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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe ending of the 2000 Super Bowl.
Many Super Bowls have been decided in the last minute. The Buffalo Bills lost a Super Bowl by a missed field goal. Other (I think the Patriots at least once) have won on a last second field goal.
My only point here is that many great coaching decisions lead both teams to the Super Bowl. As Russell Wilson said, you don't let it define your career. As Marshawn Lynch said, we play as a team. Obviously looking back, the decision to pass the ball was not a good one. But two things. First, The Patriots made a fantastic play. They were the better team. They won the Super Bowl. Second, it was not the worst play call in history. Many shitty play calls have been made many times, over and over, by teams that never had winning seasons, never played in the playoffs, never got their team in a position to even be close to winning a Super Bowl.
Here's the dramatic footage. In 2000 The Rams won. The Tennessee Titans were stopped at the one yard line. The Rams were the better team that day. The Titans were a great team too.
aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)Given a good running back and 3 chances to punch it in from the 1 yard line.
It wasn't just that it wasn't executed well although it could have been thrown better
That last play should and will define Carroll and, to a lesser extent, Wilson. It will go down as the stupidest call in the history of Super Bowls.
Bandit
(21,475 posts)I was flabbergasted, as were all the announcers.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I was stunned when it occurred. And I probably agree with you that with that much on the line, it was the biggest mistake of a call I've ever seen in a Super Bowl. I'd also suggest though that many other coaches have been out-coached by the end of the first quarter, and their team gets blown out.
I don't think it should define Carroll's entire career. It doesn't to him. He coached a young team to the Super Bowl two years in a row. They won one of them.
Belicheck's team lost two Super Bowls to the Giants. Do we define a coach who has coached at the highest levels of his sport by one call? I guess some do, especially on Monday after the game. I don't.
No doubt if you had money riding on the game, it's horrendous & disappointing. To anyone who didn't bet, why would it matter that much? Other than second-guessing and bar conversations? I doubt many coaches at any level would define him by one bad call. Most would like to have a Super Bowl ring, and to appear there two years in a row.
Anyway, I thought it's pretty cool to see the footage of 2000 Rams Super Bowl win.
aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)And just as a refresher on what became of that great kicker, Scott Norwood, that missed a superbowl winning field goal for the buffalo bills? (I say great as he was the franchises leading scorer at that time)....
"After the Bills waived him [before the next season started], Norwood initially returned home to northern Virginia and disappeared completely from the public eye for a number of years, eventually becoming an insurance salesman through the 1990s before returning to Buffalo as a real estate agent in 2002"
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Scott Norwood from what I've read was indeed a very good kicker. Russell Wilson has a ring. He's not a kicker. He has already said it doesn't define him. I take him at his word on that.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)There are no guarantees in life. None.
They called the play, it got picked off by a very eager Patriots player. It's done.
Someone got my point!
As much as I hate saying it, I think it's fair to say that yesterday the better coach won. I think the clock management, and also Bellicheck (and the Patriot's ability to maybe come back and kick a field goal to win the game) got inside Carroll's head.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Brady was our QB at UM and our nickname for him was the "comeback kid". Seattle failed to stop him. He brought it back to where it was anyone's game and the chips went the Pats way.
Seattle fans should be happy they were there to have the chance to make a go at a second Super Bowl win. I remember the days when Seattle sucked.
Seahawks had a 14 point lead in second half. They got outplayed. I was surprised Michaels & Collinsworth weren't pointing it out much sooner. It was like they were asleep during much of the second half. Maybe they ate too much at halftime.
aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)In 2014 Marshawn had 1 fumble in 280 attempts.
In 2014 Russell had 7 interceptions out of 480 attempts.
Do the math. Russel wax 9 times more likely to throw an interception than Marshawn was to fumble.