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All the salty around here over the Pats Super Bowl/Brady MVP... (Original Post) WilliamPitt Feb 2015 OP
When the Seattle cornerback intercepted Brady in the first quarter, what is his name, NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #1
Jeremy Lane Dyedinthewoolliberal Feb 2015 #3
Lane, right. SEattle wins if he doesnt get hurt, IMO NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #4
Oh, please. Really? onenote Feb 2015 #12
And again, I am FAR from the only one talking about what a huge hole his absence left NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #13
The announcers are paid to create drama onenote Feb 2015 #29
Irrelevent AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #21
... Electric Monk Feb 2015 #2
+1000000 ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #5
+10001 nt steve2470 Feb 2015 #9
exactly! uppityperson Feb 2015 #11
Some have reason to cheer Go Vols Feb 2015 #23
As a Seahawks fan LittleBlue Feb 2015 #6
That is what I was thinking, though I have been assured here at DU That I am full of it NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #15
Yes LittleBlue Feb 2015 #18
Ahh, so I was right...thought so NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #19
I wonder if he makes it to august zipplewrath Feb 2015 #27
well Seatlle has a history hfojvt Feb 2015 #44
I actually didn't see the interception until the replay Marrah_G Feb 2015 #33
But... pipi_k Feb 2015 #38
No, it couldn't LittleBlue Feb 2015 #45
nothing worse than a poor winner KT2000 Feb 2015 #7
I think that's typical for the OP adigal Feb 2015 #8
It's the cheater accusation that makes so many want to rub it in. NutmegYankee Feb 2015 #28
I think it's more related to Spygate. lovemydog Feb 2015 #41
I bet pipi_k Feb 2015 #42
Say good night to the bad guy pintobean Feb 2015 #49
Want a tissue? Marrah_G Feb 2015 #34
Seattle fans are going through their "Bill Buckner Moment" Submariner Feb 2015 #10
... napkinz Feb 2015 #14
Heartbreak Submariner Feb 2015 #16
I like the watch named after you, but when that play happened I just stared, i could NOT believe NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #20
Love that shirt! mountain grammy Feb 2015 #40
I was thrilled for Butler...and what a nice kid! Marrah_G Feb 2015 #35
I feel for them, I really do.. mountain grammy Feb 2015 #43
other people's disgust with a bad play in a sports event gives you joy? uppityperson Feb 2015 #17
After the last two weeks, I have to be honest and say...yup, it does! Marrah_G Feb 2015 #36
+1!!!!!!!!!!!!! Takket Feb 2015 #22
As I've come to better understand these past years how repub voters think of politics, I've... Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2015 #24
CHEATERS!!!! gopiscrap Feb 2015 #25
U mad bro? Marrah_G Feb 2015 #37
Yes gopiscrap Feb 2015 #46
Here is a tissue Marrah_G Feb 2015 #47
someone mentioned Cheetos ? olddots Feb 2015 #26
Butler showed some amazing hustle and determination. roamer65 Feb 2015 #30
All the bitching in the world cannot take away the joy of that interception! Marrah_G Feb 2015 #31
I don't mind sore losers. It's understandable. lovemydog Feb 2015 #32
WGAF melman Feb 2015 #39
I guess they had to give it to HappyMe Feb 2015 #48

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
1. When the Seattle cornerback intercepted Brady in the first quarter, what is his name,
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 07:22 PM
Feb 2015

I yelled at the TV, lay down, dont risk a fumble or an injury.

His leaving the game was a HUGE difference in the outcome.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,577 posts)
3. Jeremy Lane
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 07:58 PM
Feb 2015

is the players name.
Will, I made more or less the same bet with Oberliner which is why his name is mentioned in my sig line. Being a native of Michigan, having Brady win his 4th SB is ok with me on a certain level.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
12. Oh, please. Really?
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 08:26 PM
Feb 2015

Jeremy Lane played in 7 regular season games this year. He only started one. He made a total of 13 tackles (solo or assists) and had no interceptions.

Yeah, his absence is the reason the Seahawks lost.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
13. And again, I am FAR from the only one talking about what a huge hole his absence left
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 08:27 PM
Feb 2015

Like the announcers on NBC who know more about it than I do, assume more than you but maybe not...

onenote

(42,714 posts)
29. The announcers are paid to create drama
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 10:48 PM
Feb 2015

Of course they'd make a big deal out of someone going out with an injury. But the New England defensive backfield has three pro-bowlers and Lane isn't one of them. His interception in the first quarter was his first interception in his three years in the league. Yeah, Simon was picked on. But there is no reason to think Lane would have been significantly better. The problem for the Seahawks is that they played man-to-man and Brady picked them apart.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
23. Some have reason to cheer
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 08:44 PM
Feb 2015
More people bet on the Super Bowl than any event in American sports. The total amount of money on the line worldwide is counted not in millions, but billions.


http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/31/7923869/super-bowl-2015-betting-prop-bets-gambling-wager-nfl
 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
6. As a Seahawks fan
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 08:05 PM
Feb 2015

I'm not even mad. Hard to get mad when the damage was self-inflicted.

You rightly took advantage of our mentally defective offensive coordinator. You 100% deserved the win for being smarter.


NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
15. That is what I was thinking, though I have been assured here at DU That I am full of it
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 08:29 PM
Feb 2015

but I saw that pass play for the final touchdown to be absolutely awful...

is that what you are referring to?

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
18. Yes
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 08:33 PM
Feb 2015

As Emmitt Smith rightly points out, the "dumbest play in NFL history"

That play is a wound that will never heal. A lot of Seahawks fans have hated Bevell for years because he's incompetent. We see it every week. Came back to bite us in the most crushing way.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
27. I wonder if he makes it to august
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 10:02 PM
Feb 2015

Truth is the play calling in the first half, well at least first quarter and much of the second, was strange at best. Carroll took the blame, but I'd bet Bevell may take the brunt.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
44. well Seatlle has a history
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 12:06 AM
Feb 2015

"we want the ball and we're gonna score"

Then there was NFC championship game Seattle vs. Chicago. Game is tied, Seattle is almost in field goal range. In the penultimate play, Hasselbeck just kind of freezes and takes a sack, the field goal is missed, Seattle loses in overtime. I swear he had a clear running lane. If he had just taken off he could have gained five yards instead of losing a dozen. Gove the kicker another ten yards and he'd likely have made that field goal.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
33. I actually didn't see the interception until the replay
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 11:31 PM
Feb 2015

I had my hands over my face because I knew Seattle was going to run the ball in....even if the whole team had to shove him over the line.... What on earth was that coach thinking?

The game was so close, so exciting. They played great. Seattle has ZERO to feel bad about (except maybe the guy that tried to punch Gronk).

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
38. But...
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 11:40 PM
Feb 2015

If the pass strategy had worked, the whole discussion would be moot.

It would have been a brilliant move otherwise, right?


Any play can turn into a stinker, and any play can be absolute genius.


You just never know...

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
45. No, it couldn't
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 12:10 AM
Feb 2015

You can try any low percentage play and say afterwards "but if it had succeeded".

In fact, it's a great excuse to ignore percentages. If it succeeds, he's a genius. If it fails, if it had succeeded he'd be a genius.

Running a crossing route into a packed defense is a low percentage, high risk play. Like Emmitt said, even if it had succeeded, it was still dumb because it ignored percentages and situations.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
28. It's the cheater accusation that makes so many want to rub it in.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 10:17 PM
Feb 2015

Frankly, I'd like to use more salt as the grinding compound with an industrial buffer.

BTW:



New details have surfaced in the NFL’s investigation into whether or not the New England Patriots cheated in the AFC Championship game by using deflated footballs. According to NFL Network’s Ian Rappoport, previous reports of 11 of 12 footballs being under-inflated by two pounds are incorrect — a detail first reported by ESPN’s Chris Mortensen.

Rappoport reports that 11 of 12 footballs were deflated; however, many of those footballs were under-inflated by a “few ticks” under the minimum 12.5 PSI mark. One of the footballs was two pounds under the 12.5 PSI mark. He also says that an elderly man in charge of bringing the footballs to the field went into a bathroom for 98 seconds. There is video of the man entering and exiting the bathroom.

Rappoport also says that both Bill Belichick and Tom Brady were truthful when they said they have no knowledge of what happens with the footballs on gameday. According to the report, Belichick doesn’t know what happens with the pregame preparation for footballs and Brady doesn’t know what happens to them on gameday.

Read more at http://fanbuzz.com/story/report-new-england-may-not-have-deliberately-deflated-footballs-in-afc-championship-game/#UWHIEjVaQ1GGuCpe.99

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
41. I think it's more related to Spygate.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 11:53 PM
Feb 2015

That was substantial and won't be forgotten. Same owner and coach as they have now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_New_England_Patriots_videotaping_controversy

Or, perhaps related to the puritanical influence in New England, guilt about just enjoying something. So you have to get pissed off at others even after you've won.

Just celebrate the win, congratulate your opponents for bringing out the best in your team, and be done with it.

I've never seen so many fans still whining after their team won. It's hilarious.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
42. I bet
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 11:55 PM
Feb 2015

this story doesn't even get half the publicity the "deflategate" story did.

Nothing pisses off the haters more than finding out that the target of their hatred is innocent of wrongdoing.

In fact, I can imagine some of them persisting in their hatred even if a perpetrator came forward to confess and it turned out to be someone from another team who wanted revenge.


The whole cheating accusation is ridiculously stupid anyway. Cheating is supposed to help the cheater(s). It's hard to figure out the mental processes of people who say, "They didn't need to cheat" but they still believe the team cheated even though there is ZERO evidence of cheating, and there is ZERO evidence that "cheating" even helped them.

I'm just glad that the whole thing happened before the Superbowl and that the game balls were kept under strict supervision by an independent party.

If the integrity of the game balls is that damned important, they should have been kept under guard anyway in every single game. Hopefully this will be a new rule in future games.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
10. Seattle fans are going through their "Bill Buckner Moment"
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 08:21 PM
Feb 2015

We can relate to that awful feeling, so we should lighten up a bit.

I think the coolest story is that Butler, the un-drafted rookie, was making Popeye's Fried Chicken up to last April, and I don't suspect he will be going back there anytime soon.



Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
35. I was thrilled for Butler...and what a nice kid!
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 11:33 PM
Feb 2015

I was really impressed by his whole demeanor. He will never have to pay for a drink in New England again.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
36. After the last two weeks, I have to be honest and say...yup, it does!
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 11:36 PM
Feb 2015

It will take a couple days to get it out of our systems.

Love ya <3

Marrah

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,840 posts)
24. As I've come to better understand these past years how repub voters think of politics, I've...
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 09:37 PM
Feb 2015

...gotten to feel less comfortable about being too 'rah-rah' about my favorite sports teams.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
30. Butler showed some amazing hustle and determination.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 11:08 PM
Feb 2015

That's how you win football games. You don't chase the ball, you play where the ball is going to be.

Gretzky was like that in hockey. He played where the puck would be, not where it was.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
31. All the bitching in the world cannot take away the joy of that interception!
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 11:28 PM
Feb 2015

In fact, the more they bitch, the more I know we are doing something right.

Let them wail, gnash their teeth and rend their clothing....I'll just hold up 4 fingers and smile.

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