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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:12 PM Feb 2015

Obama Won't Disclose Spy Agency Budgets

Resisting a campaign for greater transparency, the White House has decided to keep American taxpayers in the dark about how much they’re likely to spend on government spy agencies.

President Barack Obama unveiled his fiscal 2016 budget requests Monday with the continued omission of proposed spending levels for specific intelligence agencies, which are funded with a so-called “black budget” supplement debated and voted upon behind closed doors by congressional appropriators.

Last year, dozens of members of Congress asked Obama to voluntarily disclose the dollar amount requested for individual spy agencies, pressing for more democratic decision-making as a check against potential waste and arguing limited transparency would not harm national security. Sixty-two members signed onto legislation that would have forced the disclosure.

Rep. Peter Welch, D-Vt., one of the effort’s leaders, calls the non-disclosure "a missed opportunity for transparency and rebuilding public confidence in the intelligence community."

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http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/02/02/black-budget-requests-remain-secret

Of course, he's no different from his predecessors on this.

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MOST TRANSPARENT PRESIDENCY EVER!!!!111!11!!!1 woo me with science Feb 2015 #2
Give the con man his dues. SamKnause Feb 2015 #4
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+1 And he wil be followed by the next one, woo me with science Feb 2015 #9
This post really should be an Original Post Ramses Feb 2015 #18
He's no different than his SamKnause Feb 2015 #3
Whenever the people are well informed, they can be trusted with their own government Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #5
^^^^^^^ woo me with science Feb 2015 #8
Kick. This is important. woo me with science Feb 2015 #7
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That is frightening Ramses Feb 2015 #17
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Geez, ya don't think there might be a pretty good reason for that, do ya? Major Hogwash Feb 2015 #20

Response to n2doc (Original post)

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
2. MOST TRANSPARENT PRESIDENCY EVER!!!!111!11!!!1
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:30 PM
Feb 2015

What a load of lying horseshit.

I want to see the budgets for propagandizing the American people, too. From the smear campaigns and the MSM propaganda, down to the brigades of lying, insulting fake personas on the internet. Representing the citizens, my ass. We are lied to and manipulated as a matter of daily routine now. This ostensibly democratic, representative nation has sunk to the level of any cheap, exploitative totalitarian state in its utter contempt for its own citizens.


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The Bait and Switch
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026164464

Twenty Pounds of BS in a Ten-Pound Bag
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026123287

Lies upon lies upon lies
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6165449

The Democratic Party's Deceitful Game":
They are willing to bravely support any progressive action as long as there's no chance it can pass.
http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/


Obama taps "cognitive infiltrator" Cass Sunstein for Committee to create "trust" in NSA:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023512796

Editor of major German newspaper says he planted stories for CIA
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026163872

Salon: Obama confidant’s spine-chilling proposal: Cass Sunstein wants the government to "cognitively infiltrate" anti-government groups
http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

The US government's online campaigns of disinformation, manipulation, and smear.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024560097

Snowden: ‘Training Guide’ for GCHQ, NSA Agents Infiltrating and Disrupting Alternative Media Online
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/02/25/snowden-training-guide-for-gchq-nsa-agents-infiltrating-and-disrupting-alternative-media-online/

The influx of corporate propaganda-spouting posters is blatant and unnatural.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3189367

U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News To Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023262111

The goal of the propaganda assaults across the internet is not to convince anyone of anything.*
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023359801

The government figured out sockpuppet management but not "persona management."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023358242

The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4159454

Seventeen techniques for truth suppression.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4249741

Just do some Googling on astroturfing - big organizations have some sophisticated tools.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1208351





SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
4. Give the con man his dues.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:34 PM
Feb 2015

He conned the country and the world.

He conned me.

Hope and Change my ass.

Transparency what a joke.

Response to SamKnause (Reply #4)

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
9. +1 And he wil be followed by the next one,
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 09:23 PM
Feb 2015

if we cannot find a way to hurl ourselves into the corruption machine.

 

Ramses

(721 posts)
18. This post really should be an Original Post
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 10:15 PM
Feb 2015

in General Discussion. It shows the level of depravity and propaganda that the United States has become. America has done some evil shit, and only now am I realizing that we have been doing it for many decades. We are not the good guys, it seems.

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
3. He's no different than his
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:31 PM
Feb 2015

predecessors on many things.

Hope and Change my ass.

Transparency what a joke.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
5. Whenever the people are well informed, they can be trusted with their own government
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 05:36 PM
Feb 2015
Whenever the people are well informed, they can be trusted with their own government; that whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights.

 Thomas Jefferson

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Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
20. Geez, ya don't think there might be a pretty good reason for that, do ya?
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 02:54 AM
Feb 2015

I mean, should we hold séances to figure out what the CIA is going to do next?

Good luck with that!!!



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