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NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 08:32 PM Feb 2015

Alright, ONE MORE TIME, it is NOT Democrat Party, it is DemocratIC Party

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_%28epithet%29




"Democrat Party" is a political epithet used in the United States for the Democratic Party. The term has been used in negative or hostile fashion by conservative commentators and members of the Republican Party in party platforms, partisan speeches and press releases since 1940.[1]


I just saw it used in a Huff Post article.

This is a big deal, I know many of you say it isnt.

It is.

PLEASE expose it and complain about it EVERY TIME you see it!
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Alright, ONE MORE TIME, it is NOT Democrat Party, it is DemocratIC Party (Original Post) NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 OP
Is it the Republic party? So it's not the Democrat party. It's the Democratic Party. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #1
You can spell it as the Republican Party or the Republic Party adieu Feb 2015 #21
How about the Koch Bros Party? Because that would be the most accurate. eom BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #28
It's the PUBLICAN Party OldRedneck Feb 2015 #32
Took me a minute... Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #63
Make sure to ask the writer or editor, "Why should we trust your facts or opinions, when you can't FSogol Feb 2015 #2
Exactly, but many in our party are sadly ignorant about that this is an issue and why NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #3
How about an inventory. Kalidurga Feb 2015 #4
And where did you see it on Huffington Post? . . . Journeyman Feb 2015 #5
... NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #7
Your complaint is with the phrase "Democrat-controlled Senate"? . . . Journeyman Feb 2015 #9
Thank you for asking lunasun Feb 2015 #16
Democratically controlled Senate is the way I have heard it said hundreds of times NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2015 #86
There's nothing wrong there that I saw. Individual party members are Democrats. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2015 #14
"..a rose By any other name would smell as sweet" Romeo and Juliet Act II Scene II Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #6
Sorry, a fat junkie on the radio decided that "Democrat" … 11 Bravo Feb 2015 #8
Yup. Him are the boss of the GOP media, too! freshwest Feb 2015 #10
It wuz Lee Atwater. He wanted to connote "rat" and "Democrat." n/t FSogol Feb 2015 #19
And they are arguing with me about it here, i guess I should stop being surprised NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #74
legal name of the party is Democratic party. a group is democrats, or in the singular, democrat. msongs Feb 2015 #11
It is a childish, cheap shot that they get off to everytime they get a rise out of one of us. Dustlawyer Feb 2015 #29
Chris Matthews is the ONLY one I hear correcting these assholes to their face. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2015 #89
The only people who don't understand that are Rethuglicans. eom rogerashton Feb 2015 #12
Sadly I'm come across a great number of Democrats who are ignorant Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2015 #90
that's what often gives the trolls away on here napkinz Feb 2015 #13
I do that, too. Not necessarily on DU, but whenever I see somebody attacking a Democrat, or TrollBuster9090 Feb 2015 #22
Or, they'll say bullshit like "both sides" do thus and so. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2015 #91
It's wise to let sleeping sheeple remain undisturbed Fumesucker Feb 2015 #107
Me too. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #56
New day, new rant, roughly as well thought out as the last one. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #15
+1 + Democrats do control the senate in Illinois .Not "Democratics' but whatever get enraged by my lunasun Feb 2015 #18
^^^this^^^ L0oniX Feb 2015 #31
... and that... OilemFirchen Feb 2015 #72
Well I am happy that I piss you off to the point where you keep track of what I post. L0oniX Feb 2015 #105
Pleased to be of service. (n/t) OilemFirchen Feb 2015 #109
That is the best you can do, sign on with someone else's insult LOL NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #75
Insult? Aww you were offended? You know where the alert button is. L0oniX Feb 2015 #106
"our side" Skittles Feb 2015 #33
You don't say Democrat Senator Reid, you say DemocratIC Senator Reid, and... George II Feb 2015 #38
If the phrase had omitted the word "controlled" you would be grammatically correct. Ms. Toad Feb 2015 #53
Wasting your time...Certain people on DU are not here for the same reason we are. NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #76
Reactionary indeed! Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #43
How is insisting on our party being called by its name "TRIANGULATION" & "WEDGE POLITICS"? SunSeeker Feb 2015 #54
Cosmic follows me around and attacks me for believing both parties are NOT the same NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #77
Oy. And they say YOU waste your time over stupid stuff. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #82
puleeez...no one has a "stalker" :~/ Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #87
I see you are blind to irony. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #92
Replying to posters isn't *stalking* Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #93
No thanks. I don't need your company. nt. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #96
awww now I has a sad :~( Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #98
I find NoJusticeNoPeace's passion refreshing. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #57
Passion is quite useful. For a reason worthy of the passion. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #61
Do you think referring to the Democratic Party as the "Democrat Party" is correct? SunSeeker Feb 2015 #67
THanks, but Democratically Controlled Senate is the way I heard it referred NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #79
I agree. Even Boehner uses the term "Democratic Senate leadership." SunSeeker Feb 2015 #81
+1000. I've yet to see NJNP post anything worthwhile. DesMoinesDem Feb 2015 #83
hmmm? Think we're getting punked? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #88
Yes I find it very offensive and they jimlup Feb 2015 #17
Wow! It looks like it's working!! pocoloco Feb 2015 #37
Right!?! Word hurt intellectuals apparently? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #46
Yeah - you are probably right... jimlup Feb 2015 #48
I completely agree ybbor Feb 2015 #20
I agree with you whole heartedly. Mira Feb 2015 #23
Rhymes? GummyBearz Feb 2015 #30
So you think it's OK and I Mira Feb 2015 #55
They think it shows disdain missmo1951 Feb 2015 #24
CORRECT Skittles Feb 2015 #59
Usually the ones who say it are reCons.. trying to trash the Dems in their stupid way or cons posing Cha Feb 2015 #25
Just about ALL republic congressmen and senators use that term. George II Feb 2015 #36
They get a twisted sense... Whiskeytide Feb 2015 #26
That irks me more than I can express. madashelltoo Feb 2015 #27
I smile and say very nicely "you mean the Democratic Party, don't you? mountain grammy Feb 2015 #34
I HATE that - it was resurrected by Joseph McCarthy, which says it all..... George II Feb 2015 #35
Ron Christie tried it and he called him out directly ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2015 #39
Yes, that really irritates Chris Matthews about as much as it irritates all of us, and he.... George II Feb 2015 #42
I've been Lean Feb 2015 #40
Another link, from NPR, discussing McCarthy's use of the term: George II Feb 2015 #41
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! calimary Feb 2015 #44
Even GOP leaders like McConnell and Boehner who KNOW our party's name still do it. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #45
But aren't we called "Democrats" and not "Democratics?" kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #47
We're called the Democratic Party. Not the Democrat Party. That is the OP's point. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #52
Anyone inclined to call the other side the "Republic" party? bhikkhu Feb 2015 #49
Not everything pipi_k Feb 2015 #50
1. It really isn't a big deal. Ms. Toad Feb 2015 #51
Agreed, but also... hvn_nbr_2 Feb 2015 #58
If they use "Democrat party".... Bigmack Feb 2015 #60
Democrat, Democrat, Democrat ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #62
I belong to the DemocraTIC party, I am a Democrat, I vote the DemocraTIC ticket Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #64
Language usage pipi_k Feb 2015 #66
Your message is, briefly : yes it matters, but no it doesn't matter enough to become disagreable Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #80
I understand now. OilemFirchen Feb 2015 #97
I'm glad you've got your priorities straight. nt LWolf Feb 2015 #65
It doesn't bother me, it ranks somewhere near the bottom of things to get upset about dissentient Feb 2015 #68
"If you continue using Democrat Party instead of Democratic Party, may all your old English....... LongTomH Feb 2015 #69
Added to my protest to-do list Capt. Obvious Feb 2015 #70
My republican dad insists on using this term when speaking about the SalviaBlue Feb 2015 #71
Meh. This is very close HappyMe Feb 2015 #78
But 'this is a big deal'. It should be first on your list! DesMoinesDem Feb 2015 #84
lol! HappyMe Feb 2015 #85
I only hear Republic0ns refer to it as the "Democrat" party. Stellar Feb 2015 #94
THanks NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #95
What are things I can't really get too upset about for $200, Alex. bigwillq Feb 2015 #99
Thanks for caring enough to respond to tell me what I care about isnt important... NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #100
Never said it's not important. bigwillq Feb 2015 #101
You care so much t that you are now posting twice.. it IS NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #102
That's the point of a DISCUSSION board. bigwillq Feb 2015 #104
It's to the level of deliberately mispronouncing someone's name every time you address them Fumesucker Feb 2015 #108
I don't disagree with you. bigwillq Feb 2015 #111
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Feb 2015 #103
My family calls it the "Democrat" Party, Jamaal510 Feb 2015 #110
 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
21. You can spell it as the Republican Party or the Republic Party
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:35 PM
Feb 2015

but I always pronounce it as the "ASSHOLES" party.

FSogol

(45,487 posts)
2. Make sure to ask the writer or editor, "Why should we trust your facts or opinions, when you can't
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 08:36 PM
Feb 2015

even get the name of one of the two major political parties in this country correct?"

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
4. How about an inventory.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 08:42 PM
Feb 2015

The Republic Party has:

a lack of reasonable positions in fact most of their positions are designed to hurt people rather than help.

they have no logical reason for these positions.

they applaud at the idea people can die because they can't pay for medical care.

they oppose nearly if not all civil rights issues.

and they believe wage slavery is a good thing even if it means a lot of people go hungry at least once or twice a month and that these same people are always stressed about being less than a pay check away from eviction.

I am a bit more worried about that. Because the insults are just designed to distract us from the fact that beneath those insults are some very ugly people ugly to their cores.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
7. ...
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 08:49 PM
Feb 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10491524

read the excerpt from huff post


Unless those arent excerpts but are the commentary of the OP, which would still be bad but not the same I guess.

NO, it is from the linked article

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
73. Democratically controlled Senate is the way I have heard it said hundreds of times
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 03:04 PM
Feb 2015

or house...

Only the recent fad of creating this as an issue has it changed.

It has been done to INSULT your party, i mean you ARE a Democrat, right?

I dont think in the thousands and thousands of hours of political radio, tv, or for that matter movies and fiction, have I heard

Democrat Controlled House

always

Democratically Controlled House or Democratically controlled Senate

always

Until recently, although this INTENTIONAL INSULT isnt new.

Even if this person at Huff Post did it grammatically correct and meant no harm, my point is valid and on a board that

IS SUPPOSE TO BE ONLY DEMOCRATS, one wouldnt expect some of the responses I have seen.....

Maybe the worst reaction I would expect to see on a BOARD DEDICATED TO DEMOCRATS, would be: "Hey, you know in that specific case, even though it is always said the way you are saying it, the way it was written there is grammatically correct, but I get your point"

That is what I would expect from a Democrat.

Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #73)

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
6. "..a rose By any other name would smell as sweet" Romeo and Juliet Act II Scene II
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 08:47 PM
Feb 2015

Although I don't of any political party that smells as sweet as a rose.

msongs

(67,407 posts)
11. legal name of the party is Democratic party. a group is democrats, or in the singular, democrat.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:06 PM
Feb 2015

democrat- controlled is correct when referring to people and not the party. Who formerly controlled the senate? = democrats, not democratics. It is incorrect to say Democrat Party when referring to the party

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
29. It is a childish, cheap shot that they get off to everytime they get a rise out of one of us.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:21 PM
Feb 2015

You can either not rise to the bait, or you can call them on it by educating them (correcting them) with what msongs says above!

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
89. Chris Matthews is the ONLY one I hear correcting these assholes to their face.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 06:32 PM
Feb 2015

No one else does it. Rachel just sits there and laughs that stupid silly laugh which gets on my nerves. As much as I dislike Matthews, he's the only one on our side that never allows them to get away with it.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
90. Sadly I'm come across a great number of Democrats who are ignorant
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 06:33 PM
Feb 2015

of this issue as well. And yes, some of them are right here on DU, too.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
13. that's what often gives the trolls away on here
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:09 PM
Feb 2015

every time I see someone post "Democrat Party" I feel like shouting, "We've got one!"




TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
22. I do that, too. Not necessarily on DU, but whenever I see somebody attacking a Democrat, or
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:42 PM
Feb 2015

or a liberal policy as not being liberal enough; and they use the term Democrat Party, I say "GOT-CHA." I do the same thing when somebody who claims to be a progressive, and then uses the term SHEEPLE. Nice try.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
91. Or, they'll say bullshit like "both sides" do thus and so.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 06:35 PM
Feb 2015

That's when I know they're full of shit! Or, when they claim to be an Independent, but never attack the ReThugs for anything, always going after Democrats for everything.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
15. New day, new rant, roughly as well thought out as the last one.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:12 PM
Feb 2015

It isn't a big deal. You don't say Senator Reid Democratic, Nevada. You say Senator Reid, Democrat, Nevada. You don't say President Obama is a Democratic. You say President Obama is a Democrat. This isn't an epitaph.

Oh, and the reference to the ill conceived rant from yesterday? http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026197580

You're passionate, I'll give you credit on that. However, you are also rather reactionary about these things. That doesn't do our side the good you imagine it does.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
18. +1 + Democrats do control the senate in Illinois .Not "Democratics' but whatever get enraged by my
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:25 PM
Feb 2015

post if you want to follow along... after all there is tomorrow
See what delight it brings

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
72. ... and that...
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:20 PM
Feb 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026124450#post82

Star Member L0oniX (26,965 posts)

82. ...and anyone who votes for $$$ owned politicians is a traitor to the Democrat party.
 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
105. Well I am happy that I piss you off to the point where you keep track of what I post.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 09:25 PM
Feb 2015

It's good to have hopes dreams and goals.

Let me know if you ever give a fuck about fair campaign financing. Until then enjoy your oligarchy.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
75. That is the best you can do, sign on with someone else's insult LOL
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 03:07 PM
Feb 2015

When I am being attacked for defending liberalism or the Democratic Party, I know I am doing something right.

George II

(67,782 posts)
38. You don't say Democrat Senator Reid, you say DemocratIC Senator Reid, and...
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:09 PM
Feb 2015

...you say Obama is a DemocratIC President.

Ms. Toad

(34,073 posts)
53. If the phrase had omitted the word "controlled" you would be grammatically correct.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:47 PM
Feb 2015

Democratic Senate (as opposed to Democrat-controlled Senate)

Democratic Senator Reid is correct - because "Senator Reid" is a noun phrase. President is a noun. Senate is a noun. Adjectives modify or describe nouns.

Control is a verb. Adjectives don't modify verbs. So when the phrase is {blank}-controlled Senate, what goes in the {blank} is NOT an adjective.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
76. Wasting your time...Certain people on DU are not here for the same reason we are.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 03:08 PM
Feb 2015

When they start following me around, I know I am on the right track.


Stay vigilant!

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
43. Reactionary indeed!
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:17 PM
Feb 2015

These sorts of reactionary responses hurt
the *democrats* as much as single issue voting!

It's no wonder the *big tent* has such
a poor following at election time...
TRIANGULATION and WEDGE POLITICS
are destroying the DEMOCRATS.

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
54. How is insisting on our party being called by its name "TRIANGULATION" & "WEDGE POLITICS"?
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:58 PM
Feb 2015

It is the GOP who specializes in single issue voting such as anti-abortion and anti-same sex marriage as a way to pry the social conservatives away from the Dems.

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
82. Oy. And they say YOU waste your time over stupid stuff.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:47 PM
Feb 2015


On the other hand, getting a stalker on DU is sort of a badge of honor.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
87. puleeez...no one has a "stalker" :~/
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 05:55 PM
Feb 2015

The OP created a thread to whine about
a perceived slight offered by right-wingers.
Using *democrat* is nothing more than a childish attempt
at an insult...nothing worthy of democrat(ic) outrage.
The issue comes off as pout-rage

As to wedge issues and triangulation,
whenever Democrats evoke or respond
to the right-wing culture war it hurts the party.

Culture war issues play into the right-wing frames
and narratives. It's giving right-wingers a home field advantage.
It mobilizes their voters and motivates campaign donations.

When a democratic candidate runs on the platforms
that galvanize right-wing voters it hurts the party
by alienating voters who should/would vote for Democrats.

Why do you suspect working-class republicans
vote against their self interests?

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
93. Replying to posters isn't *stalking*
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 06:58 PM
Feb 2015

...but if you need a hand to hold
I'll hang with you


What's your opinion of *poutrage*?
for it or against it?

BTW, what is this *irony* you speak of

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
57. I find NoJusticeNoPeace's passion refreshing.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:12 AM
Feb 2015

I trust his arguments will get more polished. Your disdain just drips with hate, as if you were talking about a GOP nut bag instead of a fellow DUer.

His OP is accurate, he just gives a bad example via the Huffpo link. You could have just pointed out the inaccurate example and suggested a better one, but no, you had to insult and belittle his feelings. THAT is what is not helping "our side."

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
61. Passion is quite useful. For a reason worthy of the passion.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 06:55 AM
Feb 2015

I am passionate about many things. Civil Rights as a single example of many. To a certain extent, I am interested in the use of language. I am not passionate about the time of day. I am not passionate about the weather. Nor am I passionate about the type of wood used in the chair that I sit in.

I reject your assertion that I am filled with hatred. In the link I provided, if you had followed it, he began with a flawed example. I disproved his assertion, politely, with references. I am human, and I make mistakes. I have sometimes believed things that were incorrect. The location of things for example. When shown that I was wrong, I have several choices about how I can respond. I can admit my error, correct the knowledge in my mind, and move forward wiser. I can deny the information, pretend the truth doesn't exist, and move from ignorant to idiotic. Or I can throw nonsense out that has nothing to do about what I was proven wrong about, which is juvenile. NJNP picked the last of the options. Through that thread, NJNP dismissed arguments that did not agree with their own as privileged white liberal beliefs.

I do not hate NJNP. I respect passion, directed towards a useful goal. An individual who is passionate about the time of day using my example above, is something to be worried about. Deciding the use of language that everyone can use takes authority over the issue unto oneself. The webpage for the DNC is democrats.org not democratic.org. I can easily find a thousand references where Democrats refer to themselves as a Democrat. So self appointed authority arrogantly thrown about coupled with misdirected passion is worthy of a certain amount of scorn, especially on the heels of the ill conceived assertions from the day before.

If you tell me that I must use the language in a way that you determine to be proper, and only in that way or else I am guilty of committing some great sin, I will eschew such an argument without malice.

My intent, and I believe I succeeded, was to speak to NJNP as a wiser (on this subject as well as the one before but certainly not arrogant enough to believe myself wiser on every subject) individual who was enlightening the passionate, but ill informed without malice.

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
67. Do you think referring to the Democratic Party as the "Democrat Party" is correct?
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:56 PM
Feb 2015

You have yet to address what the OP actually said.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
79. THanks, but Democratically Controlled Senate is the way I heard it referred
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 03:17 PM
Feb 2015

to hundreds of times outside of this new fad, or this recent renewal of this fad.

If it is a bad example, then so be it.

But as you said yourself, weird that on a board that ONLY DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUPPORTERS are suppose to be posting, there are people picking me apart over this.

Not weird actually, I have figured out why.

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
83. +1000. I've yet to see NJNP post anything worthwhile.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:53 PM
Feb 2015

I would be surprised if NJNP wasn't a RW troll trying to make Democrats look stupid.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
17. Yes I find it very offensive and they
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:24 PM
Feb 2015

fucking know it. They enjoy it. They are such motherfucking baby hypocrites it can't be described in words. And I'm not exaggerating. I do wonder what drives these people. Are they that fucking mean to their core?

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
46. Right!?! Word hurt intellectuals apparently?
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:23 PM
Feb 2015

I can only believe it's FAUX OUTRAGE?
Adults couldn't possibly be so upset about
*PERCEIVED* schoolyard name calling?????

RATS? democRATS?? really ?
Repuglican? rethuglican? repukelican?
But democRATS!!!!111!!!!!1! arrgahhhhh!!1!1!!

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
48. Yeah - you are probably right...
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:30 PM
Feb 2015

a cold shower might help me. I've been arguing with a gang of right-wing trolls on another site so that might be part of the anger in my typing...

But in all seriousness, I hate them to the core of my soul. I really do... and at least I can express that here.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
23. I agree with you whole heartedly.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:52 PM
Feb 2015

It is a put down. Comes from that it rhymes with "rat"
I detest it, and never ever let it go unchallenged.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
30. Rhymes?
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:25 PM
Feb 2015

Democrat rhymes with rat

about as much as english rhymes with sh

There's plenty of stuff to be mad about, but I don't see why this is one

-a proud democrat

Mira

(22,380 posts)
55. So you think it's OK and I
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:08 AM
Feb 2015

absolutely don't.
They would not in talking point fashion all do it - and we collectively (see the thread) don't like it. Each time I hear it I feel slapped, and it is my right to feel however I do, and naturally so can you.

Cha

(297,251 posts)
25. Usually the ones who say it are reCons.. trying to trash the Dems in their stupid way or cons posing
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:59 PM
Feb 2015

as Dems online and they slip up 'cause they don't know any better.

My experience anyway.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
26. They get a twisted sense...
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:04 PM
Feb 2015

...satisfaction when using it upsets a democrat. That's why they do it. 4 year olds. I quit giving them that satisfaction years ago. I just note who uses it. No sense taking the bell off the cat.

mountain grammy

(26,622 posts)
34. I smile and say very nicely "you mean the Democratic Party, don't you?
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:59 PM
Feb 2015

I am a Democrat, a member of the Democratic Party."

George II

(67,782 posts)
35. I HATE that - it was resurrected by Joseph McCarthy, which says it all.....
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:06 PM
Feb 2015

....and to the poster below me (above me?), I've been calling THAT party the "republic party" for years.

Chris Matthews a couple of years ago ran all over Darryl Issa on his show because he kept referring to is at the "Democrat" Party.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
39. Ron Christie tried it and he called him out directly
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:10 PM
Feb 2015

Christie of course just gave that smug indignant look.

George II

(67,782 posts)
42. Yes, that really irritates Chris Matthews about as much as it irritates all of us, and he....
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:17 PM
Feb 2015

....points it out any chance he gets.

It's rude, but my wife and I call Ron Christie the "opti-grab" guy.

 

Lean

(39 posts)
40. I've been
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:11 PM
Feb 2015

calling people out on this for years. It's also incorrect English. It shows their pettiness and ignorance.

George II

(67,782 posts)
41. Another link, from NPR, discussing McCarthy's use of the term:
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:16 PM
Feb 2015
http://www.npr.org/blogs/ombudsman/2010/03/since_when_did_it_become_the_d.html

The real sting in the use of Democrat as an adjective goes back to the virulent anti-Communist Wisconsin Republican, Sen. Joseph McCarthy.

"Back in the 1950s, Joe McCarthy and his entourage began using Democrat Party and explaining by way of saying they didn't think the Dems really represented democratic ideas, etc. and should not be allowed to call themselves democratic," said Elving. "Most news organizations quoted his usage but did not adopt it."

calimary

(81,281 posts)
44. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:17 PM
Feb 2015

I do complain about it every time I hear it or see it. It's been allowed to metastasize because NOBODY is challenging it or checking it or disputing it. NOT EVER.

I think WE should be the ones who decide what our party is called. And as long as the enemy thinks it's THEIR privilege, WE need to do the ol' "taste of their own medicine, see how they like it" remedy. If they think they can decide what our party's name is, then I shall feel free to decide what THEIR party is called. And I won't be nice about it, either.

Which is why I never call them anything but the republi-CON party. Cuz all they offer is a CON job. And if they don't like it, and if they want me to stop, I shall - when, and ONLY when they stop getting my party's name wrong. Because I know they do it deliberately. This is VERY bad behavior that needs to be checked, and corrected, at EVERY turn.

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
45. Even GOP leaders like McConnell and Boehner who KNOW our party's name still do it.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:22 PM
Feb 2015

They do it to prove their conservative bona fides. Just like we know a poster who calls us the "Democrat Party" is a troll, Boehner and McConnell's base would think they had "turned liberal" if they started calling us by our actual name. Hearing them call us the DemocRAT Party (the emphasis is always on the "rat" because they're oh so cleverly calling us rats) gives the base joy. It is the Beevis and Butthead-ization of the GOP.

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
52. We're called the Democratic Party. Not the Democrat Party. That is the OP's point.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:40 PM
Feb 2015

The OP is not saying you shouldn't say, when referring to specific individuals, that he or she is a "Democrat." However, he could have picked a better example of his point, such as how Speaker of the House Boehner, not just some idiot troll, repeatedly calls our party the Democrat Party. That Huffpo article the OP cites is apparently referring to individuals, not the name of our party. But the OP's point is otherwise clear and correct. References to the "Democrat Party" is a gratuitous insult.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
49. Anyone inclined to call the other side the "Republic" party?
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:33 PM
Feb 2015

...petty little jabs from them, but it would be nice to give one back.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
50. Not everything
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:37 PM
Feb 2015

is a big deal

This is a big deal, I know many of you say it isnt.

It is.

PLEASE expose it and complain about it EVERY TIME you see it!



Maybe it's a big deal for you, but it isn't for me.

Oddly enough, I have other things in my life to be upset over.

And yeah, they're a big deal for me. So forgive me if I just can't make the effort to get all outraged over this.


Oh, and if you don't want "RepubliCONS" and "ReTHUGlicans" to keep using it, maybe it would be a good idea to stop giving them the satisfaction of seeing how much it upsets you.

Ms. Toad

(34,073 posts)
51. 1. It really isn't a big deal.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:39 PM
Feb 2015

2. Even if it is a big deal, in this case you're wrong. (Huff Po), is correct. Your "correction" is not.

Democrat - noun
Democratic - adjective


The day after that showing of disapproval with the governor's minimum wage plan, the Democrat-controlled Senate passed a minimum wage increase bill which would raise the state's minimum wage to $9 by the middle of the year and $11 over four years.


Democrat-controlled Senate is correct. Democrat is being used as a noun, not an adjective, in the preceding sentence.

If they had inserted "party" in the sentence (Democratic Party controlled Senate), you would be grammatically correct. In that case, Democratic is the adjective which modifies the noun Party by telling which kind of party. The party controls the Senate. Which party? The Democratic party.


Either way, still not a big deal. Yes the Republicans are yanking our chain, because they have learned that there some of us who get disproportionately angry about it and it is fun to make us angry. But I grew up in a rural area, where 7th grade grammar didn't always stick, assuming folks actually made it out of the 7th grade. Most of my teachers in grades K-6 hadn't gone to school beyond high school. Tons of very loyal Democrats (Note: it is a noun here, see how that works?) referred to the party as the Democrat party. Not grammatically correct. But nothing nefarious about it - that's just how they spoke. They also made a number of other grammar errors, as well. I don't see any reason to jump down their throat about those grammar errors, either.

Stop letting them yank your chain. And if you're going to let them yank your chain, at least be sure you're right when you go postal about it.
 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
60. If they use "Democrat party"....
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:09 AM
Feb 2015

... that frees me to use the term "TeaPublican".

Actually, that fits their party pretty well.

Pooka Fey

(3,496 posts)
64. I belong to the DemocraTIC party, I am a Democrat, I vote the DemocraTIC ticket
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 09:39 AM
Feb 2015

(Sighhhhhh)

Keep up the good work, NoJusticeNoPeace.

Disdain for correct language usage, and contempt for the education which teaches correct language usage are RW neo-liberal values. It's shocking to see some DUers claiming this doesn't matter.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
66. Language usage
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:18 PM
Feb 2015

does matter.

But getting as frothed up about it as the OP did, wow.


I would say that anyone in this thread getting that pissed off about two letters added to, or subtracted from, a word really should get on their knees and give thanks for their good fortune.

Only in a First World country would people give this much attention to a word.

I wonder how many millions of people in other countries would love to have the same luxury we Americans have to be shocked (SHOCKED, I TELL YOU!!!) over one stinking word.



Pooka Fey

(3,496 posts)
80. Your message is, briefly : yes it matters, but no it doesn't matter enough to become disagreable
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 03:51 PM
Feb 2015

If you don't defend something, it means that it doesn't matter to you. We don't all have to agree on how best to express our displeasure.

And I don't really care what anyone in another country thinks about me or how I defend proper English usage. Everyone carries their own burdens, including those living in the 1st World. I show my gratitude to the universe for the benefit of my free education by defending the values of a free education and a liberal arts education, to boot.

Why do you assume that 3rd Worlders, who normally don't shit on their own family members because they need to stick together to survive, have it worse than me? Many 3rd Worlders have wised up to scam that is modern capitalist industrial society.

Check out the IKEA advertisement, "How do people start the day in the World's Cities" and see how in India, a household is Grandparents, Parents, and Kids all living in one household, all smiling and all watching out for each other. In London, a household is a group of about 5-6 roommates who probably all come and go at random like the 4 winds. Which is a stronger bond?

Wealth is more than money or things like a mortgage and a credit card bill - it's ties, friends, family, a job, security, community, access to culture and free or low cost education, access to free or low cost health care, access to clean non GMO food, clean water (Detroit doesn't have this), access to employment which pays a living wage (Americans don't have this). By what measure are the 99%er Americans "wealthy"? The guilt trip doesn't work on me. No hard feelings.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
97. I understand now.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:10 PM
Feb 2015

It's just about "two letters". When I was growing up I felt uncomfortable being called "that Jew kid Oilem" instead of "that Jewish kid Oilem".

But that's three letters. No wonder it hurt.

 

dissentient

(861 posts)
68. It doesn't bother me, it ranks somewhere near the bottom of things to get upset about
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:09 PM
Feb 2015

This is common though, some people think that whatever upsets them or whatever they think is an important issue, everyone else has to think the same.

No they don't. Just because you think something is important or you have a pet issue that you get all excited about, doesn't mean everyone else has to agree with you and think the same way as you.

Not at all. Individuals can think very differently than others on all sorts of topics. It's wonderful, this freedom.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
69. "If you continue using Democrat Party instead of Democratic Party, may all your old English.......
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:06 PM
Feb 2015

.......teachers rise from their graves with steel rulers in their rotting fists, and descend on you to beat your knuckles bloody before they feast on your putrid Republican brain."

"Democratic is the adjective. democrat is a noun.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
70. Added to my protest to-do list
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:11 PM
Feb 2015

68. Convince people that Big Bang Theory is not funny
69. Convince people to start calling pickles, pickled cucumbers
70. Convince people to start using Democratic instead of Democrat even when inappropriate.

SalviaBlue

(2,917 posts)
71. My republican dad insists on using this term when speaking about the
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:12 PM
Feb 2015

Democratic Party. I explained that it was derogatory and grammatically incorrect and he said "I can use whatever term I want." So, I said I would henceforth refer to the Republican Party as the Asshole Party.

I think he got the point.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
78. Meh. This is very close
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 03:14 PM
Feb 2015

to the bottom of my 'get all upset' list.








Okay, it's probably dead last on the list.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
85. lol!
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 05:00 PM
Feb 2015


Yeah. I suppose I could move it up 1 slot to 2nd to the last on the list. But that would knock my concern over missing socks after doing laundry to dead last. I don't know what to do here.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
94. I only hear Republic0ns refer to it as the "Democrat" party.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:02 PM
Feb 2015
I just saw it used in a Huff Post article.

This is a big deal, I know many of you say it isnt.

It is.

PLEASE expose it and complain about it EVERY TIME you see it!


And I agree with you!
 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
99. What are things I can't really get too upset about for $200, Alex.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:26 PM
Feb 2015



Yes, I understand "Democratic" is the proper word usage, but I really can't get too upset when someone uses that word, or any other word, wrong.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
102. You care so much t that you are now posting twice.. it IS
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:45 PM
Feb 2015

important to MANY Democratic supporters who want to stop very bad people from taking over our government.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
104. That's the point of a DISCUSSION board.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:05 PM
Feb 2015

Someone posts something and folks respond. Sometimes they agree with what is posted, other times they won't.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
108. It's to the level of deliberately mispronouncing someone's name every time you address them
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 09:56 PM
Feb 2015

Just because you know it annoys them.

I left that behavior behind in elementary school I thought.

Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Original post)

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
110. My family calls it the "Democrat" Party,
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 12:25 AM
Feb 2015

but I don't think they know or care that much about what the proper term is. They're all staunch Dems.
When I hear RWers like Limbaugh use that term, though, it's as if they're intentionally leaving out the principle of our party prioritizing the common man.

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