he owed money because of the pervious years tax refund. Charlie used it to pay his credit card bill. Bartlett said they hoped inject money into to tourism and retail.


Charlie asks "we don't want people to save or pay down personal debt" the President says "we do when the next guy is president"

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
13. When the cost of everything goes up except gas, there won't be much left.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 04:08 PM
Feb 2015

Rent increases alone in the area I am at are well outside of the decrease in fuel costs.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
15. I'm putting the $5.00 I've saved toward the $200 I have to
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 04:51 PM
Feb 2015

pay my dentist each month for all the work I put off when my husband lost his job. i now have dental insurance which is a joke and covers very little. Just another way of screwing over the 99ers.

Response to GliderGuider (Original post)

KG

(28,751 posts)
18. since i went back to working at 'real' job 13 mos ago, my spare money went to paying off my CC
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 04:55 PM
Feb 2015

and now it's going to build up a saving acct again. in a year or so, might start spending 'discretionarly'...

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
19. Hopefully they're saving it for when gas rebounds and jumps to $6 a gallon
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 04:57 PM
Feb 2015

The head of OPEC said the other day that once this artificial price drop is over, he expects oil to go to $200 a barrel.

They've got to make up lost revenue some way.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
21. My gas bill went down $20, but my rent went up $17 this year.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:04 PM
Feb 2015

So I could spend those $3, but what would be the point?

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
24. Well, given that 47% of Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:12 PM
Feb 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026155006

it's not surprising that they aren't going out and squandering the few dollars they're getting from this "windfall".

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
26. And some of us aren't interested in
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:34 PM
Feb 2015

feeding the corporate/capitalist beast anymore even IF we had the $$$. I resent being categorized as consumer and do whatever I can to avoid such activity as to be thought of as such.

Screw capitalism and corporations, I'll do what I please with my $$ which only is enough to pay most but not all of my bills.

As it is, I can only go to the dentist once every few years and I am still paying for the last visit. And I need glasses, since about ten years ago. I had to spend more than half or my summer wages paying back everyone I borrowed money from to survive for the two years prior.

Don't buy the PR of not putting your earnings/savings back into the economy, especially where corporations are trying to guilt trip you about your money they want to coerce you into sending their way.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
28. Probably because most Americans are not saving anything.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:54 PM
Feb 2015

They are just not going deeper into debt like they were with the old gas prices.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
31. Can't save or put it back into the economy with pleasure purchases
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 06:19 PM
Feb 2015

Because everything else is so expensive.
We might be saving on gas right now, but the price of everything else seems to be going up, up, up.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
32. I've been seeing that in my recent visits to the US
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 08:17 PM
Feb 2015

The spices I used to buy for 50 cents a jar are now 88 cents. The cereal I used to buy for $2.00 a box is now more than $2.50 a box. The Asiago cheese I bought for $3.99 a wedge is now $4.99 a wedge. Fruit of the Looms are $6.99 for a 5-piece set, as opposed to $5.99 before. Home heating is going up, household and car repairs are going up, health care is going up, and on and on.

Heywood J

(2,515 posts)
34. Just remember that
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 09:20 AM
Feb 2015

these are the same dipsticks who want to "adjust" interest rates so that we keep the "right" level of inflation, lest prices ever stop skyrocketing for a while. Gotta maintain that 15% real inflation.

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