Jeb Bush is already toast in Iowa: Poll

[DonViejo]

There's a new front runner in Iowa -- and it's not the expected favorite
SALON STAFF

Jeb Bush has some work to do in Iowa. The former Florida governor, and the 2016 favorite of the GOP’s establishment and Wall Street class, is struggling in a new poll, with favorability and unfavorability numbers roughly even.

There’s also a surprising front-runner on the move. That’s Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, riding a wave of energy off a well-received speech last weekend at a “freedom” conference sponsored by Rep. Steve King.

And there’s bad news for Chris Christie below, who has the highest negatives of any Republican in the poll.

Here are the results of the latest Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register poll:

Scott Walker: 15 percent
Rand Paul: 14 percent
Mitt Romney: 13 percent
Mike Huckabee: 10 percent
Ben Carson: 9 percent
Jeb Bush: 8 percent
Ted Cruz: 5 percent
Rick Santorum: 4 percent
Chris Christie: 4 percent
Marco Rubio: 3 percent
Rick Perry: 3 percent
Bobby Jindal: 2 percent
Carly Fiorina: 1 percent
John Kasich: 1 percent:
Donald Trump: 1 percent

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http://www.salon.com/2015/02/01/jeb_bush_is_already_toast_in_iowa_poll/

[mylye2222]

1. No more Bushes.... please!

[Art_from_Ark]

3. I'll second that motion

Even his mom thinks that we've had enough Bushes.

[3catwoman3]

7. And his mom...

...is right. Listen to your mama, Jeb!

[hifiguy]

19. EVER.

That entire family should be extirpated root and branch from the US political system. and in perpetuity.

[AlinPA]

2. I think the Iowa GOP voterswill go with Huckabee in the primaries. He says "Jesus" and "God" a lot.

[TheCowsCameHome]

12. So do I, whenever he appears in the news.

[StevieM]

25. I had originally thought that too, but now I am thinking that he will be more like Gephardt in 2004.

Gephardt won the caucuses in 1988, but in 2004 he came in fourth place and dropped out. I think Huckabee will take 4th after Walker, Bush and Paul and then exit the race.

Huckabee can't raise money. Besides, the religious right wants a tea party guy, or at least a de facto tea party guy.

[lpbk2713]

4. Jebbie ... just a word of advice.

Your last name is Bush. Forget about it.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

5. After reading that list, all I can do is repeat Brad Pitt's line in the film Troy

"IS THERE NO ONE ELSE?"

[KamaAina]

6. Watch out for Walker

The combination of his far-right views and the Kochs' billion could be deadly.

[marions ghost]

10. Walker is the Koch's fave

most likely.

Jeb can fugetaboutit.

[AngryAmish]

22. You are exactly right.

He is not stupid. He had a winning persona. He knows exactly how the electorate is divided and how to maximize his votes. He has been under investigation for years and nothing has stuck yet - but keep trying!

Hillary v Walker. And I think Walker wins.

[Initech]

26. We are all doomed if that happens.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

28. +11111 Walker has the Koch money and HATES unions and MOST Americans do to

Most Americans I think, 51% or more, dont trust unions and think they are the problem.

[3catwoman3]

8. There is not a single person on that list...

...whose name does not fill me with dread.

When I try to think of a Republican I could tolerate, the only name that comes to mind is John Huntsman.

[hifiguy]

20. Yup. And you saw what happened to him in '12.

Immediately crushed by the crazy bus.

Beady-eyed shitweasel Walker scares me. He's a wholly-owned creature of the Kochtopus.

[LittleBlue]

9. It's too early for that

First, a poll has to be taken without Romney.

[stevenleser]

11. I've been telling folks, the GOP electorate DOES NOT WANT JEB.

They're going to try to pull out all the stops, hire the best ground folks in Iowa and other states, spend a ton of money, it won't help.

[sadoldgirl]

14. Seems to me

that they did not want Romney either, but the party
elite got him nominated anyway.

As bad as it looks for him right now, with the right
connections and Wall Street, I think that he will be
nominated.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

16. Four years before that, I don't think they wanted McCain either

[Drunken Irishman]

31. They also didn't want Dole in 96 or Bush in 92.

[Blue Owl]

13. Toast, Grilled Cheese, and Breadbags

That's code for Jeb Bu$h, Scott Walker, and Joni Ernst...

[JI7]

15. Romney isn't running so his numbers are most likely to go to Jeb

Jeb's chances are based on being the establishment candidate while the rest of them split the vote.

it's how romney won the nomination last time.

[DCBob]

21. yep.

[stillwaiting]

32. This is exactly what I was going to post. I completely agree.

Jeb's numbers will rise if the poll doesn't include Romney.

[MohRokTah]

17. Bush won't even compete in Iowa.

It's better visuals to concede it to the crazies than to try to compete there.

Remember, Pat Robertson did better than George H.W. Bush in Iowa, and Dole took the caucuses. Bush's brother took it in 2000, but he talked the god shit well and Iowa Republican go in for that sort of grifting. It'll be difficult for a Catholic to match a Huckabee, Walker, or a Cruz there.

[n2doc]

18. Only 2 times in the last 35 years has the non-incumbent repub winner gone on to win the nomination

Not including when incumbents ran for re-election, like Reagan and W.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucuses#Republicans

Not a great indicator one way or the other.

[madville]

23. Iowa hasn't meant much for Republicans lately

Ron Paul and Rick Santorum beat Romney there in 2012.

Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney, and Fred Thompson beat McCain there in 2008.

Jeb being in 3rd or 4th place means nothing at this point and he isn't even campaigning there as far as I know, because frankly, Iowa doesn't mean much to some Republican front runners because it doesn't indicate what the larger states will do, the ones that really matter.

It is good publicity for an underdog to do well there of course.

[DCBob]

24. That poll indicates its wide open.

Nobody is toast when the top candidate only has 15%.

[Vinca]

27. I wonder if SNL will need a casting call for the debates.

That list is comedy gold.

[TheNutcracker]

29. Remember John Kerry was at 6% in Iowa until he fired Jim Jordan and 'retooled'....the Read Deal.

[TheNutcracker]

30. PS, it's too early in such a fluid process to call anyone toast. Especially one with the name Bush.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

33. 14 in the clown car to start